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Do aliens exist?
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Mrs.Crazy (nico di angelo)
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Jan 24, 2013 06:14AM

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the do exist i seen a ufo befor
so are you going to kick us out???
Abhishek, your banned from this topic. BANNED. I will let you respond to this post. Then you better not post here again.
Thats more funny than many jokes I have read.
Wow.
Moving on.
Okay, everyone if you follow me over here, you can see dee Milky Way. It is very dairy like. Now let's talk about aliens. What do you think, are they real?
Moving on.
Okay, everyone if you follow me over here, you can see dee Milky Way. It is very dairy like. Now let's talk about aliens. What do you think, are they real?
Makaylia wrote: "Shumailah (Mrs.Crazy) wrote: "Lol. But seriously, you guys are taking this topic as a joke.....I DO NOT APPRECIATE THAT"
Im sorry if i offended you. I just post what first comes to mind"
It is okay, I'm not offended by you. :)
Im sorry if i offended you. I just post what first comes to mind"
It is okay, I'm not offended by you. :)
yes i think there real i saw a flying sauser it was high in the sky and than it cept moving super fast alke teleporting across the sky then it dissaperd

the big bang therioy (not the tv show)
haha its where a hug mass of protons and newtrons colided at more than tthe speed of light and created alot of big particals like planets... not many people know about it but i looove scinece

It's based on physics and chemistry?
idk i havent learnd it in school yet
I believe aliens exist. I don't know if they have visited earth, but I would bet my life on the fact that there is life on other planets.


And I mean, sure, maybe there might be other creatures out there in the vast, open space, but I don't really believe it (although I still love alien movies)


It's not scientism or solipsism but there is one that you are right about. I forgot what it is called though.

God created everything. The whole entire universe. And everything in it. God has been around forever and I do mean this literally and He will continue to last forever. ..."
Yes. God made everything. He created every single baby in a mother's womb, the earth and everything good.
I'm still skeptical on the aliens, though. But I'm not saying it is absolutely impossible. It just says that God so Loved the WORLD, implying one. And since God created everything, I find it difficult to believe that their are other creatures out there when our Savior was sent to US.

I know! The Big Bang Theory always reminds me of like, I don't know, as if someone said, "I'll make this and that" and shot a shotgun in the air to stimulate a big bang. Because I'm literally thinking in the terms of "bang" everything is here!

I'd still have God in it, because like I said earlier, it is a relationship, not a religion because (I believe) religion places limits on things. And it is kind of hard for me NOT to think of it in terms regarding God because without Him, nothing makes sense so then we would reach a moot point.
Shadowhunter Girl wrote: "Elevetha wrote: "Religion: OOOh. Never mind.
God created everything. The whole entire universe. And everything in it. God has been around forever and I do mean this literally and He will continue ..."
I have never thought about it that way, but it's an excellent point.
God created everything. The whole entire universe. And everything in it. God has been around forever and I do mean this literally and He will continue ..."
I have never thought about it that way, but it's an excellent point.

I also understand that religion would have a role into your thoughts on aliens, because the role God plays would basically eliminate any reason for aliens to exist.
Not too sure. They may exist or may not. With any proof we can neither assume that they exist nor deny their existence!
TotalWhovian wrote: "The proof that aliens exist is that they have never tried to contact Earth."
Um, I don't get you properly. Can you explain?
Um, I don't get you properly. Can you explain?


Um, I don't get you properly. Can you explain?"
I dont know ifound it on google images and i thought it made sense in my head.

