This list ranks the best war novels.
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Just scanned the list and removed four nonfiction/memoir:1. WAR by Sebastian Junger
2. The Civil War: A Narrative by Shelby Foote
3. Arizona Savagery: An Indian History of the New American West by Seals
4. The Forgotten Soldier by Sajer.
5. Dispatches by Herr.
Roy wrote: "'Coming Home' by Roy E Stolworthy, was entered and voted for on a number of occasions this list, so where is it now and what happened to it."Don't know. I typically will only remove nonfiction. Someone else may have removed it, but ... not me.
Jacob wrote: "Ender's Game is NOT a war novel! Nor is it a novel, it is crap."If I started to judge what is or isn't war I could write a book. I also won't remove a book simple because it is crap. Sorry. Hopefully, a crappy book just moves down the ranks eventually.
Removed Devil's Guard. While it may be fictional (really bad history), it was presented as being historical and not a novel.
Roy wrote: "How can someone else remove 'Coming Home' Is it the same list, I do remember a line of numbers in the link and can it ne re-entered."Roy, any librarian can delete books from the list that are totally miscategorized. Hence, I only remove books that are put here that are history/biography. I don't know who removed your book or when or if it was ever on the list. And honestly, I really don't care enough to track it down or fix.
If you want your book on the list, put it here (although that is a bit self-promoting and borders on BBA). If people think it should rank high, it will get the votes. I'm not sure what you want more, besides a bit of attention for your book. Your time is probably better spent working on a new book, IMHO.
Roy wrote: "What an attitude. It is obvious my time would be better spent not messing about with Goodreads, which is pretty much a waste of time."Roy, I'm not here to entertain you, boost your confidence, or promote (or even read) your book. I'm sorry if it got deleted off a list I give minimum attention to. If you want it back on the list, put it back on the list. If not, move on.
Roy wrote: "If you are anything to go by I think I will move on from goodreads."I am the most charming part of Goodreads. Good luck voting on and rating your own novels.
Well, there is your 5-star rating of Coming Home, your 5-star reviews (yes you actually managed to give one of your own books 10 TOTAL STARS) of Hidden in Plain View is, ahem, still in "plain view", as is your 5-star reviews of All In and The Dancing Boy.I mean, that is a little low-brow. It is like being one of those pageant mothers, but you are both the dancing girl AND her mother. In the future, I would just stick with quid pro quo 5 & 4-star reviews on Amazon and Goodreads with other self-published authors like:
Margaret Tanner
Lisa Williamsson
JC Allen
Lisa Williamson
Rebecca Stroud
James Anderson
Joanne Mazzotta
Again, I'm sorry your book isn't on my list. I didn't take it off. But I see that you've managed to push your book all the way upto SEVEN on the Great War list, beating out classics like:
Johnny Got His Gun
The Collected Poems of Wilfred Owen
The Good Soldier Švejk
Seven Pillars of Wisdom: A Triumph
You are right on the heels of:
Goodbye to All That
All's Quiet on the Western Front, and
A Farewell to Arms
Come on Roy, you need to encourage more of your self-published, self-promoting crowd to vote you up the list.
BTW, you can't "troll" your own thread.
Roy wrote: "The book in question was not rated by me nor voted for, ggodbye goodreads."Tell me honestly Roy - Doesn't it fill you with a tiny bit of shame that you are essentially cheating on trivial lists against dead authors, some of which ACTUALLY died during the GREAT WAR?
Didn't you imagine that readers with just a bit of historical and literary perspective would immediately spot something wrong, and see you actually DON'T belong in a Top 10 next to Hemingway or Wilfred Owen? Are you not even a bit self-aware? I mean T.E. Lawrence was a bit of a self-promoter too, but he also had a ton of talent.
A pit somewhere? Roy, that is a great idea for a book. Why don't you write it. You can then give it 5-stars, have your editor review it, have your self-publishing friends review it (in exchange for reviewing their tripe), and then bitch and moan about your book not being on my list. It sounds like a blockbuster idea for sure.BTW, "Coming Home" IS, nominally, a traditionally published book (all the rest of your books are self-published, no?). It appears to be doing quite well (#4,010,269 in Amazon Books; does that translate to .01 books per week or .001 books per week?). But you might just be riding the 100th anniversary of WWI publishing wave. Kuddos!
Roy wrote: "So, it would seem T.H.Lawrence is you next target. Did you know I once met the late King Feisal who fought the Turks with Lawrence..."BTW, I think you are mixing up T.E. Lawrence (of Arabia) with D.H. Lawrence (of Lady Chatterley).
Details are important in writing (so is punctuation and spelling) Roy -- AND in thinking AND debating.
Also, logic is important. Why would you meeting King Feisal shame me? Because he fought with T.E. Lawrence? Is greatness transferable: T.E. Lawrence >> King Feisal >> YOU? And even if greatness was like an STD, how would that exactly shame me?
I have plenty of respect for those who fought, some respect for those who write, little repsect for those who cheat (and even less for those who can't even cheat well).You come on my post all pissed that someone took your book off my list (which, BTW, wasn't the case).
All evidence points to the fact that you are unethically trying to promote your book: 1. giving yourself stars, 2. trading stars with other writers, 3. pushing your book up lists using similar tactics, etc).
