Comments on One Name as a Title - page 1

Having not read them, I do wonder if Twilight and Eclipse are names of characters? If they are not personas then they need to come off.

ETA - Fever and Darkfever, any idea if these are the names of characters?

Aren't Cranford and Middlemarch places rather than personal names?

Yes, but "Germinal" is not a person's name, either -- it's the name of a month on the French republican/ revolutionary calendar.

Palm/head - yes, of course! hahaha I'll remove it now.

Ditto the "place" novels. :)

It's a great list, btw!

Themis-Athena wrote: "Ditto the "place" novels. :)

It's a great list, btw!"
"Shogun" is a title.

I'm dubious about not only Twilight, which I have read, as I can remember no character named "Twilight" in it, but also about "Dr. Death."

I'd be willing to remove titles if there was general agreement on ones not fitting the terms of the list.

Susanna wrote: "I'd be willing to remove titles if there was general agreement on ones not fitting the terms of the list."

sling 'em orff, dear Susie!
And Germinal!

Yes, but which ones?

Twilight, Eclipse, Germinal.

Anything else?

Shogun isn't a name, it's a title.

Julius Caesar is not a single name.

Susanna wrote: "Yes, but which ones?

Twilight, Eclipse, Germinal.

Anything else?"

Those fever things and Dr Death - I'd tend to leave shogun alone as that's the way the dude was known, bit like ceasar *shrug*

Ceasar is a title derived from a name. Shogun is just a title, like general, or emperor. There have been many shoguns (70) but it was never anyone's name, not even in the book (his name was Toranaga). They called someone shogun because it literally means "Commander of the Forces".

I love these lists and the discussions they provoke - and that's all aside from the fact that they are memory joggers of titles read from 'back then' and inspiration for new reads to hunt down.

I also have doubts about "Nemesis," by Agatha Christie.

Also "Sandstorm."

And "Hyperion," unless we are including the names of planets.

All three of those should go into the wpb methinks.

Susanna wrote: And "Hyperion," unless we are including the names of planets."

I thought Hyperion was the Greek god of light, father of the Sun.

Grey - that should surely mean that Hyperion makes the grade here then.

Both Hyperion and Nemesis are names from Greek mythology -- they're both Titan deities (i.e., the generation preceding the Olympians). Can't speak to "Hyperion," but in Agatha Christie's "Nemesis," Miss Marple is dubbed "Nemesis" by another character, thus equating her with the ancient Greek deity of revenge.

Ooops, I just deleted Shogun because I thought it didn't belong. Should I put it back?

Lee wrote: "Ooops, I just deleted Shogun because I thought it didn't belong. Should I put it back? "

Greyweather reckons that it's not a name so it's to be deleted - thanks.

Great, whew!

Lee wrote: "Great, whew! "

I didn't realise you are one of those that can 'crank the doojahs' here - Julius Ceasar is not one name so could you flick it over there into the basket (which is near to overflowing after today's antics and I'm as guilty as the next person)

Thankee ma'am
xx

Sure, with pleasure.

Themis-Athena wrote: "Both Hyperion and Nemesis are names from Greek mythology -- they're both Titan deities (i.e., the generation preceding the Olympians). Can't speak to "Hyperion," but in Agatha Christie's "Nemesis,..."
Hamlet said that his father was to Claudius as "Hyperion to a satyr".

Themis-Athena wrote: "Both Hyperion and Nemesis are names from Greek mythology -- they're both Titan deities (i.e., the generation preceding the Olympians). Can't speak to "Hyperion," but in Agatha Christie's "Nemesis,..."

Wiki says Hyperion was a Titan, a god of light. Saturn has a moon called Hyperion.

I think Sandstorm was the Norse god of recycling, or maybe the Inuit god of high fructose corn syrup.

Lobstergirl wrote: "I think Sandstorm was the Norse god of recycling, or maybe the Inuit god of high fructose corn syrup."

There's a chapel in a Boston Subway station called "Our Lady of the Commuter Trains" I think there's probably a single German word for the same thing but I don't want to think about it. BTW: That must be some savage god, S/He of the High Fructose Corn Syrup. Here in the States we worship Cargill.

