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Have avoided graphics nearly as rigorously as I've shunned sci-fi/fantasy/magical realism and so on -- but I do own one graphic novel -- a volume of Proust. My daughters urge Maus and others, many of those which you have referenced in podcast/blog or here. I just haven't actually decided to dive in. Since I own the Proust and it would be a nice refreshment of the work which I have read and loved, it seems logical to start with that one. I am slowly adding resolutions to the year's reading plan, it seems. I'm going to check out the book and call it to my librarian daughter's attention as she is a fan of graphics. Keeping up with one's adult offspring can be a challenge in itself, by the way.
Hi Michael, I read two of the Persopolis books last year and really loved them. I would like to try some more so I will check out your group.
I've thumbed through a few very popular graphic novels in the bookstore and just couldn't see myself reading one. They're not linear enough for me and the graphics are very distracting. I think I'm just the wrong generation for them.
Sandi,
I had exactly the same sentiments when Michael wanted me to read a graphic novel. I read 3, and after just a few pages of Persepolis, all of my prior thoughts were proven wrong. I would strongly recommend starting with Persepolis, and you may find yourself a fan of the form, as I have no become.
I had exactly the same sentiments when Michael wanted me to read a graphic novel. I read 3, and after just a few pages of Persepolis, all of my prior thoughts were proven wrong. I would strongly recommend starting with Persepolis, and you may find yourself a fan of the form, as I have no become.
I agree with Ann; graphic novels are really just another way of telling a story, not a "genre" like many people assume. While there are plenty of superhero and sci-fi stories, there are examples from every genre in fiction and non-fiction - from heartbreaking memoirs to romantic fiction. Like many types of books, I'm confident there aren't many people that wouldn't like graphic novels as a whole - just a lot who haven't found the right one yet. Sandi and Dottie, hopefully you'll swing by the 500 Essential Graphic Novels group and check out the discussions we're having about the books. You never know, you might find a new favorite somewhere among those 500 titles!
Ann wrote: "Sandi,I had exactly the same sentiments when Michael wanted me to read a graphic novel. I read 3, and after just a few pages of Persepolis, all of my prior thoughts were proven wrong. I would stro..."
I'll add that one to my to-read list. Do you have a link? I don't seem to be finding it with a search on "Persepolis".
Persepolis 1 The Story of a ChildhoodPersepolis 2 The Story of a ReturnThere it is in two parts.
Or here it is The Complete Persepolis in an all-in-one volume.
And I'd never seen this -- Persepolis, tome 3 -- a third volume? But there it is.
OH! I saw those, I didn't see anything that indicated that they were graphic novels. Then again, I didn't look too close. The omnibus is going on my to-read list.
Yeah, it's kind of buried in the description that these are graphics. Not surprising you didn't connect them.If these aren't in my shelves, i'll have to add them. My daughters have been urging me to read both Maus and Persepolis from day one and I've not done so yet. I have pulled the one and only graphic I own from the shelf and put it on the currently reading shelf -- that's my progress so far.
I am very much enjoying the graphic of Proust based on the Combray section of his work. I will likely go back and examine each picture minutely for the details but thus far I'm finding them very evocative of the Proust book and even in the case of one large illustration on pgs.16, 17 taking me back to the place itself. I am not so certain that the text which was used is enough in some places or evokes the meaning which I took from reading the original but it is close enough for the most part that so far I will not register this as a complaint.I think I'm cheating in beginning with this book in that I have read the book upon which it is based. Better measure would have been to read a graphic which was written as such originally. That will be my next step.
Fantastic idea, Michael. I've only ever read "super-hero" graphic novels and love the idea of branching out. Plus, this list of 500 will give my wife a never-ending supply of gift ideas. See you at the new group.
I had the book Fun Home on my reading list, and upon checking the catalog at my local library I was very disappointed to see it was located in the graphic novel section. I sighed, but decided to give it a go and read something I wouldn't normally pick up. I was quite surprised by how much I loved the book - I read the entire thing in one night with a booklight this past summer (husband snoozing next to me - perks of teaching!)I loved the style of this memoir with its darkness and sarcasm and pain. I just started listening to the Podcast from the beginning and I am going to read the ones mentioned -Persepolis 1/2, Pride of Baghdad, and Cancer Vixen. Thanks for the recommendations!
