Violet’s Comments (group member since Jul 07, 2009)

Violet’s comments from the Save the Earth group.

Exactly what I mean. Thanks for the clarification Psyc94.

Yep. Human nature and human error are basically the same thing. Humans are flawed....but that's part of what makes us unique and different from the animals. Yes, animals have flaws, but we have a different kind of flaw....you know what I mean?

I'm sorry. Its been awhile since I've been on this group myself. What topic are you talking about Kaitie?

And that's the thing about history. All of the information that we know about the anicent world could change tomorrow with some random new discovery. We didn't live in that time peirod, so we can't say that anything is really certain. And hundreds of years from now people are going to say the same thing about us.

History is just guesses or accounts written by the winners. History is never really certain unless we can talk to somebody who has been there and seen it. And even then its not completely certain. It all comes down to human error.

Yah, but things will take a while to get back to normal...at least in the marshes.

Lol, Rachel. That's perfect.

I totally agree with you Rachel (with the BP thing). That is exactly what BP should do if they don't want to A) have the government always, as you put it, 'breathing down their necks' or B) loose even more money in the clean up process.

For your information, the well is pluged and they're either almost done, or already done with drilling the relief well where they will permanently stop the leaking oil by pumping concrete into it. But there's of course still a lot of cleaning up to do...

That is a good point, Psyc94. Humans aren't perfect...so possibly the Mayans might've had some flaw in their calendar...and/or possibly they just misplaced their calendar that continued on from Dec. 21, 2012. They might've made it, we just don't know where it is. So, it might not have been the end of the world where they stopped, just the end of the calendar. Another reason why I think this 2012 is just not something to worry about.

I guess its good that the gov is putting pressure on them...but that of course could lead to them making a mistake because the gov is putting so much pressure on them to move faster that they could slip and not do something to make faster progress...but thank gosh that hasn't happened yet.

From what I've learned on NPR (no TV at my Grandmother's house which I'm vacationing at), the cap is going well. But it's not permanent, and it's not meant to be. The gov wants them to take off the cap (temporarily spilling oil into the Gulf) so they can permanently stop the well with concrete...or something like that, not really sure on the details....

Also according to NPR there are minor leaks at the sea bottom, but they are SO minor that scientists say not to worry about them.

As for the 'are humans intelligent?' question, I say yes. Just look at all we've done! We've walked on the moon for pete's sake! But humans are also normally extremely shortsighted, greedy, and hateful. All things that get us into so much trouble, and make the human race so imperfect and unable to have world peace and a perfect society.

But on a related note, that question reminds me of this converstation we had in English class in 7th grade. The teacher posed the question of 'what do you think is wrong with the world?' After much talking and pondering, the class basically came to the decision that what's wrong with the world is the human race....now I'm not so sure that's the case (in my opinion at least), so I want to know what you guys think about it.

Why? Don't mean to be rude or anything...but in my opinion 2012 is gonna be about as dangerous than any other year. There's no proof that 2012 will be any different (from what I've found). Yes, solar activity is up, Mayans have the end of their calender in that year, and the sun alines with the center of the galaxy (whatever that's means...). There's more, like increased hurrican ativity, droughts, floods, extreme hot weather, extreme storms (all probably caused by climate change), and more, but ALL of that's happening right now, and people don't think the world's going to end now. I'm sorry, but I'm not at all scared about 2012....but that's just my opinion.

Well everything that we use to messure time (including calendars and hours), along with other things like language, are all based upon a common agreement. If the whole agrees it is true, then it is true. How do we know something like those things are right or wrong? We think that based upon common agreement that certain things are right, but what if they are really wrong?...okay, I'm getting theological here, meaning that I could go on and on...but I won't. At least not now when I'm tired and want to go to bed.

Well the government is pressing down on BP. The plan was to capture most of the oil leaking, then drill another well to redirect the oil and capture it all. That second part was planned to be completed sometime in Aug. But because the government is putting so much pressure on them, they are moving faster with the whole thing.

They were adviced to check things, to not do other things, to replace other things, but they wanted to save money, so they didn't do them. They were cheap.

