An Idea For A Different Type Of Book Review Site

We have been having a discussion in the LinkedIn Crime Novel group about book reviews and it made me think more deeply on the subject. Most people, both authors and reviewers, think about reviews in this way: Someone reads the book, summarizes the plot, describes what he/she liked and didn't like, and gives it some kind of a grade or score. But isn’t the main purpose of a review to help readers pick books that they will enjoy reading?

At the base of it all isn't the idea, the desired result, to have a skilled, trusted person act as a filter to sift through hundreds or thousands of books in a genre and pick out only the ones he/she thinks are worth the reader’s time? I suggest that the value of a reviewer is to filter out the bad to mediocre stuff and pass along the good to great stuff.

If you think a major best-selling book is terrible then there is some value in a site publishing a review that essentially says, “I think this is a terrible book because … In my opinion it is a waste of your time and money.”

But, if we are talking about books that people are unlikely to find on their own I think that there isn’t a tremendous amount of utility in a book review website publishing a “don’t buy this book” review or a “this is a mediocre book” review. The odds are very high that the reader will never just stumble across that book on their own so why waste limited time and energy and blog space telling them to skip it?

If you are dealing with little-known books, wouldn’t it be much more helpful to readers to sift out the mediocre and below books and only publish reviews of books you thought were well worth their time? It seems to me that the most useful thing a reviewer can do for a reader is to say:

“I’ve searched through the twenty Sci Fi [or whatever genre] novels that were sent to me last week and I found this one that is terrific. Here is what it’s about and here is why I really liked it. I think that this book is worth a few minutes of your time to check out on Amazon’s ‘Look Inside’ feature. The other nineteen books that I looked at were all mediocre or below so I won’t waste your time with details about them.”

If a review site operated that way the reviewer could probably reject half the books by the time she/he finished the first chapter. As soon as the reviewer found himself frustrated with a book, he/she could stop reading right there and move on to the next candidate. No need to read the whole thing.

Winnow the to-be-reviewed pile down to books that the reviewer thinks scored at least a 7 on a scale of 1 to 10 and skip the rest. Limit the review scores to

(7) Good solid meat and potatoes read – Something for the beach/airplane
(8) Very good – add this to your bedtime reading list
(9) Superior – Start reading this one as soon as possible
(10) Terrific – Start reading this book NOW

When you get right down to it, doesn’t the reader just want to know what books are worth his/her time to check out, what the plot is, and why the reviewer liked it?

So, my proposal is that someone start a review site where the books are separately listed by genre and maybe even by sub-genre and the site only prints reviews with the above ratings. Books that aren’t at least a seven on a scale of 1-10 are ignored.

That way the reviewer can plow through the inbox, immediately discarding the books that don’t meet these criteria, and concentrate on the ones that the reviewer thinks are worth his/her reader's time.

Something to think about.

--David Grace
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Published on September 26, 2012 09:56 Tags: book-reviews, reviewers, reviews
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message 1: by Andrew (new)

Andrew Rhomberg An interesting music site was started a couple of weeks/months ago called "Just MY Jam" - it allows people to recommend only one album per week = it limits them to the best stuff, but the downside is that it becomes a popularity filter and is poor at filtering out interesting stuff from the long tail


message 2: by David (new)

David Grace Yes, that's one of the problems with crowd-sourcing structures. I'm perfectly happy with a pro or semi-pro doing the reviewing. As a reader I really want someone I can trust giving me a list of new books worth my while. As a writer, I want my book to be on that list.

--David Grace


message 3: by Andrew (last edited Sep 30, 2012 07:19AM) (new)

Andrew Rhomberg Well, one of the problems that has been barely tackled by anybody is that the person "I trust" id different from person to person.

Companies like Klout make the assumption that a person's influence can be reduced to a single number. I think that is not so. A particular book could be very meaningful to one reader, but not to another and is the same with reviewers. One reviewers opinion and recommendation could be highly relevant to me, while another's is entirely beside the point.

I think that the "social [interest] graph" will play a bigger and bigger role. I mean not simply one's Twitter followers or Facebook friends, but the circle of people who are able to influence our reading behaviour because we trust their domain expertise or we trust them to know who we are and what would be relevant to us (social expertise).

It is an area we are exploring at Jellybooks www.jellybooks.com . How could you take the numerous reviews on Goodreads, on Amazon, on blogs and in professional newspapers and filter them to be relevant to the individual. In a nutshell, the NYT may not be the authorative or relevant source to everybody, sometimes the review by a friend is fr more relevant to me, not matter how "amateurish".


message 4: by David (last edited Sep 30, 2012 07:38AM) (new)

David Grace I just checked out Jellybooks and it looks interesting. I have signed up on the "author" list.

I have a suggestion. In my opinion, the biggest failure of most websites is in the area of sort and search. When you are dealing with Long Tail items, sort and search sophistication become crucial.

The book covers on the Jellybooks home page seem to be all over the map. I would urge Jellybooks to add a "Filter" or "Sort" drop-down panel with as many check boxes as possible, at least 50.

Then the user can check Hard SF, Suspense, Police Procedural, for example, and click the "Apply Filter" button and see the filtered covers.

I think you also want to offer the user a sort choice at least one level deep if not two: Title, Author, Date Published, Price, Best Selling (if data available), Best Reviewed, Most JellyB Clicks (how many Jellybook users have clicked on that cover).

If I can't find something then, in a way, it does not exist.

I hope you really, really, attack the sort/search issues.

David Grace


message 5: by Andrew (new)

Andrew Rhomberg We deliberately started out celebrating the "serendipity" of book discovery.

