Tired of reading all the latest and "greatest" historical novels from our current batch of best selling authors? Looking for something old that could be a newly discovered treasure? Some of these have been newly reissued, but most are out of print and in some cases quite hard to find without spending a fortune, although the hunt is worth it. Happy reading.
Note to clarify: This list is for historical novels. It is not for novels that were contemporary at the time they were written/published. Austen, Bronte, Gaskell, etc. do not qualify.
Additional clarification 11/7/13:The list creator intended this list for long-lost, long-forgotten, out-of-print historical novels. As noted above, novels by authors like Bronte, Austen, etc. were contemporary at the time they were written, and do not qualify for this list. Children's books, romantic suspense, mysteries, "Jaws" or any other book that might be deemed a "classic". Historical novels that have been continuously in print and well known (that includes Sharon Penman, much as we love you) do not meet the purposes of this list, nor do historical novels that have only been published in the last year or two.
I apologize for the confusion, this list was created when I was fairly new to Goodreads and didn't realize anyone and everyone could vote on my list and that I hadn't made the guidelines for adding books clear enough.
Note to clarify: This list is for historical novels. It is not for novels that were contemporary at the time they were written/published. Austen, Bronte, Gaskell, etc. do not qualify.
Additional clarification 11/7/13:The list creator intended this list for long-lost, long-forgotten, out-of-print historical novels. As noted above, novels by authors like Bronte, Austen, etc. were contemporary at the time they were written, and do not qualify for this list. Children's books, romantic suspense, mysteries, "Jaws" or any other book that might be deemed a "classic". Historical novels that have been continuously in print and well known (that includes Sharon Penman, much as we love you) do not meet the purposes of this list, nor do historical novels that have only been published in the last year or two.
I apologize for the confusion, this list was created when I was fairly new to Goodreads and didn't realize anyone and everyone could vote on my list and that I hadn't made the guidelines for adding books clear enough.
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The Forty Days of Musa Dagh, by Hans Werfel...I tried three times with no success, yet the book exists in multiple editions on the Goodreads site. Frustrating.
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I found a couple that looked interesting, I put them on my to-read list. I remember a lot of these titles, but am not sure if I've read them or not. I like this list!
I love this list! I have found several I am planning to read and a few I have read since discovering this list. It is very exciting to find new books to read, even though these books aren't new at all1
Laura wrote: "Someone must have added these books on this list. If you are a librarian, you may remove them."GR is pretty serious about not removing books from lists unless they absolutely do not belong on said list. This is actually a list I created. I could reword the list description if that would help.
@Misfit: I actually assumed that you hadn't put those particular titles on the list and that someone else had added them (which was why I mentioned it).
Thing is, anyone can add a book to any list at GR. I'm OK with what gets added on as long as it isn't another stinking Twilight or Fifty Shades. I just like see the oldie books listed.
PS, I don't know if you've ever tried to remove a book from a list Laura, but there's a we are really really serious about removing books from lists so you'd better be really really sure the book is wrong. It's better to wait for the experts, like Susannah, and play it safe.
How far back is "from the past"? E.g., I see some of Sharon Kay Penman's books on this list -- they're great historical fiction of course, but Penman is a contemporary author, even if some of the books placed on this list have been out quite a while. Also, her books (IMHO, at least) don't necessarily qualify as "worthy of being rediscovered" ... almost all of them are bestsellers and never went out of print.That all said: GREAT list indeed!
Also: I notice the list is starting to be stuffed with the likes of Austen, Bronte and Dickens. I'd personally have no qualms about removing those (clearly contemporary writing when first published) -- Sir Walter Scott is a different matter, of course.
Themis-Athena wrote: "Also: I notice the list is starting to be stuffed with the likes of Austen, Bronte and Dickens. I'd personally have no qualms about removing those (clearly contemporary writing when first publishe..."I'm wondering how Charlotte's Web, Heidi and Peter Name to name three got on the list. *shrugs*
Misfit wrote: "Themis-Athena wrote: "Also: I notice the list is starting to be stuffed with the likes of Austen, Bronte and Dickens. I'd personally have no qualms about removing those (clearly contemporary writi..."Do you want any books to be removed? As you specified very clearly in the list description what should NOT be added, librarians would be on the safe side at the very least deleting those books that are squarely within the "contemporaneous when written" category you expressly mentioned as books not to be added.
I'd like to see more opinions from others who have voted on this list, as my original description wasn't clear enough.
Misfit wrote: "I'd like to see more opinions from others who have voted on this list, as my original description wasn't clear enough."I think your description was quite clear enough - I just think the people who added those particular books didn't read it!
No: Austen, Dickens, Hardy (even though Oliver Twist could just about be called "historical", it's hardly unknown) - Penman, for the reasons given above - even GWTW is hardly unknown, is it?
I think I need to clarify some more and then clean this list up. I love Penman, but a book that hasn't been out of print should not belong here, nor shoulda recently published historical like By Fire, By Water.
The Wild Reel by Paul Brandon is an urban fantasy with a contemporary setting and was written in 2004. It's a good book but nothing about it makes it suitable for this list as far as I can see.
Aerulan wrote: "The Wild Reel by Paul Brandon is an urban fantasy with a contemporary setting and was written in 2004. It's a good book but nothing about it makes it suitable for this list as far as ..."Thank you.
I haven't voted/added any of the Georgette Heyer novels, but here in the Netherlands the Dutch translations have been out of print for years. Such a shame... And not all of her historical novels were available in a Dutch translation anyway. So glad I'm able to read the English ones :-)
@MisfitThere are several books on this list that shouldn't be here, given your description (as you undoubtedly know?).
Rebecca, To Kill a Mockingbird, Anne of Green Gables, Frenchman's Creek. Pride and Prejudice, Jamaica Inn, Gone with the Wind, Kristin Lavransdatter, Forever Amber, and so on and so forth, are all readily available/definitely not out of print.