It needs to be a combination of solar, wind, hydro, bio, nuclear, and fusion. But not only that. We need to start decreasing our use, because if we don't do that there will be a growing energy gap between need and the amount of energy we can produce.

I know I heard about the oil below the surface thing. It's freaking insane. The whole thing is insane. I just don't want to think about it anymore. I mean from lies from BP about the amount of oil spilling, to BP dodging questions from Congress, to all the political crap that is happening because of this, and to all economical and environmental damage. I'm sick of it!

BP is going to really be hit by this spill. I mean hit hard! The reason why they drill station went down (the cause of the oil leak), was because BP and other companies (yes others as well, but none are to blame as much as BP) cut corners. They cut corners to save millions and its costing them and going to cost them billions. Stupid! Stupid, stupid, stupid.

Greed and fossil fuels. Never a good combination. But you have to realize that solar power isn't going to be THE sourse of fuels. It just wouldn't be practical with the growing population and therefore growing need for fuel. Its going to have to be a combination of everything.

I don't think there's a loop. Seriously, have you heard it on any other news channel? And I mean CNN's been wrong before. Take the case where they thought Obama was in this music video in the 90's. They reported it. It was wrong. They don't always double check things. And if it hasn't be said any where else, I doubt it's true.

I'm not sure if they calculated out the exacte dates or not...my guess is that people today translated their calender to the standered calender of today...but I'm not sure. You could look it up.

I think they were so accurate in their calendars because of the fact that they were great astronomers and they were able to base everything on Moon and planet cycles.

Remember, I don't pretend to know EVERYTHING about the Mayans. I'm basically tell you all I've learned from past history classes and this special on the history channel about 2012. Sorry if I seem like I know it all. Don't mean to sound like that...

Yah, I had no idea about that! That's horrible! I think I hate BP even more if that's possible. This whole mess is...well a mess. *sigh*

Well, we are switching to alternative fuels. It will take tons of time though. It will probably take all of my lifetime, if not more. We've been so dependent on fossil fuels for so long that we can't just switch over night. We need to slowly lean off of it. Fossil fuels are like our drug, and its not healthy to cut cold turkey. It will be hard and we do need to push, but once people see that oil and coal and natural gas can't solve all our problems, we all will slowly make the change to other fuels. It will take time and it won't happen all at once.

No, I didn't see that. Really?! Are you freaking telling the truth about that?! It just seems to dastardly to be true.

It's because of the type of star our sun is. It won't go supernova on us, but when it is near the end of its life, it starts to expand because its angrily eating up the last of its hydrogen fuel and its core is shinking and the star is cooling and expanding. It will expand to swallow all the inner planets, then it implode when it runs out of food and become a white dwarf star. Thus the sun 'explodes.' But that will happen in about 1 billion years.

Yeah, I guess. I see your point. But for arguement's sake, couldn't focusing everything on the clean up, and with all the reporters covering it, give them a kind of free advertising? If the news shows that they are using all they can on the oil leak, it would be like telling people, 'see we can be trusted' without spending money on ads to tell people that.

Then there's also the issue if them spending money on their shareholders instead of the clean up and subsidizing fishermen....

I've heard by someone that this oil leak could bankrupt BP, which is totally possible. If they keep on spending money on their sharholders and ads along with everything else, they could. But personally I think they won't. All that oil in the gulf is only the amount of oil that the US uses in ONE HOUR! Which brings us to the cause of all of this. Our growing need for oil, which makes oil companies drill risky wells and forget about safety because the need is so great making the pressure great. Without that need, none of this would be happening.

Techincally, the sun won't 'explode.' It will expand to first burn the Earth then engulf it...but that's doesn't really. We'll be LONG gone before that happens.

Yeah, oil leaks have happened in the past. But this one is the largest and has the most economic and evironmental impact in US history. And since its the most publicized oil leak as well, BP and the government are just getting hammered by angry people.

And the sad thing is your right Rachel. BP is trying and they can't do much, which is sad. But they are spending millions on a ads to try to make them look good (I'm sure you've seen them) and to shareholders, when they should be spending the money on the clean up effort and subsidizing the fishermen and resturant owners and others. That's what really makes me angry.