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Jun 05, 2013 01:45PM
Karen- I'm so glad you wrote about theme, and for the opportunity to read your thoughts on it, of course. As you know, I'm currently re-reading George R.R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire series, which has me wondering: what are some of the themes therein? If there are themes, they seem pretty subtle to me. What are your thoughts?
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I agree the themes in GOT are very subtle. But the first theme has got to be "if you play the game of thrones you play to win or you die." This really is not a very complex theme. I think most people would read that statement and say they agree, so there doesn't seem to be much to explore with that theme. The second theme might have to do with the power of family, the good, the bad, and the ugly. This is explored in the Lanaster family, where you've got 'good' people born into a 'bad' family. But to be honest, I don't think themes are a main driver for GRRM. I think his stories are much more character driven.
Karen wrote: "I agree the themes in GOT are very subtle. But the first theme has got to be "if you play the game of thrones you play to win or you die." This really is not a very complex theme. I think most peop..."Yes, they are incredibly character-driven, I love that!
I like that you used the Lannisters as a prime example of good people born into a bad family. I think Tryrion is, for the most part, a good person, trying to do the best he can, given the situation. To a degree, I'd say that Jamie's the same way, particularly later on in the series. Don't get me started on Cersai, through! She's the epitomy of pure evil, IMO!
Your chosen quote, or theme if you will, is one of my most cherished of the series. "When you play the game of thrones, you win or you die." Indeed!!
Jamie is definitely tilting toward good, and in my opinion, Tyrion has always been one of the good guys, another reason he does not fit in that family, but I've always felt Cersei is a lost cause. Too bitter and too keen to emulate her father.
Karen wrote: "Jamie is definitely tilting toward good, and in my opinion, Tyrion has always been one of the good guys, another reason he does not fit in that family, but I've always felt Cersei is a lost cause. ..."Yes, must too bitter!
Karen wrote: "Jamie is definitely tilting toward good, and in my opinion, Tyrion has always been one of the good guys, another reason he does not fit in that family, but I've always felt Cersei is a lost cause. ..."Plus not to mention, I'm somewhat biased toward the Imp. He's been a favorite of mine since the very beginning.:)


