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Feb 15, 2011 05:52AM
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Does the Song of The Lioness series by Tamora Pierce really have sex in it? cuz that's in the kids section of my library.
im pretty sure they didnt have sex in shiver it was in the 3th one possibly the 2ed one but not the main characters grace and sam
Liz wrote: "im pretty sure they didnt have sex in shiver it was in the 3th one possibly the 2ed one but not the main characters grace and sam"i read the book a couple days ago...they do have sex but its short and doesnt go into detail
Claire wrote: "Liz wrote: "im pretty sure they didnt have sex in shiver it was in the 3th one possibly the 2ed one but not the main characters grace and sam"i read the book a couple days ago...they do have sex ..."
not in shiver they just slept in the same bed
Great that the adult books mentioned (Book#2 of the Night Huntress Series is still listed) in the comment section are no longer on the list, but now some of the titles from the Kate Daniels' series by Ilona Andrews is now on the list. And technically Daughter of the Forest by Juliet Marillier isn't YA, either (although it is a wonderful book and is fine read for teens). I read Shiver awhile back, and I don't recall any sex in it.
Amethyst1 wrote: "Great that the adult books mentioned (Book#2 of the Night Huntress Series is still listed) in the comment section are no longer on the list, but now some of the titles from the Kate Daniels' series..."thank you thats what i said in shiver they only slept in the same bed
Jessica wrote: "Does the Song of The Lioness series by Tamora Pierce really have sex in it? cuz that's in the kids section of my library."Yea I read this series when I was younger (maybe like 10 years ago?) and remember feeling pretty sneaky about it. I'm not sure if I read it now if it would still seem as scandalous, but there are definitely descriptions about feelings and desires emerging from young love.
Samantha wrote: "Jessica wrote: "Does the Song of The Lioness series by Tamora Pierce really have sex in it? cuz that's in the kids section of my library."Yea I read this series when I was younger (maybe like 10 ..."
oh okay thank you!
Liz wrote: "Amethyst1 wrote: "Great that the adult books mentioned (Book#2 of the Night Huntress Series is still listed) in the comment section are no longer on the list, but now some of the titles from the Ka..."They absolutely did have sex in Shiver. I have only read the first book in the series so far so I know I am not confusing it with the other 2 books. Plus I just read it last week and I remember it clearly.
IMO Beautiful Disaster is not YA. I know it is listed as YA, but it feels adult to me.
Jessica wrote: "Does Iron Queen really?"Yes they do. Although it is extremely vague with no detail, you at least know it happened.
I've added The Ballad of Young Tam Lin https://www.createspace.com/3661637, or as a Kindle download. It works as older YA. Since Lady Janet Dunbar starts as a virgin, and ends up pregnant, I'd say there's sex in it, but nothing is graphic or spelled out - you just can figure out that once the kissing slows down so the clothes can come off, they're not going to do the laundry. It's a great read for older YA, or any adult with romance in their hearts, and a yearning for something magical in the universe.
Rebecca wrote: "Jessica wrote: "Does Iron Queen really?"Yes they do. Although it is extremely vague with no detail, you at least know it happened."
Oh man, cuz I heard that it didn't.
Yeah, "Beautiful Disaster" by Jamie McGuire really isn't a YA novel. Just because the protagonist is 18/19 (and her love interest is 20/21) doesn't always make it YA. A good chunk of the novel doesn't really much even relate to the average teenager.
Amethyst raises an interesting issue. What does the "average teenager" relate to? Which teenager? Where? When I was a teen, NONE of the people I hung out with were "average," yet none of them were the same in their deviations from the norm. Two guys were heavy stoners. Another was an engineer at the local independent radio station. I was a theater geek. One girl who hung out with us sometimes was a cheerleader (still don't know how that happened.) What was "average?" Is YA only the concerns of suburban white teens - the prom, catching a boyfriend, deciding when to do "IT?" How, then, does YA fanatasy fit in?
Or are we talking about adolescent universals - "I'm lonely, I'm confused, I'm abnormal?" If that is what the "average teenager" can relate to, than the field becomes huge. And then we get to the issue of who is making the definitions of what YA is, and how it works, and, ultimately, do we (consumers) want those definitions to lie only in the hands of publishers and critics?
Or are we talking about adolescent universals - "I'm lonely, I'm confused, I'm abnormal?" If that is what the "average teenager" can relate to, than the field becomes huge. And then we get to the issue of who is making the definitions of what YA is, and how it works, and, ultimately, do we (consumers) want those definitions to lie only in the hands of publishers and critics?
Relating to my post above, I'm curious - what books did you enjoy when you were in the YA range that were NOT YA? For me, The Lord of the Rings, Penguin Island (Anatole France), 3 Men in a Boat (Jerome K. Jerome), A Tale of Two Cities, and Pride and Prejudice (among many others). I also read YA crap, like the Heinlein "manhood" adventure books (Starman Jones, Starship Troopers).