Did you mean this: “The surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that..."
oh yeah that one
Ianto wrote: "I feel that there is no way that earth people are all there just got to be more"
Agreed
Agreed



HOWEVER, by UFO I mean I could not identify what I saw. That does not necessarily mean alien. I have no evidence on that, either way.
2 of the 3 incidents my wife also witnessed something, so I'll start with the one I saw by myself.
1. I was driving home at night. It was pitch dark, meaning I don't even recall seeing stars, so it must have been overcast. A Huge shape came from behind me traveling in the same direction. There was no noise, yet it appeared to hover generally about the height of a 15 story building. It was a matte black triangle, with the longer angle pointing forward. There was a white light on the underside, at each of the three corners. In the center of the triangle, on the underside was a much larger light that pulsed red, like a heartbeat. To see it, since I'm tall, I had to duck forward into the windshield and look up. I double checked by rolling down my window and sticking my head out. The black surface reflected no light at all, I only knew it was triangular because the sky behind it, even though overcast, was slightly less dark so I could make out the silhouette. This was right before my exit so I turned off to go home and the craft continued on along the highway. I have no idea if the other drivers saw it, but I did notice all the cars in general started to slow, so I think they did. It appeared to be about a football field to two football fields long, but without knowing the exact altitude, that's a guess. I only know, looking forward over a hiway with four lanes both directions (8 lanes total) it was large enough to be wider than the the entire hiway. This was in SW ohio.
two incidents my wife saw with me:
2. Living in a Chicago hirise, I had a great view of the John Hancock tower, the lake, and the skyline. One evening my wife and I saw what looked like a plane contrail, only without a plane. It was sunset so the trail shown bright orange. While we watched, instead of the trail getting longer, it was a fixed length, like a ribbon. As it moved across the sky, the back end was always the same distance from the front end. I thought it might be one of those planes that drag messages behind them. But it didn't really look like that. I grabbed my binoculars and checked. No plane was in front, it wasn't a message ribbon. Then, while I was looking, my wife said "OMG". I pulled down the binocs and I saw the ribbon make a perfect right angle downward, like a worm crawling around a corner. It was not natural. The ribbon did not sway at all in the wind, and the movement was geometric. Then, it headed away from us and in a blink, it disappeared at a very high rate of speed.
We called the local air force base to report a UFO, and they directed us to a dept that takes UFO calls (this was about 25 years ago). The guy WAS the UFO guy, we described it and he discouraged us from filing a report. He pretty much argued against everything we told him. We told him we BOTH saw it, and what it did. In the end, he refused to take a report, even though I got the impression we weren't the only ones who had already called him.
3. Fast forward to only 10 years ago, in SW ohio. Our second floor master bedroom windows opened out onto a thin strand of trees and then a very large open field, and then a thicker strand of trees behind that. This was late at night, our lights were off, and our windows were open (warm spring) we could see the outlines of the tree limbs from the trees closest to us. Keep in mind, our windows were open, so if this was a helicopter, we would have definitely heard it. In fact, helicopters did occasionally fly over and they're very distinctive in shape and sound.
My wife said, Look! and I looked out the window. There was no sound whatsoever. A craft that would be roughly the size of a helicopter if it didn't have a tail was slowly hovering over the empty field. It was a moonless night. It had a battery of lights on it that wrapped around the shape. the shape was like if you stuck a cube on a bar of wood, and stuck another cube on the other end. Sort of like boxy barbells, only the bar was almost as thick as the bulbous ends. we got up and watched it lazily drift over the field. Then it flopped over into a new position, like a rubik's cube and drifted higher and higher until we couldn't see it anymore. At its closest position, it was less than 100 yards from our window, even with us, so there was no mistaking it. also, the trees were mostly dead so there weren't a lot of leaves in the way.
Now, another thing to add to this is that my wife is a former flight attendant, and is familiar with how regular aircraft look at night, what kind of lights they have, etc. She verified this was not a regular craft, and quite frankly, we couldn't go back to sleep for a while because she was completely freaked out.
so there you have, my three ecounters with something I couldn't identify.
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Sasha Ivashkov-Herondale-Jackson (aka Clarisse)
(last edited Jul 17, 2013 04:40AM)
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BUT THEY PROBABLY FRIKKIN DO!!!! AARRGGGHHHHH!!!!
bcuz in this vast universe, we cannot possibly be the only organisms... ANYWAYZ those aliens proabably are VERY different from us... i mean they probably dont have amino acids to have DNA as a basic life.