Not to mention the fact that I noticed some voters seem to have trouble understanding the concept 'historical' :-0
Booklovinglady wrote: "@MisfitThere are several books on this list that shouldn't be here, given your description (as you undoubtedly know?).
Rebecca, To Kill a Mockingbird, [book:Anne of G..."
I kno w. When i first created the list the rules weren't clear. I might clean house a bit.
Misfit wrote: "I might clean house a bit..."Please do... ;-) I really liked the idea of this list, you see.
Here we go. Removed: historical novels readily available, well known and in print.Katherine, The Far Pavilions, Gone with the Wind, Green Darkness, Forever Amber, The Sunne in Splendour,.
Books removed that are not within the definition of the list, i.e. written as contemporary, not historical fiction.The Magnificent Ambersons, To Kill a Mockingbird, Anne of Green Gables, Pride and Prejudice, The Moonspinners, The House on the Strand, Nine Coaches Waiting, Charlotte's Web, Madam, Will You Talk?, Black Beauty.
More later, I have to go vacuum the two rooms now abandoned by the kitties.
Misfit wrote: "Books removed that are not within the definition of the list, i.e. written as contemporary, not historical fiction.The Magnificent Ambersons, To Kill a Mockingbird, [boo..."
[book:And Then There Were None|16299], Heidi, Murder on the Orient Express, Persuasian, The Ivy Tree, Wildfire at MidnightAirs Above the Ground, Thornyhold, The Gabriel Hounds, Touch Not the Cat, Animal Farm, This Rough Magic, Doctor Zhivago (contemporary novel), Alice in Wonderland, Mansfield Park, Don't Look Now and Other Stories, Rose Cottage, Peter Pan, Death on the Nile, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Thunder on the RightGrimm's Fairy Tales, Cat on a Hot Tin Roof, Peril at End House, Flambards, The Pit and the Pendulum, Lad: A Dog, Lord of the Flies, The Time Machine, The Glass Menagerie, My Brother Michael.
Misfit wrote: "Books removed that are not within the definition of the list, i.e. written as contemporary, not historical fiction...."You have been busy... :-) Thanks! I have a few more for you:
In a Dark Wood Wandering (#79). Great historical novel by the Dutch author Hella S. Haasse, but still in print, both in Dutch and in English.
Lolita (#60)
Tess of the D'Urbervilles (#38)
The Good Soldier (#36)
Vanity Fair (#41)
The Grapes of Wrath (#47)
Kristin Lavransdatter (#12)
Villette (#81)
War and Peace (#95)
Rebecca (#1)
Frenchman's Creek (#2)
Jamaica Inn (#5)
Rule Britannia (#136)
Ivanhoe (#23)
Waverley (#185)
Ethan Frome (#102)
The Forsyte Saga (#143)
The Glass Palace (#265)
The Old Man and the Sea (#229)
Dragonwyck (#26)
All of the above are still in print, and as they are all considered classics, I very much doubt if they will ever be out of print. A lot of them are (re)printed by well-known publishers (no 'print-on-demand') like Penguin, Vintage, HarperCollins, Random House, Little, Brown Book, Hodder & Stoughton, and so on. The above books are all on my 'read/to read' list, which is why they were so easy for me to find in your Listopia :-)
I thought I had a good chance with Dragonwyck, as the Dutch edition has been out of print for years (I inherited a copy from my grandparents), but when I checked, the English edition turns out to be readily availabe (Hodder & Stoughton / Mariner).
Would you like me to remove the above titles for you (or will you remove them yourself)? Or would you like these books to stay on the list anyway?
I found one to vote on; the Angelique series! Boy, did I love these books :-) I must have read them all, years ago when I borrowed them from our local library. And yes, I was hooked on the television series too :-)I also noticed The Thorn Birds (#27) but when I checked it turned out to be still in print (Little, Brown Book / Hodder & Stoughton).
Carrie by Stephen King is on this list as well (#101) but it is still being published.
Also noticed the separate parts of Kristin Lavransdatter, The Wreath (#71), The Wife (#87), The Cross (#77), but those are still in print too.
Booklovinglady wrote: "Misfit wrote: "Edit away, I ran out of time yesterday. We are making progress."All gone ;-)"
Making progress. There are still some books that aren't historical still to be pruned, but that will take time and research. I'm going back to bed now :)
Misfit wrote: "..."It's only end of the morning here :-) but I have to go out later on though.
I'll also remove Quo Vadis, as it is still very much in print.
Misfit wrote: "4AM here. Still trying to get back to sleep :/"Hope that won't happen to me tonight, as I'm working tomorrow ;-)
I absolutely adore this list! Just started the Far Pavilions after hunting it down through second hand bookstores and am just adoring it so far. Can't wait to work my way through!Edit: So I just saw the edits, and I honestly think it's unfortunate that so many of the books that did not fit the criteria were removed, the list introduced me to many so called "well known" titles that I had never heard of before and was excited to try! Thank you for recording any edits you made, I'll look through them first i think.
starryskies wrote: "Thank you for recording any edits you made, I'll look through them first i think. ..."I always mention links to books I deleted, and I know several other librarians do too :-)
Georgette Heyer's books are unfortunately out of print in a Dutch translation, and have been out of print for a long time (and only 12 or so were translated in the past anyway).
I Capture the Castle (#11 ) was not an historical novel at the time of publication. Neither were To Kill a Mockingbird (#48), East of Eden (#74), Of Mice and Men (#98) and several others. Not even to mention the fact that they can hardly be called 'a newly discovered treasure'.... (and the description does say "Looking for something old that could be a newly discovered treasure?")














