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Yes!!! I look them up when I see a term I don't recognize. I've been known to spend some time on TV Tropes, wandering around and learning new terms and such.

Good job, Chimney. It's already making more sense. :)

Chimney wrote: "Thanks! :)

Jennifer, I will put together a list of terms.:)"

Thank you!!

Oooh, this is interesting and helpful. Explain H/C to me. Is that like a subgenre or just common lingo?

I like where this is going. Please do tell me more about H/C, and MPreg.

Now, some of these sound like genre's of fanfiction, while others are just common terms, am I right? Are there examples for these, too?

Could we include some of the more Japanese terms and genre's as well, like Bishonen, Bishoujo, and Doujinshi?

Is it possible to add some Yuri examples? I'm more likely to read Yuri, Shojo-ai and Gender Bending.

Cry. Cry. Tear. Boo-Hoo. You didn't mention BLEACH 1: Strawberry and the Soul Reapers in the Shounen category !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Well, at least you didn't mention that Naruto, Vol. 1: The Tests of the Ninja stuff, there, either !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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Chimney wrote: "Kay Lotus wrote: "Oooh, this is interesting and helpful. Explain H/C to me. Is that like a subgenre or just common lingo?"

Jennifer wrote: "I like where this is going. Please do tell me more about..."

Yes, I think it would be a good idea to separate these into different categories or threads. I didn't realize just how many terms one has to catch up on with this, but its becoming more clear to me now. Thank you so much for this!

Sorry to not have any examples of it, but Komodo is Children/Family Anime.

Lashya wrote: "Cry. Cry. Tear. Boo-Hoo. You didn't mention BLEACH 1: Strawberry and the Soul Reapers in the Shounen category !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cry. Cry. Tear. Boo-Hoo.
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Is two examples not sufficient enough? Lol. Plus, Bleach and Naruto are all too familiar. It's nice to see Chimney mentioning some versatile selections that I've never read before.

That does look helpful. I just found something similar the other day called Fanlore. Here's the link
http://fanlore.org/wiki/Main_Page

I actually added some Yaoi manga to my giant to-read pile today, based on recommendations: Loveless and Wild Rock. Looking forward to them!
- Hopefully nothing too traumatizing in these.

Also added from previous recs (including from Chimney): Kieli (looks good!), Full Moon O Sagashite, Afterschool Charisma, and Fruits Baskets.

Wild Rock and Kieli are the two I'm leaning towards first. If either of you can recommend other yaoi reads let me know. I love m/m romance.

Thx, Chim, added!
By the way I am ITCHING to read that Hushed book, as soon as I finish my current reads.

I love drawing gender bends. Though I never drew one of myself XD

I read yaoi...alot. But yuri not so much. Though I seen one anime between too females--Strawberry Panic. Though I still didn't finish. I watched the first episode about two years ago.

Chimney wrote: "You're welcome.
I absolutely adored Hushed! I look forward to your thoughts on it. :)"

I just ordered it from B&N! It's printed as ordered and will be in my hot little hands in 3-5 business days. Yeah!

easilyotaku00 wrote: "^I read Wild Rock, and it's pretty innocent for yaoi's standards. Hopefully, you like it!"

Can you recommend something not as innocent? I did pick up Wild Rock though.

Thanks Chimney! I'll check these out. Mpreg sounds WEIRD but what the hell. Why not?

Chimney wrote: "No problem-o! Mpreg is very strange. It usually leaves me thinking, 'wwwwhhhhhaaaaattttttt? and I'm very selective of what I read of it. The first time I read it in fanfiction I had no idea what mp..."

What is "Mpreg" ??????????????????

