Complete Interview In HuffPO – Love and SCOTUS

Here is a link to Helen Eisenbach’s article in the Huffington Post that I was interviewed for http://www.huffingtonpost.com/helen-e...     and below my complete answers.  Oh -la-la I am rubbing sentences with David Sedaris, MB Caschetta, Elana Dykewomon, Holly Hughes and many other great writers –


What was your first reaction when you heard the Supreme Court ruling?


I cried for joy because I do believe that making marriage equity the law of the land marks a milestone for greater civil liberties to all people in the United States.


Then, being me, I immediately started to worry that we are in real danger of accepting this landmark decision as an invitation to complacency. Pushing for marriage equity has taken up a lot of time, energy, and money – and hurray for Us – we won. But after we drink the champagne and eat the cake we still have dirty air and water and black folks being shot in the street, etc. My apology if yours is the cause or you are the human being who falls into this vast hole of etc.


Are there new or different stories you envision yourself telling as a result?


Yes. The novel-in-progress I am working on is about old women behaving badly. The protagonists are lesbians who have been together as a couple of sorts for sixty years.  One of the characters is no fan of monogamy. Their marriage is a negotiation as I suspect marriage always is. The women discuss and fight about the events of the day. Certainly they will follow this ruling and have things to say and argue about concerning it.


Do you think the culture will change?


As my late great dad always said “Everything is always changing.”  My fear is that marriage will change queers more than queers will change marriage. I am 63 years old and (full disclosure) have been in a loving relationship with the same woman for decades. We are probably getting married sometime soon. Still the institution of marriage, especially the part where The State gets involved in our relationship, has never been a big draw for either me or my beloved. Some folks seem to stay in amazing loving relationships for their whole lives. If marriage helps them do that, if having a party and vows in front of their friends makes them happy, I’m ready to eat more cake and throw more confetti.  As long as marriage doesn’t become seen as the only acceptable way for people to live meaningful lives or live with each other – hooray.


I hated the part at the end of the decision where Kennedy declares marriage is “essential to our most profound hopes and aspirations” and “no union is more profound than marriage.” Really – so people who don’t aspire to marriage are less profound? Are we less profound in our parenting and friendships and jobs and community relationships, too? I have a profound relationship with my beloved. If The State gets involved I will still have a profound relationship with her.


Worse was the bit about single people “condemned to lives of loneliness.” And this gem “It offers the hope of companionship and understanding and assurance that while both still live there will be someone to care for the other.” OK, in my experience this last bit about having someone to care for you at the end is sometimes true, but I have noticed that close friends are also a good bet in old age. Don’t get me started on Universal Health Care. The Affordable Care Act made it. I hear this may affect a few married and unmarried queers.


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Published on July 02, 2015 12:16
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