Boundless discussion

I hated it. I really didn't want her to end up with (view spoiler)[Tucker (hide spoiler)]. I really thought that (view spoiler)[Christian (hide spoiler)] and Clara were perfect for each other. I'm so upset right now.

I WAS SOOOOOOOO HAPPY!!!! I knew that they would end up together but I got nervous for a minute at the end of Hallowed. But it was clear that Clara always saw Christian as a partner and friend. On their date they didn't even have anything to talk about. I thought everything worked out great for everyone. Christian will hopefully meet someone who only thinks of him because as Clara said he would have always been her second choice which wouldn't be fair to him.

Loved it. Freaking Loved that ending! It was better than I could have hoped.

It was everything I could have hoped for. I loved, loved, loved the way she kept ending up in the barn when she crossed.

I had some seriously worried moments in there - especially during the date and when they took off with Web and she called him. But...but.

"Haven't you figured it out yet? You are my home."

I pretty much died right there. And then the very end, when he died, when she saved him and was with him in heaven and the I love yous and good God that kiss....and then he came back.

Happy. Happy. Happy.

Libbie wrote: "Haven't you figured it out yet? You are my home."

Yes I LOVED LOVED LOVED that she kept ending up at the barn. No matter what was happening or where she tried to go, he was always all she thought about *tears* Beautiful ending!!!!

Kaitlyn *Nandos* wrote: "I hated it. I really didn't want her to end up with [spoilers removed]. I really thought that [spoilers removed] and Clara were perfect for each other. I'm so upset right now."

I feel the exact same. I was so mad.

Kaitlyn *Nandos* wrote: "I hated it. I really didn't want her to end up with [spoilers removed]. I really thought that [spoilers removed] and Clara were perfect for each other. I'm so upset right now."

Me too, I'm so disappointed. Enjoyed most of the series up until the end. It crushed me that she ended up with him.

I hated the ending, not just because I've always liked Christian better, but because the ending just felt like such a cop-out. The whole prophet thing was such a deus ex machina and only a plot device used so Tucker and Clara could be together; it was never actually explained in any way, and I only have a very vague idea of what it could possibly mean. Becoming a prophet was in no way necessary for Tucker's storyline or character development. There should have been a way to bring him back without throwing that in, and even if there wasn't, she should have taken the time to explain what it meant. That alone is probably enough to warrant a fourth book. If one of you can sit me down and explain to me in great detail everything Tucker's powers do, I will take back what I'm saying in this first paragraph, but since I don't think anyone else knows either, I don't see that happening.

Besides that, Tucker is just a high school romance to me. I remember being in love for the first time--it was the same way, and it took me a very long time to get over him but I finally did and now that I'm an adult and I've been in love a few more times, you couldn't pay me enough to date that first guy again. Christian understood her in a way that Tucker never could (at least, not before the deus ex machina that gave him powers, too). Realistically, when you're a teenager, it seems like the world is ending if you lose your first love, but *most people* move on from it and find someone who is even better for them. You're never going to know if someone better for you is out there if you don't even look for them and stay hung up on somebody else. The mature thing for Clara to do would have been to move on and let Tucker find someone who was human and could give him a normal life, and for her to find someone who would understand and love every part of her (like, you know, Christian). I thought that was the direction she was headed in HALLOWED. But it's as if all her character development got erased in BOUNDLESS, and she's all back-and-forth between the guys, and in the end she reverts to her old ways and picks Tucker.

Sighhh. That was long-winded. Sorry. I'm just still irrationally angry over the way this book ended.

Kimberlee wrote: "I hated the ending, not just because I've always liked Christian better, but because the ending just felt like such a cop-out. The whole prophet thing was such a deus ex machina and only a plot de..."

I agree with you on the deus ex machina issue, and I also think a lot of other characters didnt get a fair shake when it comes to having their stories told. I want to know more about what was going on with Jeffrey this whole time, what was happening with Phen, and what was happening with Angela. I also think the way she sent Christian off to Chicago without any explanation beyond that was ridiculous. Ugh that bothered me. so- I am totally with you. I actually think the ending was rushed- like she couldn't wait to be done with it. A follow up novel or even a novella wouldn't be unwarranted to me.

Anna wrote: "Kimberlee wrote: "I hated the ending, not just because I've always liked Christian better, but because the ending just felt like such a cop-out. The whole prophet thing was such a deus ex machina ..."

I agree 100%; even though Angela's plotline was supposed to be a big part of the book, I felt like she was physically absent for a huge part of it, as was Jeffrey. After RADIANT, I thought we'd get a bit more explanation about what was going on with Phen, but he was barely in this one. I can tell that this was meant to be two books instead of one.