If you're looking for good yaoi that's you can actually get a hard copy of, I'd recommend ZE, Volume 6 (but not just volume 6 of course, that was just the first link that came up for me) by Yuki Shimizu and Dog Style, Volume 1 by Modoru Motoni. ZE is more fantasy based yaoi, and it doesn't focus on any one couple, but it's a fantastic read. It starts off slow, but keep reading, I think it really hits its stride by the time it gets to the second or third volume. Dog Style is one of my personal favorites and a lot happens even if it's only three volumes. If you're going to go for what's really popular, I'd check out Finder, Volume 1: Target in the Finder, it's probably one of the most popular yaois in the genre.

I couldn't get into Love Pistols though. Male pregnancy kind of ruins the fun for me, and I'm not a fan of the art either.

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Chimney wrote: Mpreg is Male Pregnancy.

Yellow, Volume 01 is also rather popular among yaoi fans. The art in Love Pistols did take me awhile to get used to and it's still not my favorite, bit the romance does hold some interesting concepts. I still need to read Finder! I heard great things about it.

What are you waiting for? :D I'll admit, I totally fangirl Finder like everyone else. Art is fantastic and there's a ton of nose bleed moments. And Asami, Asami...sigh. If you end up liking Finder, I'd also check out Crimson Spell by the same manga-ka. It's a little more fetish-y then Finder, but for me personally, not as bad as Love Pistols. It's a shame I can't get my hands on a hard copy of Crimson Spell since I think the publishing company went defunct. It's like stuck in this licensing limbo. Bleh.

Chimney wrote: "No problem-o! Mpreg is very strange. It usually leaves me thinking, 'wwwwhhhhhaaaaattttttt..."

I do love the things I learn from you, Chimney. Lol
All this weird-ass manga. :)

Lint wrote: "If you're looking for good yaoi that's you can actually get a hard copy of, I'd recommend ZE, Volume 6..."

Thank you! Checking these and other recs out at my comic shop tomorrow.

What about Yuri? Has anyone heard of some good ones?

Good f/f seems hard to find in all genres for some reason. The boys get more love.

I've only read a little fanfic myself. I'm surprised how much of it there is though.

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If you're really looking for some not-tame-at-all yaoi, I'd totally recommend . This books goes everywhere (and I do mean everywhere)that a yaoi relationship can go and it focuses on three pairings so you get different personalities and points of view.

I've recently discovered Bara which is male/male relationships where the males are more muscular and have more masculine features (there doesn't seem to be any concept of the "seme/uke" dynamic that typically appears in yaoi). It's also purportedly designed and targeted to men as opposed to women.

The example I found first (and is really one of the best) is Mentaiko. But be warned--he also has depictions of furry, guro and monster-assault. They aren't typically in his comics, but his gallery does have those sections.

For fanfic terms, there's also the (admittedly odd) trend of calling matsurbation a "Lime" and actual sex a "Lemon". I've seen this primarily on places such as FF.net.

There's also "AU!--" which, of course, means Alernate Universe. These can be (and usually are) for anything. High School AUs, Crime AUs, Fantasy AUs. You name it, it probably exists.

There's "Drabble", which is a very short, concise fic (more of a snapshot-scene really).

There are so many terms for fanfic (and it's still constantly evolving as more terms are added, discarded or discovered/invented) that it's pretty much better to just jump in and absorb the language as you go. It's not hard to pick up terms--usually they become apparent once you read the story.

Oh! And female/female relationships are usually referred to as femslash these days. I think it's because "slash" has been pretty monopolized by the male/male fans.

If we're talking about good Yaoi still, I highly recommend , , , , absolutely anything by Naono Bohra (her English-published books are pretty much limited to Three Wolves Mountain but there are a ton of her other works floating around on the internet), anything by Yoneda Kou (her English-published works include No Touching At All). Finally, you just can't not mention Youka Nitta. She's done Embracing Love, and The Prime Minister's Secret Diplomacy.

Michelle wrote: "I've recently discovered Bara which is male/male relationships where the males are more muscular and have more masculine features (there doesn't seem to be any concept of the "seme/uke" dynamic tha..."