I have been a bit sharp, yes, but I don't think nasty. Maybe what you need is someone who tells you that your retirement would be more productively spent playing with vegetables than words.
Anyway, I'm glad your book is doing so well on your own, small, private island of friends.
This is the greatest thread I've read in some time. Ah, the shames of egotism! A great list too, by the way.
BTW, here are another handful of Roy's "Bad Behaving Author Friends":1. John Hanley - ranked Coming Home 1 of 1 - self-published.
2. Paul Cude - ranked Coming Home 1 of 1 - self-published.
3. Dab10 - ranked Comign Home 1 of 1 - author of Karmic Krackers
4. Leonardo Ramirez - ranked Coming Home 1 of 1 - self-published.
5. Danielle DeVor - ranked Coming Home 1 of 1 - self-published.
6. Dianne Harman - ranked Coming Home 1 of 1 - self-published.
7. Melodie Ramone - ranked Coming Home 1 of 1 - self-published.
8. Elizabeth Marx - ranked Coming Home 1 of 1 - self-published.
9. Karen Prince - ranked Coming Home 1 of 1 - self-published.
10. Murielle Cyr - ranked Coming Home 1 of 1 - self-published.
11. Janna Yeshanova - ranked Coming Home 1 of 1 - self-published.
12. Jams N. Roses - ranked Coming Home 1 of 1 - self-published.
13. Shane K.P. O'Neill - ranked Coming Home 1 of 1 - self-published.
14. Rhonda Patton/Chester McDaniel - ranked Coming Home 1 of 1 - self-published.
I can understand Roy, but even Dab10 can't be trusted?! Oh, what a world, what a world! I understand wanting people to read your book. Time and soul end up in bound between pages and dammit someone should at least endure it if not enjoy it. But comiserating with others into artificially garner acclaim to further readership is clumsy and low. It's the literary equivalent of a pop-up ad.
Yeah. That is kinda how I feel. It is like reviewing your own novel with a nom de guerre. Really? You couldn't put it down? You f-ing WROTE it!
Hey, maybe he couldn't put it down because it was so riddled with spelling errors? Regardless, we're all going to end up with egg on our collective faces when Roy becomes the next (even more humorless) D.H. Lawrence.
I don't think you weren't sufficiently nice and patient with Roy, proving that you are the most charming part of GoodReads. What I don't understand is how he doesn't get the overall rhetorical effect of his actions. His work might be good, but one whiff of this sort of behavior and I automatically think CRAPWRITER, a hasty judgement that shall not be erased, as that could only happen by 1) my reading his book, and 2) thinking it's great, and 2 ain't gonna happen cuz 1 isn't bcuz, you know, CRAPWRITER.As I posted elsewhere somewhere regarding this, I bet you anything that somewhere there is a self-pubbers discussion group where they post calls for list-votes they all participate in as a supportive community giving needed attention to undervalued books they haven't read.
Gregsamsa wrote: "I bet you anything that somewhere there is a self-pubbers discussion group where they post calls for list-votes they all participate in as a supportive community giving needed attention to undervalued books they haven't read."Oh, definitely. Sometimes they're even in public view because the authors aren't 'net savvy enough to realize anyone can see their comments. Like that thing with Maggie Spence arranging with other self-pubbed authors to vote up all each others' books on every list.
The Seven Pillars of Wisdom (or the abridged version Revolt in the Desert) are non-fiction, although his detractors have accused T E Lawrence of greatly exaggerating his role in the events.Maybe a companion list of great non fiction war books.
Lobstergirl wrote: "Deena wrote: "Night is not a novel."Agree, removed."
Thank you. I thought about it, but I've never removed a book from someone else's list, so even though the inability of people to remember the definition of "novel" is one of my pet peeves, I didn't do it...
Some works are borderline, but many more people shelved it as nonfiction and memoir than as fiction, all the newspapers called it a memoir, so that one didn't seem like a close call. But you will notice that many, many people on GR don't understand the distinction between fiction/nonfiction, novel/memoir, etc.
Lobstergirl wrote: "But you will notice that many, many people on GR don't understand the distinction between fiction/nonfiction, novel/memoir, etc."Oh, I've noticed. I usually just stick to sci-fi fantasy lists and avoid the problem altogether, because it really does aggravate me - but that's my problem, not other people's. I'm a history educator, and I never feel like I should inflict my professional stuff on other folks.
Yeah me too. Lobstergirl and Deena, I only check this page occasionally so if you find nonfiction or memoir please feel free to delete. You aren't going to step on my toes one bit.
Please help me find a book about war and romance where the main character fights in the two world wars and dies in the war of korea, in the book he almost loses the woman he loved because of the war and he seems to have been called the old man in the book
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If This Is a Man / The Truce is nonfiction. (middle of the 2nd page) As is A Long Way Gone: Memoirs of a Boy Soldier and The Diary of a Young Girl (3rd page), as if we needed more Holocaust denial. Night is on the 4th page and If This Is a Man / The Truce is on again on the 5th. The Complete Persepolis is on the 6th.
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Do you want me to remove it, Rob?
ETA: Germany 1945 also appears to be non-fiction.