Words cannot explain how angry the epilogue made me when Christian was the one who wasn't there, and we have pretty much no clue what his life is like beyond his location and career. I want to know if he's happy, if he ever found love again, etc. I have my fingers crossed for a novella about him, but after seeing the way he's constantly screwed over and pushed aside throughout the series, I'm not getting my hopes up.

BOUNDLESS really could have used 50-100 more pages. If there were supposed to be four books in the series instead of three, I don't see how there wasn't enough material to flesh out the ending a bit more and at least try to explain some of the things that got glossed over in the final chapter and the epilogue. This is one of my favorite series, but I'm just so unsatisfied with how it ended. I might not be as angry with who she chose if I felt the ending was well-done, but I don't even have that.

I will admit to wanting more about Christian and where he ended up during the epilogue, but I started to wonder if he might be getting his own spin-off series. Like Adrian got from the Vampire Academy series with Bloodlines.

No idea if there's any basis in fact there - just a wild guess.

I admit I never liked Christian so I didn't even think about where he ended up or care. I think it was mentioned that he was an architect and was working so that is good enough for me. The Prophet thing was a bit convenient but it didn't bother me. Often times in paranormal books this exact thing happens. The paranormal person changes the human and then it makes it easier for them to be together. Whatever gets us there works for me because I really wanted them together.

Oh, also did you guys notice that the epilogue of this book is the daydream Clara had in hallowed when she was writing where she saw herself in ten years? I thought that was really cute.

Gah! Now I have to get the Kindle out and find that scene!

Libbie wrote: "Gah! Now I have to get the Kindle out and find that scene!"

Me too! Didn't catch that!!! Awww!

I went and found it and that is so awesome - especially the way it showcases how the visions can be right and wrong at the same time. How she can interpret them right but get small things wrong due to lack of context.

She sees Tucker, sees Web...but thinks Web is her child because it would never occur to her that she'd be a pseudo-aunt to Angela's baby.

Another round of brava.

Kimberlee wrote: "I hated the ending, not just because I've always liked Christian better, but because the ending just felt like such a cop-out. The whole prophet thing was such a deus ex machina and only a plot de..."

I totally agree. Cynthia takes all this time to fully develop Christian into this great mature guy who actually seems perfect for her, and then at the end he is disregarded with some lame joke about Tucker dying in a hundred years. Lame or what? And you know how Uriel is saying how their will be war and stuff - well nine years later, she doesn't even freaking bring it up. But, I'm just mad about that whole Christian thing. Its like in the first book - Clara spends all her time fawning over Christian, subsequentially making the reader fawn over him too, then yank hes gone and shes with Tucker. Same in this book - I was reminded why Christian - her supposed partner and best friend who is absent from her life nine years later -is her soulmate. Im just mad about it all. I even rated it two stars.

So you rated it one star because you didn't like the book as a whole (the journey to Hell to save Angela, risking them all to save Jeffrey, the way she and Christian fought Asael and he twins at the Pink Garter, the final battle between Clara and Asael?) or because the guy you liked didn't get the girl?

I thought the author did a great job developing Christian as a strong friend and partner to help Clara save Angela and Web. The book was so much about free will and Clara choosing what she wants. I loved it! I thought Christian was a good guy but overly pushy. I did like how in the end he admitted he should have never kissed Clara. He knew she was in love with Tucker but dismissed her feelings assuming it was some crush and she would just get over him even though she told Christian she was in love with Tucker. I was proud Christian figured everything out and knew his purpose was more than a person but finding and saving his family. I loved the development of all the characters.

Jennifer wrote: "I thought the author did a great job developing Christian as a strong friend and partner to help Clara save Angela and Web. The book was so much about free will and Clara choosing what she wants. I..."

I kept getting skeeved out sometimes by the fact that he was always reading her thoughts, commenting on them, answering questions she'd only thought. That Clara had to keep asking him to stop.

Maybe showing my inner Acheron fangirl but I believe his life motto:

Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

Yeah I agree it was a bit much when he read everything of her. He probably regretted it once he kept seeing her thoughts of Tucker. LOL

Jennifer wrote: "Yeah I agree it was a bit much when he read everything of her. He probably regretted it once he kept seeing her thoughts of Tucker. LOL"

Like the old saying about eavesdropping. You rarely hear things you want to hear.

Ugh, my heart hurts. Christians character was unfairly ended if I may say. Its like were led to belief he will live the rest of his life in pain...and that just doesn't sit well with me. But oh well I guess. I'm just gonna go finish crying now.