I always thought that there was ongoing confusion about Lemon/Lime; it's not so much about fapping as it was used originally to tag Yuri (lemon) and Yaoi (lime) without tipping off censors. Others argue that it had to do with a famous hentai company Creamy Lemon.

A few more terms:

Hentai - sexually explicit content, basically manga porn.

Futanari - typically girls with the dangly bits included. Can either be featured with female parts or not.

Mangaka - Usually the illustrator of a manga, but in Japan, many illustrators are also the author.

Fighting - a genre that focuses on fighting, which includes classics such as Dragon Ball, Fist of the North Star and more recently Naruto, Bleach, One Piece, Claymore, Fairy Tale and Keiichi:Number One Disciple.

tankoban - usually refers to a self contained story or story arc, but more often refers to a volumization of a serial. There are about 12 types of tankobans.

Slice of Life (SoL) - is a genre that simply talks about the everyday life of it's characters as if IRL. The most famous one I can think of is K-On!

Ecchi - it basically means dirty, although it's more about fanservice such as panty flashing (pantsu) or obviously sexualized character design or innuendo and very questionable situations(no real sex.) Urusei Yatsura is probably the most (in)famous example.

Fanservice - when characterization, drawing style or situations are deliberately done to titillate the target demographic in an obvious and unrefined manner. Usually uses fetish fuel character design.

Fetish Fuel - is a fan term used as a label for any element of a story that serves to titillate the reader's erotic or obsessional sensibilities (heeee I stole that from TVtropes.) They include OL (office lady), glasses (girls who wear them), certain uniforms or clothing (senshifuku, hakama), big bewbs or small bewbs and such.

BL - the shortened term for Boy's Love (bara I guess.) Basically Yaoi, but usually in the context of male slash fanficiton.

Otaku - usually male, but basically anyone who is very obsessed with manga, anime, doujinshi, conventions, cosplay and models. They are similar to the stereotype of nerds in the 80's and 90's. In Japan, it's a derrogatory term.

Fujoshi - the female otaku that also obsesses entirely about BL/Yaoi.

Some of the best Yuri, hmmm... Sailor Moon is probably the best known, if you read the uncensored manga. Girlfriends is quite popular, as is Aoi Hana. Another famous one would be Kannazuki no Miko and Revolutionary Girl Utena but my favourite is Maka Maka.

Some additional fanfiction terms:

Self-insertion - when the author obviously creates a character that is themselves (or actually, literally inserts themselves) into the story.

Mary Sue/Gary Stu - a character that is unbelievably perfect and hyper-competent while being oblivious to her/his obvious attractiveness and always has the right answers and solves all the problems. Named after a protagonist in an infamous Star Trek fanfiction. Usually a sign of self-fulfilling self-insertion.

Dark - a genre of fanfiction that deals with adult and usually disturbing subject matter. Think Pulp Fiction.

Tragedy - a genre of fanfiction that deals with loss, usually of life.

PWP - Plot What Plot; also Porn with Plot. The first is basically porn. The second is excessive sexual content but with an actual plot story that doesn't necessarily hinge on the sex.

EDIT: Shipping - short form of relationship support.

EDIT: Canon - the source material for the fandom.

EDIT: Fanon - certain trends of defining characteristics of a fandom that is so prevalent that it becomes almost the accepted norm of a fandom.

EDIT: Squick - it means to fool a reader, making them think the fiction is about one thing and then pull a bait and switch to something that would either shock, surprise or disgust the reader.

EDIT: Crack pairing - is taking two very outlandish, incompatible or simply unheard of relational pairing. For instance, I once read a crack ship about Dr. Drakken and a potato.

As an aside, the lesbian version of seme/uke (literally top/bottom) is tachi/neko (tachi being the equivalent of butch and neko, literally "cat", being the lipstick). Many Japanese lesbians refer to themselves as "Bians" in an effort to avoid the negative connotations of "Lezzies."

Thank you.

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This is very helpful. I'm just getting into manga and anime and this is perfect to look over. Thanks :)