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Histories of the American frontier experience: settlers, Indians, cowboys, explorers, outlaws, soldiers, lawmen, prospectors, pioneer women, etc. For non-fiction only, or at least legends that have become the truth, or truth that has become a legend.
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message 1: by David (new)

David Thanks everybody for voting! I wanted to share my love of American history and I'm glad to see others are interested too.


Themis-Athena (Lioness at Large) It's a great list ... so are the others you recently created!


message 3: by David (new)

David Thanks! I just discovered listopia, and it sort of dovetails into my obsessions: books and lists.


Themis-Athena (Lioness at Large) It does that for a lot of us ... welcome to the club! :)


message 5: by Wanda (new)

Wanda TA, would this book fit into the list criteria:

Angle of Repose


Themis-Athena (Lioness at Large) Wanda wrote: "TA, would this book fit into the list criteria:

Angle of Repose"


I didn't create the list but I have a feeling it's for nonfiction only. Alas ... because otherwise I'd be the first to add Angle of Repose ... I LOVE Stegner's writing, both fiction and non, and that book in particular!!


message 7: by Wanda (new)

Wanda That is why I hesitated to add it.


Themis-Athena (Lioness at Large) David -- your list; your call! :)


Susanna - Censored by GoodReads I suspect as well that it's for non-fiction only; the tags would indicate that.


message 10: by David (new)

David Yes, I envisioned this as a non-fiction list. But I like non-traditional Westerns. There's a Best Westerns (books, not motels) list. But maybe an outlier like this might get lost. Maybe its time for a new list, something for fresh angles on the West. Writers of the Purple Rage anyone?


message 11: by Wanda (new)

Wanda Sorry. Did not notice the tags.


message 12: by David (new)

David No worries. I think making a comment gets a worthy book more attention. I'll have a look at Angle of Repose (at some point, my TBR pile has just grown after a trip to Books-a-Million & Half Price Books on successive days).


message 13: by Elisabeth (new)

Elisabeth Great list! I created a similar one recently, but devoted specifically to first-person accounts from the West (memoirs, letters, diaries etc.): http://www.goodreads.com/list/show/21...


message 14: by David (new)

David Excellent list, Elisabeth! I added a few first person accounts. To be honest, Vaquero of the Brush Country has interpolations by Dobie. And Buffalo Bill's bio was ghost written. But Vaquero is factual, and Buffalo Bill is sort of factual. Well, you know how it is, when the legend is printed as fact, vote for it.


message 15: by Julie (new)

Julie The Last Letter is fiction and doesn't belong on the list.


Susanna - Censored by GoodReads Where is it on the list?


message 17: by Michele (new)

Michele Is this list supposed to be non-fiction? Just wondering.


message 18: by David (new)

David Yes it is. I'm pretty lazy about cleaning it up. I ought to make a pass and clear out the fiction, but it's just been a low priority. If people have added fiction, please take a few minutes to delete them. I will probably sweep through and clear out the fiction before long.

I will update the description to be a bit clearer. I do like Western fiction too (I write it after all). But this list was for me to boost the history books that were so important to my personal library and let others do the same.


message 19: by Michele (last edited Mar 04, 2017 03:51PM) (new)

Michele I am not a goodreads liberain, but I can find a few fiction on here and list them, if that would help. I just joined your list and got two new books on here...Was looking for ideas for future reading.


Susanna - Censored by GoodReads If y'all spot fiction on there, just list it with its position on the list (easier to remove).


message 21: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (last edited Mar 04, 2017 04:47PM) (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads Removed, for being fiction:

Tom Sawyer, by Mark Twain

I question Krakatoa's presence. While non-fiction, the vast majority of it has nothing to do with American history.


message 22: by Michele (last edited Mar 04, 2017 06:19PM) (new)

Michele #19 - Fools Crow by James Welch - fiction
#54 - Sarah, Plain and Tall (Sarah, Plain and Tall, #1) by Patricia MacLachlan - also fiction
#92 - The Last Letter (Letter #1) by Kathleen Shoop - fiction
#92 - Knight of the Purple Ribbon by Jennifer Leigh Wells - more fiction
# 92 - Fire Wind (The Wind Drifters, #1) by Guy S. Stanton III - fiction
#92 - An Unexpected Widow (The Colorado Brides #1) by Carré White - fiction
#92 - Chief of Thieves by Steven W. Kohlhagen - fiction
#92 - The Practical Jokers by Richard A. Davis - looks like fiction


message 23: by Michele (last edited Mar 04, 2017 06:22PM) (new)

Michele #114 - Locomotive by Brian Floca - fiction for children
#114 - An Unexpected Bride (The Co... An Unexpected Bride (The Colorado Brides #2) by Carré White - fiction
#114- Prairie by Anna Lee Waldo - fiction
#114 - How the West Was Won - by Louis L'Amour - great writer, but fiction
#129 - An Unexpected Annulment (The Colorado Brides #3) - more fiction
#129 - The Littlest Hero by Dan Vanderburg - fiction
#140 - Sweetgrass by Jan Hudson - fiction
#140 - An Unexpected Mother (The Colorado Brides #4) by Carré White - still fiction!


message 24: by David (new)

David I guess I'm not a librarian, so I can't remove anything.


