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message 1: by Sandy, Moderator Emeritus (last edited Dec 01, 2012 06:39AM) (new)

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25.6 - Nick KY’s Task: Fire and Ice

In some mythologies, worldwide, but especially in northern Europe, the meeting of Fire and Ice is the primal, violent, essential, and magical! action for creative endeavors of any kind. The Vermillion Bird of Summer coming along in Winter, as it does in this Challenge, reminds me of this meeting of Fire and Ice. Read two books, one from each of two different options.

Option 1. Read any book with the word “Fire” in the title or subtitle. It may be a part of a larger word such as “Wildfire” or “Firestarter.”

Option 2. Read a book with any type of fire on the cover, EXCEPT -- do not use stars or the sun.

Option 3. Celebrate the Orange of Fire by reading an Orange Prize winner from any year or a 2012 nominee for the Orange Prize. These listopias may help: Orange Broadband Prize Winners, Orange Prize Longlist 2012. The Award appears to be changing its name next year, so let’s celebrate Orange while we can.

Option 4. Read a nonfiction book which deals with Hockey (the Ice kind), or a fiction book in which a main character plays Hockey.

Option 5. Read a book with ice or snow on the cover.

Option 6. Ice and Ire – I’m not sure if these island countries are the meeting place of Fire and Ice or not, but there is something magical about them. Read any book set in either Iceland or Ireland.

REQUIRED: State which Options you choose. For Options 2 and 5 give a link to the cover. Have a magical Winter!


message 2: by Nick (last edited Jan 28, 2013 03:45AM) (new)

Nick (doily) | 3453 comments Approved Books.

Option 1. Fire And Ice, Catching Fire

Option 2. The Red Knight by Miles Cameron Lord of the Fading Lands (Tairen Soul, #1) by C.L. Wilson Flame of Sevenwaters (Sevenwaters, #6) by Juliet Marillier The Wish List by Eoin Colfer Summoning (Wolf Moon Saga #1) by Carol Wolf

Option 3. The Tiger's Wife

Option 5. Winter Garden by Kristin Hannah Snow in Love by Claire Ray and a whole bunch of children's books in message # 9.

Option 6. P.S. I Love You


message 3: by Nick (last edited Jan 22, 2013 11:30AM) (new)

Nick (doily) | 3453 comments Not Approved.

Aftertime (Aftertime, #1) by Sophie Littlefield shows the sun and, though it shows smoke, does not show the actual fire. So it's not approved for Option 2.

Likewise Debunking 9/11 Myths Why Conspiracy Theories Can't Stand Up to the Facts by Popular Mechanics Magazine will not work for Option 2 because it shows smoke, but no fire.

A Clash of Kings (A Song of Ice and Fire, #2) by George R.R. Martin will not work for Option 1 because a series title will not work according to the general rules.


message 4: by Sandy, Moderator Emeritus (new)

Sandy | 16893 comments Mod
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message 5: by Bea (new)

Bea Oh, I like this task! Now to decide on books as I have ideas for most of the options.


message 7: by Nick (new)

Nick (doily) | 3453 comments Fiona (Titch) wrote: "Fire And Ice - Dana Stabenow for Option 1?

The Tiger's Wife - Téa Obreht for Option 3?"


Looks good!


message 8: by Fiona (Titch) (new)

Fiona (Titch) Hunt (titch) | 82 comments Brillant, thanks x


message 9: by Stacie (new)

Stacie (shorty_320) | 1335 comments I hoping to use several children's books to fill option 5 and I wanted to get them approved before I post for points.

I want to use the following:

Snow (Beginner Books) by Roy McKie If You Take a Mouse to the Movies by Laura Joffe Numeroff Llama Llama Holiday Drama by Anna Dewdney (if you look at the big cover, you can see snow falling) God Gave Us Christmas by Lisa Tawn Bergren Who'll Pull Santa's Sleigh Tonight? by Laura Rader Madeline's Christmas by Ludwig Bemelmans The Polar Express by Chris Van Allsburg The Three Snow Bears by Jan Brett Froggy's Best Christmas by Jonathan London The Biggest Snowman Ever by Steven Kroll Mimi's Christmas by Martin Waddell Santa's Littlest Helper Travels the World by Anu Stohner The Very Snowy Christmas by Diana Hendry and Fancy Nancy Splendiferous Christmas by Jane O'Connor (there are snowflakes falling at the top)


message 10: by Nick (new)

Nick (doily) | 3453 comments If you hadn't pointed out the "LlamaLlama" cover snow I probably wouldn't have seen it, but it works. They all look snowy to me.


message 11: by D.G. (new)

D.G. Nick - Do you think these covers have fire? I'm really not sure!

