Jack: I agree with Katniss. And I’m tired all these excusitarians here believing technology wiill save the Earth, and us, while we go merrily along living and supporting a lifeway that is running roughshod over it. It’s hopey-ism on steroids. And extreme bad-faith. Or maybe it isn’t even that…most here seem to not care much about the Earth and our fellow beings beyond a self-centered humanism, only caring about our own damn species, and themselves, persisting at any expense to the rest of life. Who ARE you people here? Do you have hearts of stone? Earth’s biodiversity has diminished, since OUR industrial age, to less that 50% of what it was. We are in the midst of the 6th mass extinction (aptly named the Anthropocene-caused by humans and our ravinous ways), the oceans are dying, our rivers are polluted (oh…we treat our drinking water, so that’s OK- no matter the wildlife that has to live in its toxicity), less than 5% of the Earth has not been raped over by humans, we are clearcutting the once-wild rainforests, we enslave and murder 70 billion “food” animals yearly for mere titillation of tastebud, not to mention 5 trillion marine beings yearly, 45% of Earth’s aerable land surface is given oven over to “livestock”- for monoculture feed crops or grazing, and the list goes on and on. But noooo…. you people would rather argue here about how we can have 2X as many people, or more, and wax wonderful about how technology will come to the rescue, and lambast someone who tells it like it is- we ARE destroying the Earth and fellow flora and fauna in an all-out war on life. If you gave 2 shits you all here would have at least agreed with Katniss’ assessment of things instead of your knee-jerk reaction defending and rationalizing your precious human population. And how convenient to portray her position on population as fascist and racist…makes it easy to shoot the messenger.

Ria:  Thanks for speaking truth while under spurious zombie attack Katniss. Anyone who’s still humbly connected with Earth in the least, or at least not entirely succumbed to indoctrination of human supremacy, senses our species’ death march leading all over the cliff. Behind our exploitive/consumptive lifeway is our ethos that we are preordained with authoritarian control over the entire world. This is the ethos- that we are supreme over all other animals to the degree that we even deny our own animality and compassionate interconnection with animals and wild Earth too- that drives us to invade the homes of remaining free roaming animals and deplete them of their thriving autonomous life, for us to conquer both them and their home at our whim. By now many children sense it- our offsprings’ and even their own doom. They sense the obvious consequences of human disconnect from wild Earth deeper than free earth deniers, those indoctrinated adults regenerating and coercing a hegemonic culture of death upon the young and shame-pressuring free thinkers & feelers into silence.. For me and an increasing number of others, opening one’s eyes to the dystopia of human overpopulation has nothing to do with politics, but everything to do with being truly human amongst other living beings striving to survive as we ever encroach into and steal their homes and lives, driving them and us closer and closer to the suffering & mass die-off fate we’re bestowing on all, including ourselves. The true fascists are the ones encouraging the ‘perfect supreme species’ continued assault on Earth’s communities of free life. The mythology of ‘progress will keep us safe & happy’ has already caved in, yet the heartless zombies still wander earth, totally disconnected, attacking those who merely point out the most urgent & obvious reality in hopes of sparking the only awakening that can truly return a sustainable planet. PS Care about Earth? For all earthly beings & life, go vegan & stop breedin’ mf’s. And liberate and return wildness, Earth’s natural and only true state of thriving.