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I'll try and help....Really, it all depends on how strong each is. Has the student surpassed the master mentally, emotionally, physically, or at least in one of those areas is she stronger? Or is the master at this point in time still stronger? The student cannot surpass any master until they've learned all the master learns. Even then, the master still is the master because they have controlled everything longer, so if the student wanted to be stronger, they'd have to have something on the master, something the master doesn't know, they have to know everything the master does and extra. Either that or they're just cool enough to take him down which has been used a lot in stories...
Could you explain this part of it..? If what I am asking for makes any sense. :P
I agree with what Dawn (I don't know how to make all that characters, lol) said, those are interesting questions.. I'd add one more - does it have to be like a fierce competition, or it can flow slowly?
Ah, I think you two will be a terrific help with my problem! Thank you so much!! I'll explain.The main character is very frightful and nervous. She has not serpassed her master, in any area, but she does have some improvise in her actions in battle. She is inventive. Plus, her weakness is her strength as well. The heavier the emotions she has, the more her powers grow. The master does go easy on her, but is the jealous type, so she will not want to lose no matter what.
And for the last question, it would be best to let the battle flow slowly as there are a lot of emotions in the fight as well (for the mc) And it would work better with the rest of the book :)
Wait a moment, I forgot to ask, lol - the master is a she? I must admit I imagined it was a guy, and thought maybe of a scene in which they're dancing (like a couple) and he slowly enchants her with the music and maybe singing (I don't know can they make music as if they hit the play button on some player, just to make it flow in the air around them?).. and there I think you should put her emotions somehow to be triggered by the notes (or even words, if there are any), and than she starts to sing/dance her own thing, as the music turns from his to her notes.. if you get what I mean, since I kinda imagine it like in a movie, lol.
Is there involved some instrument or everything is done by their voices (or sound of their footsteps or such)?
If the master is a woman too, perhaps the couple-like dancing is not the best idea, but I think you should still make that overtaking gentle, as if she's manipulating her master with her own music and is making it all turn out good for her slowly yet effective (this sounds like a commercial), and so the music itself continues to flow easily around them, just now as mc's 'weapon' instead of her master's. If that makes any sense.
Though I just realized I didn't involve the shouting part in my 'vision' :/
Ohh that are some nice ideas! Thanks, I'm having a new picture in my mind for the scene already :P The master is a she, and specialises in dancing, though she could use an instrument which would be easy to use while dancing. They can't make music like with a push of a button and music starts playing, but they need to sing or play an instrument. I like the idea of the words triggering emotions in her, I have been using it before in the book, but I might use another angle on it :P
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Really I read the last part, and I think it is brilliant!! I'm defenitly going to use that!! I can always change the screaning or just but it somewhere else (another fight, she fights different people after her master with different powers :P) But there are a lot of things in here which I can use!!
Another question, how has the fight started?Have they both entered into it knowingly a bit like Morpheus and Neo in The Matrix when they're fighting in the dojo or has the master (or even the trainee) surprised the other into the fight?
It is a battle to show her master what she has learned, some sort of an exam. She doesn't have to win the battle, she just needs to prove that she masters the basics of her powers.
You say our powers are that of the voice, the instruments, of the written word and drawn lines, our powers are those of our dancing forms so does this mean that art and words are a form of attack too? Just trying to get a better feel of your world.
Ahh, good question :) What you think is true, their voices and music are a means of attacking. Per example, I have one person who can make anything come to life which she draws. Another can mesmerize the victim by the paterns of her dances. Another has such a enticing voice that she can make people do as she pleases. These are the kinds of powers I had thought of for some of the characters.
Oh my complicatedness.................. So, what was it exactly that you needed help with on this? It's spinning around, and I'm just a tad confused. ;D
Haha, I was looking for some tips and other people's views on the scene, but I have actually already been helped with this and was thinking of deleting the discussion from the forum :p
Well I know you said you were deleting but wanted to put some thoughts down. Regardless of taught skill each person will have a kinship with one particular expression..their heart song (to steal from happy feet). A strong singer could use words or vocal melody to bring down an opponent. A natural dancer reacts to tempo and melody more than words - unless they are doing visual representations of words. It is an unusual story arc; to use something people generally use for comfort and free expression as a method of war. I'm glad you've worked things out for yourself.
Write the scene from one character's point of view only. Same could be said for huge battle scenes. Also, I recommend you don't attempt to put all those complexities in a single battle scene (emotions, powers, etc). It might work better if you concentrate on maybe one emotional response and one or two powers. I'm guessing in a longer work you can introduce other emotional elements, powers and so on later. Hold something back, in other words.- focus on Alice wrote: "Alright I have a question relating a story that I am writing right now, and I'll have a explain some things before I can ask :P ..
In this scene of the story the main character has to fight her m..."


In this scene of the story the main character has to fight her mentor. They have special powers, but they are less common than you are used to. I'll copy a short explanation from the story:
'As a muse we thrive in creational energies. We are the creatures of music, of art, and of dance. Our powers are that of the voice, the instruments, of the written word and drawn lines, our powers are those of our dancing forms.' So they can manipulate their opponants with their voice, confuse with their dance, and attack or defend (creating sound barriers) also with their voice, but instead of singing or humming, they shout. Something like that. Let me know if it's not clear.
Now in the scene she is fighting her master; but how would you imagine a fight like that? I have a start, but have a hard time thinking of how one of then overtakes the other... Any ideas?