Lord of the Fading Lands (Tairen Soul, #1) by C.L. Wilson - I think this dragon is breathing fire.
Aftertime (Aftertime, #1) by Sophie Littlefield - Is that fire in the background? There seems to be smoke in the cover so that's why I'm not sure.
The Red Knight by Miles Cameron - I guess that could be fire but maybe not.


message 12: by Vi (new)

Vi | 184 comments Option 2 - Fire on cover : Flame of Sevenwaters (Sevenwaters, #6) by Juliet Marillier
Option 5 - Snow on cover: Winter Garden by Kristin Hannah

Are those ok?


message 13: by Stacie (new)

Stacie (shorty_320) | 1335 comments Nick wrote: "If you hadn't pointed out the "LlamaLlama" cover snow I probably wouldn't have seen it, but it works. They all look snowy to me."

Thanks Nick!


message 14: by Nick (last edited Dec 19, 2012 07:43AM) (new)

Nick (doily) | 3453 comments D.G. ~Shameless Hussy~ wrote: "Nick - Do you think these covers have fire? I'm really not sure!

Lord of the Fading Lands (Tairen Soul, #1) by C.L. Wilson - I think this dragon is breathing fire.
Aftertime (Aftertime, #1) by Sophie Littlefield - Is that fire ..."


D.G.

Lord of the Fading Lands (Tairen Soul, #1) by C.L. Wilson looks like the dragon is breathing fire so it's OK.


The Red Knight by Miles Cameron looks like fire to me so it's OK.

Aftertime (Aftertime, #1) by Sophie Littlefield shows what I think is the sun. There's smoke, it's true, but I'm not convinced of fire, so I'll have to go by the letter of my "law" here and say that it won't do.


message 15: by Nick (new)

Nick (doily) | 3453 comments Vi wrote: "Option 2 - Fire on cover : Flame of Sevenwaters (Sevenwaters, #6) by Juliet Marillier
Option 5 - Snow on cover: Winter Garden by Kristin Hannah

Are those ok?"


Yes, both are OK.


message 16: by D.G. (new)

D.G. Nick wrote: "D.G. ~Shameless Hussy~ wrote: "Nick - Do you think these covers have fire? I'm really not sure!

Lord of the Fading Lands (Tairen Soul, #1) by C.L. Wilson - I think this dragon is breathing fire.
[bookcover:Aft..."


Awesome, Nick. Thanks! 2 out of 3 is not too bad! ;)


message 17: by Jennifer (new)

Jennifer (jenn33082) | 10 comments I'm reading the 2nd in the Fire & Ice series. I was wondering if this counted. At first I thought it would, but in reading through all the rules again, I think series subtitles are excluded? Your input would be appreciated :)

A Clash of Kings


message 18: by Nick (last edited Jan 11, 2013 01:37PM) (new)

Nick (doily) | 3453 comments Jennifer wrote: "I'm reading the 2nd in the Fire & Ice series. I was wondering if this counted. At first I thought it would, but in reading through all the rules again, I think series subtitles are excluded? Your i..."

Ooooooh, sorry. (cringe) According to the general rules, series titles are excluded unless specifically allowed by the task creator. I only allowed for titles and subtitles, fitting the pattern of the general rules, so a series title will not work.


message 19: by Jennifer (new)

Jennifer (jenn33082) | 10 comments Nick wrote: "Jennifer wrote: "I'm reading the 2nd in the Fire & Ice series. I was wondering if this counted. At first I thought it would, but in reading through all the rules again, I think series subtitles are..."

No problem. Thank you :)


message 20: by Kayleigh (new)

Kayleigh Reads (kayleigh_reads_romance) For Option 5 would a snowflake work?
For example Snow in Love by Claire Ray
Thanks:)


message 21: by Nick (new)

Nick (doily) | 3453 comments Keltie Lee wrote: "For Option 5 would a snowflake work?
For example Snow in Love by Claire Ray
Thanks:)"


Looks like snow to me. It works.


message 22: by Claire (new)

Claire (proud-mum) | 1086 comments I'm going to read Catching Fire by Suzanne Collins (Option 1) and P.S. I Love You by Cecelia Ahern (Option 6).


message 23: by Nick (new)

Nick (doily) | 3453 comments Claire wrote: "I'm going to read Catching Fire by Suzanne Collins (Option 1) and P.S. I Love You by Cecelia Ahern (Option 6)."