Yay, Stephanie! I have about 50 pages of Fun Home left, and am saving it as a reward (in the middle of sales conference reading of manuscripts).
Stephanie wrote: "I had the book Fun Home on my reading list, and upon checking the catalog at my local library I was very disappointed to see it was located in the graphic novel section."My local library shelved it in the section with the biographies, autobiographies, and memoirs where it belongs.
Yes, I think this is a difficult one to categorize. It just put me off at first because I had never picked up a graphic novel, but now I am interested in reading more.
I read Watchmen last year, and I was surprised by how much I loved it. I have been looking for another graphic novel to read, and it sounds as if Fun Home should go in my TBR stack.
I listened recently to the podcast where Michael recommended Fables and have to say that I am absolutely loving the series. I plan to pick up Y: The Last Man after I'm done with Fables.
Yay Carol! I'm so glad you are loving Fables. I just think it gets stronger and stronger as you read. I bet you'll love Y as well!
Rita: Watchmen isn't for everyone (very, very dark), but I think it's pretty brilliant.
Rita: Watchmen isn't for everyone (very, very dark), but I think it's pretty brilliant.
Carol wrote: "I listened recently to the podcast where Michael recommended Fables and have to say that I am absolutely loving the series. "
I read the first-in-series of Fables, LEGENDS IN EXILE, last year and loved it! I don't know why I didn't pick up the next one, ANIMAL FARM, right away, but I think it's definitely going into my next order!
STITCHES by David Smalls, PETER AND MAX BY Bill Willingham and, the BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER OMNIBUS, VOL 1 by Joss Whedon are all on mymy wishlist too.
I did I manage to overlook this thread all this time?
I read the first-in-series of Fables, LEGENDS IN EXILE, last year and loved it! I don't know why I didn't pick up the next one, ANIMAL FARM, right away, but I think it's definitely going into my next order!
STITCHES by David Smalls, PETER AND MAX BY Bill Willingham and, the BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER OMNIBUS, VOL 1 by Joss Whedon are all on mymy wishlist too.
I did I manage to overlook this thread all this time?
Thumbs up to Watchmen, and hey Michael, how come neither you or Anne have a "Big Ideas" bookshelf? I loved your suggestion to bookstores about having a section by the same name. Now you must lead by example. lol ps. I'm thinking of this because I've been looking at these books and adding them.
This came across my Twitter feed today and may be of interest to graphic novel readers:
A Cartoon Depiction of Real Iranian Life http://nyti.ms/bxUlW0
The comic will run starting Friday, February 19, 2010 at:
http://www.zahrasparadise.com/
It will be collated into a book to be published next year.
A Cartoon Depiction of Real Iranian Life http://nyti.ms/bxUlW0
The comic will run starting Friday, February 19, 2010 at:
http://www.zahrasparadise.com/
It will be collated into a book to be published next year.
I'm a lifelong comic book lover and am unashamed to call comics comics, rather than the highfalutin' name of graphic novel. I could recommend any number of ways to go, but you can't go wrong starting with anything by Alan Moore.
I'll give some book/graphic novel analogues:
Gabriel Garcia Marquez=Gilbert Hernandez
Richard Stark/Lee Child/Lawrence Block=Frank Miller/Ed Brubaker/Darwyn Cooke
Vladimir Nabokov=Alan Moore
Thomas Pynchon=Rick Veitch
I'll give some book/graphic novel analogues:
Gabriel Garcia Marquez=Gilbert Hernandez
Richard Stark/Lee Child/Lawrence Block=Frank Miller/Ed Brubaker/Darwyn Cooke
Vladimir Nabokov=Alan Moore
Thomas Pynchon=Rick Veitch
Saul Bellow=Will Eisner
Marcel Proust=Chris Ware
Neil Gaiman = Neil Gaiman
Harry Potter = Fables
The Dresden Files = Hellblazer
Marcel Proust=Chris Ware
Neil Gaiman = Neil Gaiman
Harry Potter = Fables
The Dresden Files = Hellblazer
Stephen King= Locke and Key, Moore's Swamp Thing, EC Comics reprints
Philip K Dick = Grant Morrison
Philip K Dick = Grant Morrison
If you like Kurosawa films, you'd love Lone Wolf & Cub
People interested in sixties freakiness would do well to track down reprints of underground comics by R Crumb and Gilbert Shelton.