I just read XVI by Julia Karr and it doesn't have sex in it. They talk about it a lot in the book (it's a big issue), but the actual act never happens.
Courtney wrote: "I'm so glad this list is here. Now I know what NOT to read..."A few of them are mistakes, which is unfortunate. But I keep this list up-to-date whenever I read something with sex. For ppl like you as well as or parents who want to know before letting their kids read them.
OpinionatedMe wrote: "I just read XVI by Julia Karr and it doesn't have sex in it. They talk about it a lot in the book (it's a big issue), but the actual act never happens."It could be that whoever added it thought the content was explicit enough to still warrant a warning.
Rebecca ♥ Ash, Jem, Kishan ♥ wrote: "Courtney wrote: "I'm so glad this list is here. Now I know what NOT to read..."A few of them are mistakes, which is unfortunate. But I keep this list up-to-date whenever I read something with sex..."
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Thank you! It's mainly for me...and I'm 29. This genre is really starting to push the envelope and I'm getting angry about it. I am trying to let the publishers understand that there needs to be a raiting system in place so that parents and anyone else who wants to read these novels knows beforehand what they are reading. It only makes since since video games, movies etc. have a raiting system...why not books for teens?!?
Courtney wrote: "Rebecca ♥ Ash, Jem, Kishan ♥ wrote: "Courtney wrote: "I'm so glad this list is here. Now I know what NOT to read..."A few of them are mistakes, which is unfortunate. But I keep this list up-to-da..."
Absolutely true. They really should.
There are lots of books on here that aren't YA. Are people just putting their favourite books up or what? This is a good list, but the ones that have put Fifty Shades of "I'm not going to read it" shouldn't be putting this book on this list. It's adult, along with The Black Dagger Brotherhood. And if there isn't sex in the book (like some of the above people have mentioned) don't vote for it, because you're misleading people.
LanHua wrote: "50 Shades of Grey is most definitely not a Young Adult book..."My thoughts exactly i could not believe it was in here!!
Rebecca ♥ Ash, Four, Peeta ♥ wrote: "Liz wrote: "Amethyst1 wrote: "Great that the adult books mentioned (Book#2 of the Night Huntress Series is still listed) in the comment section are no longer on the list, but now some of the titles..."Yes. I remember they did. (In Shiver)
SweetSwan wrote: "lol I think the sex in Twilight saga was book 4 only."
I think so too.
I think so too.
AngielovesYA wrote: "SweetSwan wrote: "lol I think the sex in Twilight saga was book 4 only."I think so too."
It for sure was only book 4. And it didn't ever go into detail...and they were married!
Courtney wrote: "AngielovesYA wrote: "SweetSwan wrote: "lol I think the sex in Twilight saga was book 4 only."
I think so too."
It for sure was only book 4. And it didn't ever go into detail...and they were marr..."
So, not really YA in that sense.
I think so too."
It for sure was only book 4. And it didn't ever go into detail...and they were marr..."
So, not really YA in that sense.
There is no sex in Onyx. Ok, the main characters sleep in the same bed and sometimes they get somewhat close to having it (kissing, touching etc) - but it never happens. It's like Twilight books one and 2. The side characters Dee and Adam have sex, but it isn't ever described. Dee just claims: "yes, we had sex" and that's all you'll ever hear about it.
Marie wrote: "There is no sex in Onyx. Ok, the main characters sleep in the same bed and sometimes they get somewhat close to having it (kissing, touching etc) - but it never happens. It's like Twilight books on..."Katy and Daemon definitely have had sex. Although I think it was in Opal.
Avalon wrote: "eISBN 9781783069439. ASIN BOOCJM4MKG Yet goodreads can't find the book. Should be on this list"The Disappearing Snake...?
Born at Midnight doesn't have sex in it either. Sure Della has said that she's done it. But that's it.
Nicole wrote: "Grave Mercy has sex in it?"I think so. Its a bit confusing. Sometimes they are super subtle about it because its YA and they dont want to be too graphic. But with Grave Mercy, I think they went a little too subtle.
This is immediately after she found him in the tunnels nearly dead and she saved him.
"As I slip out of the rough, dark gown, I realize I have only the vaguest idea of how a woman lies with a man. even so, I cast my shift aside and gently push Duval back down — it takes no effort at all. Slowly, I lower my body onto his so that every part of us is touching."
Super sutble it definitely is. I knew they were naked in this scene but I don't think they actually had sex as she needed him and herself to have skin to skin contact so she could save him from the poison that was killing him slowly. Because her abilities are that her body is likened to a bezoar stone that neutrelizes poisons.Though you are right, that paragraph was writren in such a vague way and it makes you interpret it in asuch a way, personally what do you think?
Nicole wrote: "Super sutble it definitely is. I knew they were naked in this scene but I don't think they actually had sex as she needed him and herself to have skin to skin contact so she could save him from the..."Well, I thought they did. I dont know, but he seemed to already be getting better before she took her dress off, and they were kissing very passionately.
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