Susanna - Censored by GoodReads Removed:

Fool's Crow
Sarah, Plain and Tall
The Last Letter
Knight of the Purple Ribbon
Fire Wind
An Unexpected Widow
Chief of Thieves
The Practical Jokers
Legacy of Dreams [fiction]
Give Us this Valley [fiction]
The Blessing Stone [fiction]
Locomotive
An Unexpected Bride
How the West Was Won
Trail of Hope [fiction]
Prairie
My Great-Aunt Arizona [children's picture book/historical fiction]
An Unexpected Annulment
The Littlest Hero
Sweetgrass
An Unexpected Mother
An Unexpected Love [fiction]
Sing Down the Moon [YA fiction]
Bride of the Wild [fiction]
The Christmas Miracle of Jonathan Toomey [picture book/children's historical fiction]
The Man From Cripple Creek [fiction]
Cassie [fiction]
Wild Wild Widow [fiction]
Black Nile: Mungo Park And The Search For The Niger [Mungo Park's explorations were in Africa, as is the Niger.]

In addition, I did not remove, but do question, non-fiction about Thomas Alva Edison, Andrew Carnegie, and Robert E. Lee, among others.


message 27: by Michele (new)

Michele Nice Job, Susanna! Hope my list helped you out!


Susanna - Censored by GoodReads It was very helpful; thank you.


message 29: by Michele (last edited Mar 05, 2017 02:49PM) (new)

Michele Questions on a few books:

#55 - Krakatoa: The Day the World Exploded - by Simon Winchester - Does it really belong on this list? Krakatoa, while being a large eruption had no where near the impact of Tambora in 1815. Tambora's clouds caused world wide cooling, loss of crops and the "Year without a Summer" in 1816.

#102- The Last Cheater's Waltz: Beauty and Violence in the Desert Southwest by Ellen Meloy - Not really a " frontier " book since its set in the mid-20th century.

#155 - The Wave: In Pursuit of the Rogues, Freaks, and Giants of the Ocean by Susan Casey - not about the historical frontier, but a book on rouge waves and other types of waves.

#173 - Electrified Sheep: Glass-Eating Scientists, Nuking the Moon, and More Bizarre Experiments by Alex Boese - Seems to be more of a science book?

Do any of these belong on this list?


message 30: by David (new)

David I'd have to say no on Krakatoa, The Wave, and Electrified Sheep for sure. I'll look at Last Cheater's Waltz, but it sounds like a stretch.


message 31: by David (new)

David Thanks very much for your help with this.


message 32: by David (new)

David I'd say to let Last Cheater's Waltz stay. It's not exactly the Old West of the movies, but it's subject is the changes wrought by the Manhattan Project in the Southwest. I am willing to include something like that for the sake of expanding horizons, which is what I hope to achieve with this list. The a-bomb builders were pioneers on a different, but no less Western frontier.

One of my favorite works of Southwestern history is Tularosa: Last of the Frontier West by CL Sonnichsen. He deliberately links the pioneers of the covered wagon age to the pioneers of the space age which seemed to involve some interesting thinking about the frontier. So in that vein, let's keep Last Cheaters.


message 33: by David (new)

David Robert E Lee served in the Mexican War as well as frontier posts in Texas. It's a bit of a stretch, but perhaps enough. Not so sure about Edison's and Carnegie's contributions specifically to the frontier experience. I'd have to think about those more.


message 34: by Michele (new)

Michele This list is in much better shape now that Susanna did a sweep and got fiction purged off. Much easier to look for new books to read.


message 35: by Bob (new)

Bob Van Arsdale David wrote: "Robert E Lee served in the Mexican War as well as frontier posts in Texas. It's a bit of a stretch, but perhaps enough. Not so sure about Edison's and Carnegie's contributions specifically to the f..."

David,

I'm responsible for the additons of the Robert E. Lee biographies, as well as those of Carnegie, Fulton, and Perry. My view is that the American frontier moved from east to west as time progressed. My comments in the "Why You Added This Book" feature attempt to explain my reasoning for the additions, but I'm not wedded to any of them, so please remove as you see fit. "Electrified Sheep", for example, was added for its lengthy discussions about Benjamin Franklin's pre-revolutionary experiments with electricity, Crawford Long's experiment in anesthesizing a patient with ether in 1842, and Horace Wells' and William Morton's experiments with nitrous oxide in the 4 years that followed. My reason for adding "The Black Nile" had nothing to do with the Niger River's location in Africa, nor with Mungo Park's African journeys, but rather the book's discussions of the slave trade between west Africa and the Americas in the late 18th and early 19th centuries, as well as the discussion of Scotsman Hugh Clapperton's near-marriage to an Amerindian princess. Similarly, my addition of Meloy's "Last Cheater's Waltz had nothing to do with the Manhattan Project, but rather her discussions of the shape-shifting Navajo skinwalkers and her observations on petroglyphs and pit houses. All just FYI, I don't want to clutter this list with anything deemed irrelevant or inappropriate.


message 36: by Chris (new)

Chris Gager Lonesome Dove - 150 = fiction


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