What about I, Claudius?

It is, technically, two words. Or is that a problem?

"Mountolive"?

Thom wrote: "Themis-Athena wrote: "Both Hyperion and Nemesis are names from Greek mythology -- they're both Titan deities (i.e., the generation preceding the Olympians). Can't speak to "Hyperion," but in Agatha Christie's "Nemesis,"..."
Hamlet said that his father was to Claudius as "Hyperion to a satyr"."

I know who Hyperion was in Greek mythology -- I meant the book with that title, which I can't comment on, not having read it.

Don't you go telling me all about Hamlet ... ;)

Susanna wrote: "What about I, Claudius?

It is, technically, two words. Or is that a problem?

"Mountolive"?"

According to Wikipedia, Mountolive is a last name.

Wasn't sure about "I, Claudius," when I added it -- but thought it was worth a shot. Technically, it's admittedly two words.

That said, "Vilette" refers to a town with that name where the novel's action takes place. If we're deleting the likes of "Middlemarch," "Cranford," or, for that matter, "Germinal" and "Shogun," shouldn't "Vilette" then have to go as well?

ETA: What about "Seabiscuit" and "Cujo"? Those are animals' names. Is this list about humans (and creatures that interact and, at least in one particular incarnation, look like humans, such as androids and mythological deities), or about all living creatures? Where then do we draw the line? (Plants?)

Themis-Athena wrote: "Susanna wrote: "What about I, Claudius?

It is, technically, two words. Or is that a problem?

"Mountolive"?"

According to Wikipedia, Mountolive is a last name.

Wasn't sure about "I, Claudius," ..."

Yes. yes, yes to all your points there - picky is good here - I have a disatste for the II, III etc too

;O)

I have no problem with a surname though - that is the nature of this list. A surname is just fine and dandy if that's the title and/or the way the character is addressed in the book, like Flashman for instance.

Agreed on surnames -- sorry if my earlier comment wasn't clear in that regard -- and likewise, for that matter, nicknames (e.g. "Sunshine").

Themis-Athena wrote: "Thom wrote: "Themis-Athena wrote: "Both Hyperion and Nemesis are names from Greek mythology -- they're both Titan deities (i.e., the generation preceding the Olympians). Can't speak to "Hyperion,"..."

Sorry, Themis.....BTW, Who said "You can't have a hamlet without breaking a few eggs." ?

Faulkner? Hemingway? Dr. Seuss??

My mum.

Wasn't Tigana a name of a country, not a person?

Is the list meant just to be novels/dramas? Because biographies are being added, like "Lincoln" by David Herbert Donald.

Lobstergirl wrote: "Is the list meant just to be novels/dramas? Because biographies are being added, like "Lincoln" by David Herbert Donald."

Sorry Lobstergirl, I haven't made the title clear - just ye olde fiction please. I'll go up and add a little something to the description box to reflect that.
:O)

You want anything removed? I see "Seabiscuit," for example, which is non-fiction.

Susanna wrote: "You want anything removed? I see "Seabiscuit," for example, which is non-fiction."

Orff with its head
:O)

Seabiscuit, nabbed.

Susanna wrote: "Seabiscuit, nabbed."

:OP

See anything else you want gone, just lemme know.

Reese wrote: "Since there are a few works with subtitles (or alternative titles?) on this list, I assumed that I could add Melville's PIERRE OR, THE AMBIGUITIES. Okay?"

No straplines or subtitles - just one name loud and clear.

Bettie wrote: "Reese wrote: "Since there are a few works with subtitles (or alternative titles?) on this list, I assumed that I could add Melville's PIERRE OR, THE AMBIGUITIES. Okay?"

No straplines or subtitles ..."

What's a "strapline" ?

HELP. I put "Don Quixote"into Search and was informed "no book found" WTF ?

Thom wrote: "What's a "strapline" ? "

a subheading
:O)

Friday by Heinlein; that ("Friday") is the main character's first name.