People interested in sixties freakiness would do well to track down reprints of underground comics by R Crumb and Gilbert Shelton.
Eric wrote: "I'm a lifelong comic book lover and am unashamed to call comics comics, rather than the highfalutin' name of graphic novel. I could recommend any number of ways to go, but you can't go wrong starti..."
Eric - this is awesome! Wonder if you'd like to expand this a little bit as a guest blog post for Books on the Nightstand? No pressure, no deadline -- but I think our readers would find it really cool.
Eric - this is awesome! Wonder if you'd like to expand this a little bit as a guest blog post for Books on the Nightstand? No pressure, no deadline -- but I think our readers would find it really cool.
Tanya wrote: "This came across my Twitter feed today and may be of interest to graphic novel readers:
A Cartoon Depiction of Real Iranian Life http://nyti.ms/bxUlW0
The comic will run starting Friday, February..."
Tanya, thanks! My book group is meeting Thurs, and we are discussing Persepolis, so this is great info to share with them!
A Cartoon Depiction of Real Iranian Life http://nyti.ms/bxUlW0
The comic will run starting Friday, February..."
Tanya, thanks! My book group is meeting Thurs, and we are discussing Persepolis, so this is great info to share with them!
Adrienne wrote: "Thumbs up to Watchmen, and hey Michael, how come neither you or Anne have a "Big Ideas" bookshelf? I loved your suggestion to bookstores about having a section by the same name. Now you must lead b..."
Oh,that would make too much sense!
I actually have a blog post half-written that lists more "big idea" books, but I do like the idea of a bookshelf. thanks!
Oh,that would make too much sense!
I actually have a blog post half-written that lists more "big idea" books, but I do like the idea of a bookshelf. thanks!
Eric wrote: "Saul Bellow=Will EisnerMarcel Proust=Chris Ware
Neil Gaiman = Neil Gaiman
Harry Potter = Fables
The Dresden Files = Hellblazer"
Fables rocks! I highly recommend it! Thanks Eric.
Ann wrote: "Adrienne wrote: "Thumbs up to Watchmen, and hey Michael, how come neither you or Anne have a "Big Ideas" bookshelf? I loved your suggestion to bookstores about having a section by the same name. No..."I made just such a bookshelf for myself, but only have one book to go there right now. Can't wait for your blog post!
I just discovered graphic novels myself last year when I decided to read Watchmen. I was pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed it and how deep (and dark) it was. Since then, I've been experimenting with them. I read The Unwritten and loved it. I also read Stitches over the weekend. It was wonderful. I have Fables and Persepolis and Maus on my lists. I'll also have to check out the 500 list mentioned earlier.Oh, and like any good Browncoat, I've read the Serenity/Firefly graphic novels.
you've made some good choices there Melissa! I'd also recommend Y: The Last Man.
(go Browncoats!)
(go Browncoats!)
I highly recommend Stitches and Cancer Vixen: A True Story, memoirs told in the graphic novel format. Both are extremely moving.
I just read Stitches yesterday. My first graphic book since I read illustrated classics when I was in my single digits, half a century ago. Impressive. I will definitely look for more.
Linda
Linda
I read Preludes and Nocturnesyesterday. I used to read comic books as a kid, but this is the first graphic novel I have read in a long time.
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The Sandman, Vol. 1: Preludes & Nocturnes (other topics)Stitches: A Memoir (other topics)
Stitches: A Memoir (other topics)
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Persepolis: The Story of a Childhood (other topics)
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For anyone else who wants to use this book, I've set up a group here on Goodreads. Head on over, check it out and read a graphic novel (or 500!). I'm hoping we'll get a great group of folks over there, a mix of comics readers and comics newbies.