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Was this the end point of existence? Alice could have wept with the ridiculousness of it. Now she understood Hell in full. She saw its intricate design; ... that all its karmic reflection just was to show life’s worthlessness to begin with. The point was not rehabilitation but a stripping down to form, to show that humans were blindly writhing worms, rooting about to feel anything at all.

"Alice could not shake the conviction that if she had gotten into a tizzy about it, then it was all her own fault."
yep this is her own living hell huh - the actual journey to hell was in fact not what the "Katabasis" is based on but ACADEMIA, literally when Murdoch said " Hell is a campus." they were in their own version of hell this whole time.. then when Elspeth said the shades are where they want to be... well

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"But it had never been about the recommendation letters. It was only about revenge, and bloody control, and having Grimes understand at last how it felt to be someone else’s toy. It was only a fever dream. And Peter was too smart to for a second believe otherwise."

and that, folks is the hard pill to swallow!!!

still waiting on when this gets to the part everyone’s pissed off about

I’ve read a lot of reviews and I still don’t know what part they were referring to about the content going from great world building to getting too educational??

"I understand Maguire's comment about it being better than it has a right to be. Erasing Elphaba's childhood in which she was a danger to pretty much everyone and horrible to look at because teeth, and introducing her only when she's in control of herself, makes it 100% easier to like E and root for her from the start."
https://www.reddit.com/r/wicked/comme...

I’d be crashing the heck out if I’d witnessed what the pastor just witnessed 😭😭😭

"What I am is the Indian who can’t die.

I’m the worst dream America ever had."

how powerful is that line!!

Eve is so unlikeable, she’s literally the whole reason this whole thing is going on !!!! Doormat Eve

no kid acts the way jenny does omfg, this is a parody of a kid !!!! IM SO MAD

tone is so off putting, gives like “oh you need to know this !! by the way!!” 🫩🫩🫩🫩

Nahhhh I don’t even pity whatever happens to Eve because she did this to her own self.

“Eve could actually picture the endless void below, the hand of financial doom rising from the bluish-black, wrapping its gnarled fingers around her ankle, dragging her into the depths below”

Also girl bSFR!!!!

LESBIANS!!!! Y’ALL LOVE SO DEEPLY AND BREATHTAKINGLY I AM GIGGLINNNNNGGGG

Nauuurrrr.. the people in the acknowledgments were the people whose poems I did not enjoy!!!!!!

What I really like about this book is Martin's POV - he's annoying but I like how he's been written!!

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Yeah that’s right, 6 STARS

DNF at Chapter 9
THANK FUCK my bookclub partner finished this first.
If you don’t like being mansplained to and having to go through a gross “main” character who’s a freak for wanting to fuck every boy he sees, skipppppp.

all Xian does is lust about men and think he's on an honourable quest to save his mother, unlikeable