I was a pastor when I nearly died by suicide. But wanting to die didn’t happen overnight.

In fact, I was first introduced to shame when I was just a preschooler. Recovery from childhood sexual abuse didn’t even begin until after I woke up in an ICU hospital room, after I tried to die by suicide.

It was my honor to share my story with a brand-new podcast, “Instructions for Living a Life.” If you’re tired of living, or love someone who struggles with their own mental health, I strongly encourage you to listen to my conversation with Chrisie and Adam.