But such accounts did not emerge from nowhere. The experience of all wars is that armies, unless under very tight discipline, commit atrocities—and no one would suggest that the Germanic armies were under strict control.
“The trials also raised questions of pressing general interest: the role of the great individual in shaping the fortunes of the city, and the reasons for the failure in the Peloponnesian War and the loss of the empire.
"' See further Ch. 4 below. In a late anecdote (Plut. _`lie. 4. 5-6 and with variation Ath. 12. 534ef) someone called Anytus features as Alcibiades' shamefully treated lover. This has led some to suggest that one of the motives of Anytus in his prosecution of Socrates was to rid himself of the stigma of an association with Socrates. But the historical credentials of the store are pitiful.
" Dem. i9. i f i .
az Cf. Osborne (1985: esp. 52-3); Ober (ig8q: 148); both comparing courtroom to theatre.
2.”
― Alcibiades and Athens: A Study in Literary Presentation
"' See further Ch. 4 below. In a late anecdote (Plut. _`lie. 4. 5-6 and with variation Ath. 12. 534ef) someone called Anytus features as Alcibiades' shamefully treated lover. This has led some to suggest that one of the motives of Anytus in his prosecution of Socrates was to rid himself of the stigma of an association with Socrates. But the historical credentials of the store are pitiful.
" Dem. i9. i f i .
az Cf. Osborne (1985: esp. 52-3); Ober (ig8q: 148); both comparing courtroom to theatre.
2.”
― Alcibiades and Athens: A Study in Literary Presentation
“Ultimately, saying that you don't care about privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different from saying you don't care about freedom of speech because you have nothing to say.”
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“To treat these speeches at this point, before considering 'I'hucydides, might seem contrary to natural chronology. Yet the History as we have it, including the important analysis of Alcibiades at 6. 15, must have achieved its final form after the end of the war-perhaps at around the time Lys. 14 and Isoc. 16 were composed. In any case, as I will argue in Chapter 3, the polarized debate of accusation and defence exemplified in these speeches is essential background to the presentation of Alcibiades in the Histor - v. Moreover, the discussion of the speeches will maintain the focus on Alcibiades' civic image which dominated the previous chapter. For these reasons, it is convenient to discuss the rhetorical material first.”
― Alcibiades and Athens: A Study in Literary Presentation
― Alcibiades and Athens: A Study in Literary Presentation
“Indeed, what `display' speeches seek to display is partly expertise at appealing to a (notional) demos audience. It is in this area where ideology meets rhetoric that the discussion of this chapter will be located.”
― Alcibiades and Athens: A Study in Literary Presentation
― Alcibiades and Athens: A Study in Literary Presentation
“Of the rhetorical works composed in the classical period on the subject of Alcibiades, four survive: Isocrates, 16; Lysias, 14 and 15; and [Andocides] 4. [And.] 4,”
― Alcibiades and Athens: A Study in Literary Presentation
― Alcibiades and Athens: A Study in Literary Presentation
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