Tolkien and the ancient Greeks

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I had to take a hiatus from writing my Shire Wisdom blog for about five months. I had a weird and scary thing happen to my heart (and I'll write about that in a blog post soon). But I'm all better now, thanks to my family and the fact that I followed what I had learned while writing The Wisdom of the Shire! (Author, heal thyself!)

I was also deep into writing the second book in my Warrior Trilogy. The first book hit the stores on June 11th, and I just got back from Greece where I was finishing up research for Book 3 and meeting with my Greek publisher. You can read about my amazing trip to the very real place where my story takes place here.

A lot of people have asked me why someone like me--a lover of Tolkien and fantasy--would write a historical fiction series. What does it have to do with Tolkien? Well, reading Tolkien as a boy piqued my interest in ancient Greek mythology. I had a teacher, a priest in fact, who told me that the fall of Númenor from The Silmarillion was based on the legend of Atlantis. It intrigued me to think that Tolkien had learned a story (probably when he was very young) that grew inside him like a magic tree and evolved into something uniquely his own.

Delving into Homer for the first time (which I did so after reading my own version of the Iliad, aka The Lord of the Rings) I was struck by the similarity in the "high style" of some of Tolkien's writing, especially the battle scenes. In fact, if you read The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien there is this wonderful quote in Letter 142: "I was brought up in the Classics, and first discovered the sensation of literary pleasure in Homer." --J.R.R. Tolkien, 1953

In The Wisdom of the Shire I wrote about the Greek legend of the Ring of Gyges and how this story--a ring of invisibility that brings with it a terrible curse--most likely influenced the invention of Sauron's One Ring.

Tolkien even coined an important literary word using Greek roots: Eucatastrophe. It means "good catastrophe"--a turn of events for the protagonist where everything suddenly goes from utter crap and doom to rainbows and awesomeness (think the finale of The Return of the King and the fall of Barad-dûr).

When I was in college I started reading the ancient Greek playwrights, and then the histories of Thucydides and Herodotus. The real world of ancient Greece, especially the so-called "Golden Age" of 5th century BC Athens, started to pull me in. For years I read everything about the Greeks that I could get my hands on, scouring used bookstores for obscure tomes and scholarly treatises.

About ten years ago I was hired to write a treatment for a documentary set during the Peloponnesian War (the bloody 30-year-long battle between Sparta and Athens). While rereading Thucydides I came across a story that I had glossed over the first time I had seen it. It was the tale of an independent and democratic city-state called Plataea that was invaded in a sneak attack at the outset of the Peloponnesian War. The heroic and clever way that the Plataeans fought off the invaders, and the subsequent epic siege of their citadel (which became the longest siege in the history of the world) struck me as a story that needed to be told. And so I started working on my novel Sons of Zeus .


Ten years later that book is sitting on the shelves in bookstores and libraries around the country. And I am incredibly proud of this story of love, courage and sacrifice. I never would have written this series if I hadn't read J.R.R. Tolkien's works. So that's how a fantasy author influenced me to write a work of historical fiction. And I could rewrite Tolkien's quote about the Classics like this: "I was brought up in Middle-earth, and first discovered the sensation of literary pleasure in Tolkien."

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Published on June 25, 2013 10:12 Tags: ancient-greeks, sons-of-zeus, tolkien
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message 1: by [deleted user] (new)

I have read your novel "Sons of Zeus" it's been great to read but I have a question: Are there any paperback or e-book version of the book instead of hardback?


message 2: by Noble (new)

Noble Smith Hi Yomi, I tried to send you a message via goodreads, but it send that you aren't taking messages. Thanks for complimenting Sons of Zeus! If you want more information about the book please write to info@thewarriortrilogy.com and I will respond. You can get an e-book version of the book via any US online book retailer. It's available on Kindle, Nook and Kobo. Because you're in the UK you can only get the hardcover or audiobook (check out Amazon.com/uk to order). If you send me an email I will mail you the prequel short story The One-Armed Warrior. Thanks for commenting!


message 3: by [deleted user] (new)

Thank for relying back, Noble!
I already send an email to you about it.


message 4: by Paul (new)

Paul Though, as I see, this post is from a while ago, but I was wondering if you would ever consider writing fantasy. In the tradition, as you put forth, that Tolkien did, masking ancient tale or even history in a fantasy novel.

On a side note - When I was young, I grew up in Oxford. I lived just streets away from where Tolkien is buried. All around the city center, reminders of Tolkien are everywhere. It never struck me until much later how fortunate I was to grow up in such a place. I only talk about it, because you would appreciate it!

Look forward to more of your books!


message 5: by Noble (new)

Noble Smith Paul wrote: "Though, as I see, this post is from a while ago, but I was wondering if you would ever consider writing fantasy. In the tradition, as you put forth, that Tolkien did, masking ancient tale or even h..."

Hey Paul! I'm so sorry that I missed your post. I've been so wrapped up in my job (my paying job at Xbox!) that I haven't worked on any of my own books or even checked goodreads in years. I am working on a fantasy novel...just haven't had the time to put pen to paper.

Yes, Oxford is a magical Tolkien-y place. That's so cool you got to grow up near Wolvercote cemetery. Check out this blog I wrote about doing a speed run of all things Tolkien in Oxford. I think you will enjoy it.
http://www.shirewisdom.com/2016/08/07...


message 6: by Luca (new)

Luca Marchetti Hi from Tuscany (Italy) Mr. Smith

I'm reading your books and I am totally enchanted by your style.
So, as first, my personal compliments.

On the other hand I was suprised while reading in SON OF ZEUS that Artisans in Platea think to Italy as a barbarian and uncivilized culture.

Probably you would have to read about the Etruscan History to have a better knowledge of ancient world around Greek Culture.

https://www.ancient.eu/Etruscan_Civil...
http://www.betuscanforaday.com/en/etr...
https://www.timemaps.com/civilization...
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Etru...

Such history (Villanovian Culture) start by XII century before Christ and was as rich in art and culture as Greek culture.
Etruscans conquered half of Italy and their culture was the base to create ROME.

Etruscan kings of Rome

Lucius Tarquinius Priscus (616–579)
Servius Tullius (578–535)
Lucius Tarquinius Superbus (535–510/509) BC.

Probably History doesn't celebrate Etruscans as Greeks but I may guarantee you that Italy was an higly civilized area esactly as Greece.

This is not a nationalist defence, this is simply history.

Luca Marchetti
(Art Historician)

luca@grifonline.it


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