Nathan "N.R."’s Comments (group member since Jan 20, 2016)

Nathan "N.R."’s comments from the Bottom's Dream group.

And and too I should add. Since we're on goodreads. The biggest Schmidtian I know is Friend Michael. You should Friend/Follow him. [he speaks English too and don't let The Hulk fool you] ::
https://www.goodreads.com/user/show/4...

George wrote: " a beautiful collected works of Poe called The Borzoi Poe."

And I'm convinced it's true that you'll want to have read all of Poe ; not just the (now) famous gothic/horror stories. BD/ZT seems mostly interested in the ones no one in high school ever reads.

George wrote: "Thoughts on this: https://www.amazon.com/Arno-Schmidt-c... "

Yes. You want that. It's writem imitating the form of Arno's own in these things ::
Radio Dialogs I: Evening Programs
Radio Dialogs II
which of course you also want.

Bhaskar wrote: "Get the Collected Novellas first and look for the novellas 'Enthymesis', 'Lake Scenery with Pocahontas' etc."

I'll go one up on you! You won't be wasting your time at all reading all four of the Dalkey volumes. And Bottom won't be running anywhere in the meanwhile.

[that's some world=class porno]

Bhaskar wrote: "By the way, what about his 'The Egghead Republic'? I do not find it mentioned here."

"Egghead Republic" was an early English translation. You'll find it trans'd by Woods in Collected Novellas as 'Republica Intelligentsia'.

Evening has always been expensive. The lowest I've ever seen it is around US$100. I've heard no rumblings yet of a reissue. I think it would be terribly expensive from a publishing point of view given that the whole thing would probably have to be reset. And I don't think BD/ZT made quite the commercially successful splash none of us had really expected. But if things change you'll hear it first here!

Bhaskar wrote: "I have only been recently introduced to the works of Arno Schmidt. Till now I have four volumes from the series on the author put forth by Dalkey Archive: Collected novellas, Nobodaddy's children, ..."

Welcome Bhaskar!

Of his BIG books I've read School of Atheists first (easiest to find at the time) and am (still!) in the middle of Bottom's Dream having taken a rather (too) long break from it. Evening I have on the shelf but have not gotten started into it yet. [but I don't believe there's any particular reason to read them in chrono=order]. btw & fyi, when he died, Arno was 100 pages into his first draft of his next BIG format novel Julia, oder, Die Gemälde: Scenen aus dem Novecento [but I don't expect an english'ing any time soon if even ever]

Jim wrote: "I have just bought a copy of the new Chinese translation of Finnegans Wake, and it is much stranger than the original. The translator decided to use two sizes of characters to suggest alternative r..."

Did they get the whole thing trans'd? iirc, they'd only busted out about a hundred pages.

James wrote: "Michael Chabon wrote this of the Wake: ....The entire review is very, very funny."

I don't understand how famous writers can let such embarrassingly dumb pieces get published.

James wrote: "Hello.
Not read any AS yet. Know almost nothing of AS. Thinking of reading him because I like Finnegans Wake, and heard that BD was a kind of German FW. BD cannot be as difficult as Neal Stephenson’s “Necronomicon Cryptonomicon”. "

The Group Lives!!! Well come, James. BD ; Wake :: two very different things, off course. Both worth your whiling though naturally. [stephenson's knot anywhere close to this uni=verse!] BUT ; one of my favorite post=Wake novels --> Larva: A Midsummer Night's Babel.

James wrote: "Now that the year is 2018, almost 2 years after BD was published: is it more impenetrable than the Wake ? The Wake looks like a model of simplicity compared to BD."

Knot at awl!!! BD/ZT is just a pile of dirty=puns (fun-on-a-bun!) next to The Wake! The Wake is of course moist Joy(c)ous!

Are you sure you didn't steal it from Bargfeld?

Between wrote: "Nathan "N.R." wrote: "Yes."

Good."

But I'm a fan of the Dirty Old Man character.

Between wrote: "Is this coming across as a bit silly and juvenilly to anyone else? "

Yes.

Michael wrote: "This group has just been mentioned in the BARGFELDER BOTE #410 for its avid preoccupation with BD !"

Holy! That's totally cool!

Moving a convo ::


message 16: by Jean
8 hours, 24 min ago

Jean Louis | 4 comments
Hi
I discovered Arno Schmidt in the 60's with the first translated books in french, and I am proud to have bought "Soirs Bordes d'or" (Abend mit Goldrand- Evening edged with gold) when it came out in 1991 translated by Claude Riehl.
I posted some comments on the preceding books from AS and I am now trying to read "Bottom's Dream" (Zettel's Traum is too difficult for my poor german).
I can help the french reading people if necessary, or help those who would be interested of having a french discussion group on AS
jlv.livres@gmail.com



message 17: by Nathan "N.R.", Bottom - added it
3 hours, 57 min ago

Nathan "N.R." Gaddis (NathanNRGaddis) | 178 comments
Jean wrote: "Hi
I discovered Arno Schmidt in the 60's with the first translated books in french, and I am proud to have bought "Soirs Bordes d'or" (Abend mit Goldrand- Evening edged with gold) when it came out..."

Welcome to gr and Schmidt=Land, Jean! I haven't checked into the Schmidt=trans's into French ; so am pleased to hear that you've at least got Goldrand. I'm guessing a French ZT is some decades into the future?



message 18: by Jim
3 minutes ago

Jim Elkins | 2 comments
Hi, I'm curious about the French "Abend mit Goldrand": how does the translator deal with dialect (regional speech, accents)? And is the book done in "typescript" (as if from a typewriter) or is it designed (as on a computer)? I love the English "Evening Edged with Gold" because it is enormous, physically, but you can hold it open like a newspaper. By contrast the new "Bottom's Dream" is like a 19th c. family Bible or an early 20th c. encyclopedia: you have to bend to it, you can't hold it up. (I find that aggressive and strange, but I find the newspaper-like feeling of "Evening" attractive.) Best, Jim



[thank=you]

Can we move this conversation over to the Abend thread ::
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...

Matt wrote: "Nathan "N.R." wrote: "I remember the shag version too, Schwarze-Handle"

It's called Schwarze Hand and looks like this:"

There it is!

Jean wrote: "Hi
I discovered Arno Schmidt in the 60's with the first translated books in french, and I am proud to have bought "Soirs Bordes d'or" (Abend mit Goldrand- Evening edged with gold) when it came out..."

Welcome to gr and Schmidt=Land, Jean! I haven't checked into the Schmidt=trans's into French ; so am pleased to hear that you've at least got Goldrand. I'm guessing a French ZT is some decades into the future?

Jean wrote: "common cigarettes in the 70's
brown tobacco, quite strong in tar (10 mg) in nicotine 0.1 mg and 10 mg CO (per cigarette)
at that time the pack was less expensive (in DM, with the change) than the p..."

I remember the shag version too, Schwarze-Handle ;; but I couldn't find an image.

Apparently it's Wendish.
https://books.google.com/books?id=fyl...