I'm guessing that since Cecelia Ahern is Irish and, accocrding to her GR homepage, P.S. I Love You was on the Ireland topseller charts for 19 weeks, that means it takes place in Ireland. Therefore it's good to go, as is Catching Fire for Option 1.


message 24: by Robin (new)

Robin (rgage) | 191 comments does Debunking 9/11 Myths Why Conspiracy Theories Can't Stand Up to the Facts by Popular Mechanics Magazine work for option 2 (fire)


message 25: by Nick (new)

Nick (doily) | 3453 comments Robin wrote: "does Debunking 9/11 Myths Why Conspiracy Theories Can't Stand Up to the Facts by Popular Mechanics Magazine work for option 2 (fire)"

There's an old saying, "Where there's smoke, there's fire." Unfortunately my task request was for a picture of fire, not smoke. I had to say "No" to a similar request earlier, so I'll have to say "No" to this one also, since there's a lot of smoke, but no pictured fire.


message 26: by Robin (new)

Robin (rgage) | 191 comments Thanks and that's okay that you had to say no. Just means I'll get to read another book off of my to read list. I'll try to fit this elsewhere.


message 27: by Robin (last edited Jan 23, 2013 11:06PM) (new)

Robin (rgage) | 191 comments Would this one work? The Wish List The Wish List by Eoin Colfer


message 28: by Nick (new)

Nick (doily) | 3453 comments Robin wrote: "Would this one work? The Wish ListThe Wish List by Eoin Colfer"

I definitely see flames on that one. It works.


message 29: by Andrea (new)

Andrea (deja05) | 100 comments Would this work for Option 2? Summoning (Wolf Moon Saga #1) by Carol Wolf


message 30: by Nick (new)

Nick (doily) | 3453 comments Andrea wrote: "Would this work for Option 2? Summoning (Wolf Moon Saga #1) by Carol Wolf"

I suppose the question is, "Is that Fire behind her, or some sort of Magic-induced energy?" But I think that even if it were "energy" that the energy would consist of something very much like fire complete with flames -- which I see. So it works.


message 31: by D.G. (new)

D.G. Nick wrote: " A Clash of Kings (A Song of Ice and Fire, #2) will not work for Option 1 because a series title will not work according to the general rules. "

Nick - I know you said the book above wouldn't work because the word 'fire' was in the series title. What about books that have the series info as the subtitle? For instance, I'm reading Scorched Skies and the cover says 'A Fire Spirits Novel'. Could I use this book for Option 1? Or does this considered as series info?


message 32: by Nick (last edited Feb 06, 2013 01:02PM) (new)

Nick (doily) | 3453 comments D.G. ~Shameless Hussy~ wrote: "Nick wrote: " A Clash of Kings (A Song of Ice and Fire, #2) will not work for Option 1 because a series title will not work according to the general rules. "

Nick - I know you said the book above ..."


D.G.,

I think your question is: Do we consider "A Fire Spirits Novel" a subtitle since it is printed on the cover in a way that looks like it might be a subtitle?

I'm afraid I have to defer to the folder "Rules of the Challenge: Effective Winter 2012" Under the subheading of "Task Requirements" Rule # 1 states:

"1. For tasks that require a word in a title, only the title and the subtitle may be used. Series subtitles will NOT apply ex. "a novel of Series name", "A Series name book", "Book # of Series name", etc.. Task creators may allow series subtitles if explicitly included in the task description."

Since I did not specifically allow series subtitles, and since the example "A Series name book" is given as unacceptable I really can't go against the moderators' rules here.

I'm sorry, but I'm sure you can find somewhere else to fit these great books in.


message 33: by D.G. (new)

D.G. No problem, Nick. :) I thought that would be the answer but I figured I should check just in case!


message 34: by Sandra (new)

Sandra (sandra72) | 714 comments Would Cruel and Unusual (Kay Scarpetta, #4) by Patricia Cornwell work for Option 5 - snow on the cover?


message 35: by Nick (new)

Nick (doily) | 3453 comments Sandra wrote: "Would Cruel and Unusual (Kay Scarpetta, #4) by Patricia Cornwell work for Option 5 - snow on the cover?"

I think that is snow or ice on the cover, so I'll say "Yes."


message 36: by mstan (new)

mstan | 868 comments Hi Nick

Does this work for option 5 (snow)? I am pretty sure the layer of stuff at the bottom is snow but it looks like an artistic rendering of it (with the shape/crystals delineated):

The Snow Child by Eowyn Ivey


message 37: by Jayme Pendergraft (last edited Feb 10, 2013 07:07AM) (new)

Jayme Pendergraft | 762 comments Does this one work for snow? Cover of Snow by Jenny Milchman

Thanks!


message 38: by Nick (new)

Nick (doily) | 3453 comments #36 -- mstan -- Yes!

#37 -- Jayme VA -- Yes!

They both have snow on the cover.


message 39: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 9031 comments Hot as Sin (Hot Shots Men of Fire #2) by Bella Andre - Nick can i get a rulingn on this - it looks like there might be flames up in the upper left-hand cover on the branches


message 40: by Nick (new)

Nick (doily) | 3453 comments Dee wrote: "Hot as Sin (Hot Shots Men of Fire #2) by Bella Andre - Nick can i get a rulingn on this - it looks like there might be flames up in the upper left-hand cover on the branches"

Yeah, this one's tricky. It's more than just smoke, though, so I'll say it's flame and it counts.


message 41: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 9031 comments thanks! I was hoping you would say that ;)


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