For more on why there is no search button on www.jellybooks.com look here http://jellybooks.tumblr.com/post/195... In short, you do not need a "discovery" site when you already know the author or title of the book. Amazon or Google is all you need for that.

The main focus for Jellybooks is social recommendations, but we are not there yet (sorry).

Categories (phase I) are coming next week. At first it will be just 4 tabs for the most common categories. This will evolve into 4 tabs or "filters" that can be configured to one's personal tastes. We observe that most readers have very predictable and constant genre preferences. There is no point navigating a complex "genre tree" with many nested branches (I personally hate that kind of user interface). Instead most users just want to quickly narrow down what they see.

However, as I said, we do celebrate the "I'm feeling lucky" experience or what you call "all over the place". So much so, that we will start randomizing the order/layout of covers between visits, so that all the books in say "space opera" are mixed up between visits, forcing you to look at new stuff. Stimulate the brain!

Discovery involves taking some risks and what we are experimenting with is finding the right balance between order and chaos to stimulate book discovery. The site would look like an Amazon clone, if we were not prepared to take some risk. :)


message 6: by David (last edited Sep 30, 2012 09:43AM) (new)

David Grace Hi Andrew,

I could not disagree with you more.

I suspect that you may think that shopping for a book is fun. It is not fun. For most people it is a chore and something they want to do as easily and quickly as possible.

The problem for readers is not finding a book by title or author. As you say, if I knew there was a new Martin Cruz Smith book out, I could just go to Amazon and be done with it.

The problem is finding a book I will think is a good book for me when I don't know what that book is.

Generally that means my finding a well-written genre book. Readers want to discover a book they don't know by an author they may not know and they need the site to make that task easy for them, not harder. Just giving me a huge mess of unfiltered titles and telling me paw through them in hopes that after several hours I may stumble across something is a terrible plan.

I refuse to waste my time on any site that does that.

If you enter the search term "space opera" into B&N, for example, you get over 3,600 books. Impossible to deal with. If you only looked at new SF books this month on B&N there would be hundreds.

It seems to me that JellyBooks is talking about building yet another dog pile site. What a waste of my time! I don't have the time or energy nor the slightest inclination to slog through hundreds, leastwise thousands, of titles in a drawn-out search for something I might like.

Randomly wandering around an unfiltered mess of titles is a terrible waste of my time, especially when only one out of ten or twenty or fifty will be (1) professionally written, (2) in a sub-genre I am interested in; (3) have a story line that I might like.

I agree that most readers do indeed have very predictable genre preferences. Yes! But they are not "Science Fiction" or "mysteries" genre preferences. They are "Science Fiction->hard SF->military" for example, or Mystery->detective->cozy->locked room. Very, very granular.

I have been reading SF all my life and have been a member of SFWA for over 30 years but I don't read time travel books, fantasy, post-apocalypse or humorous SF books. If JellyBooks doesn't give me a very granular genre list how am I supposed to find what I want? Just SF or just Mysteries search categories are totally useless.

If Jellybooks doesn't give me a very granular way to find the sub-category of SF that I like, if it just gives me 2,000 "SF" books, what good is Jellybooks to me? Worthless to me, is my response. In that case I may as well stick with Amazon.

I need a site that makes my life easier, not harder. I need a site that lets me quickly and easily drill down to the type of books I want and then lets me order them (sort them) in a way that allows me to find the best book for me in the shortest period of time.

Just saying, "Here are a thousand book covers, have fun randomly wandering through them" is a total waste of my time. That is not fun.

If that's what JellyBooks is offering, I'm sticking with Amazon. I need more. I need a website that makes my book-buying easier, not harder.

At the base of it, most people do not view shopping for a book as a recreational experience. It is a chore.

Please reconsider your plan. Please build a site that recognizes that shopping for a book is not fun for most people and that makes the shopping experience easier and faster, not harder and longer.

--David Grace


message 7: by Andrew (new)

Andrew Rhomberg In many ways, what you describe seems like a form of Goodreads to me except that you want all reviews to be written by unbiased professionals, who even if they get paid, will not let remuneration influence them as to what or how they review books. Maybe there is somebody who wishes to pursue this, but I am rather sceptical about the prospects for such an edeavor.

It is off course impossible to build a product for EVERYBODY, as nice as that would be. I find browsing a book store to be actually fun and so do others. On the other hand there are people who hate "shopping" in any form and that is very understandable.

As for genres, the question is not one of granularity (I simply picked the first SciFi term that came to mind that was not "SciFi"), but one of consistency. Do you return to the same set of granular categories or not? If not, then our proposition is flawed. If yes, then it is just a matter of getting from A to B (Rome wasn't built in a day).

Why would we not have ALL sub-categories from day 1? Well, because it takes 12-24 months to get a publisher on board. We distributes DRM-free samples of the first 10%, because we think to get really interested in a book, you need to sample it and that sending a sample WITH your recommendation makes a recommendation more powerful for friends. That requires us to get the rights from publishers.

Completely separate form jellybooks, we also offer a free cloud hosting service, so that these samples can be added to homepages, blogs, websites etc.

In other words somebody else could build the site you imagine and access the book samples we distribute (the number of which increases as we secure the rights - we are 10,000 right now).

Discovery will take place in many different ways. Don't get distracted by the choices we make on jellybooks.com. The serendipity argument was only one of many and we persue it precisely because there are already sites like Amazon, Google, Goodreads etc and because we have a particular user in mind. We know we cannot please everybody. Sorry for that.


message 8: by David (new)

David Grace Hi Andrew,

Can you send me an email to my personal email address: DavidGraceAuthor@gmail.com so that I can send you a personal message instead of continuing our discussions on my public blog?

Thanks, I appreciate it.

Best,

David Grace


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