I wish that (view spoiler)[ Christian (hide spoiler)] ending up being with Clara instead of (view spoiler)[ Tucker (hide spoiler)] but I didn't mind the ending. i liked it alot.

Tis wrote: "Ugh, my heart hurts. Christians character was unfairly ended if I may say. Its like were led to belief he will live the rest of his life in pain...and that just doesn't sit well with me. But oh wel..."

Yesssss. So true!

I hate to say this, but I was a little happy when Tucker died..... But then she got together with him and I was like NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Christian is PERFECTION!!! AND WILL ALWAYS BE IN LOVE WITH HER!
Now I loved everything other than her and Tucker getting together, and I guess it's ok....
BUT Christian!!!!!!!!!!

Libbie wrote: "So you rated it one star because you didn't like the book as a whole (the journey to Hell to save Angela, risking them all to save Jeffrey, the way she and Christian fought Asael and he twins at th..."
I rated it one star because, yes, I didn't like the book as a whole. I didn't believe that the character development was that great in this book. I feel as though we barely get to see characters like Angela, and understand what she's going through with her pregnancy besides, her obvious frustration and fear. And what about Phen? He obviously cared about her a little to at least warn her that the baby was in trouble, without that warning the baby would have died - do we get an explanation for that? So many strings are left untied - like how's Jeffery after finding out his serious girlfriend was a psycho and then doesn't actually die but just rolls into a river. So no, to clarify things for you I did not rate this book one star just because Christian didn't end up with Clara, I was just frustrated that after spending a whole book calling him, her best friend, partner and strength that he isn't even a part of her life at the end especially after he started the whole damn thing anyway. Is this a good enough reason?

There were a whole lot of holes in the ending, us readers are left with so many questions. The prophet thing was so unecessary as well I think... If Cynthia wanted to give the idea that (view spoiler)[Christian would have his time with Clara eventually, (hide spoiler)] then what exactly was the point of (view spoiler)[Tucker's longitivity (hide spoiler)]? If she wanted to appease the (view spoiler)[Christian/Clara (hide spoiler)] fans (considering who she chose in the end) I see no purpose for the prophet angle.... I'm not ever going to get started on the ending in a romantic aspect. (view spoiler)[CHRISTIAN I JUST WANTED YOU TO BE HAPPY SOBSSSS (hide spoiler)]

As far as trilogy endings go, Boundless was generally pretty satisfying. We find out Clara's purpose and who she ends up with. That being said, the secondary characters are left in the dust for most of the book. And considering this is the end of it all, it does leave me a bit agitated. Angela and Jeffrey had their own issues and problems throughout the book, and we have no clue what goes on.

I Freakin LOVE Christian in Book 3!!! GAWD!!! He is the Dreamy Perfection, the Biggest Hero, and the MOST Awesome Character in this Book *for me*!!! :P

I don't like the ending. As I've said in my review of the book, it's missing the soul of the characters.

The ending was good. It answered a lot of questions but it is bland. It seems to me that Cynthia just wanted to end the series.

I didn't particularly hate the ending, but I really wanted her to end up with Christian in the end or for Christian to find someone to love him thee way he loves her he ends up all alone in the end, big fat tears are streaming down my face, I hope there is a spinoff

Karla wrote: "There were a whole lot of holes in the ending, us readers are left with so many questions. The prophet thing was so unecessary as well I think... If Cynthia wanted to give the idea that [spoilers r..."

Exactly how i feel. This last book left way too many things open. And to be honest, What is the plot? Free will? Destiny? Your true purpose in life? Follow your heart? make lame decisions a go against God? When her "grandfather" asked her if she knew her purpose her first thought was Christian. Christian was always her purpose? I really loved the characters throughout the books until this last book. I could not have been more disappointed in her writing of Boundless. I believe this so far is the best Angel series I have found but i will not recommend it to anyone. Not because of the guy she chose. I like them both. I was actually content with Tucker's death. I felt his character was blessed to go to Heaven. And who in their right mind would not move on in Heaven? I will not recommend this book because it was rushed, too many holes, and to me there is no plot. The series builds you up in the first two beautifully written books to be dropped on your face for the last.

I enjoyed the last book but I couldn't help but ache for Christian. He truly loved Clara and I don't think he could ever fall for someone else, I think that will always be a hole for him. I could totally see him waiting for her until they could spend their last days together, but I think ultimately he would have always been the second choice for her. Perhaps, a book on them a hundred years later? But I don't think so. In a story like this, there just can't be a HEA for everyone :(

Kaitlyn *Nandos* wrote: "I hated it. I really didn't want her to end up with [spoilers removed]. I really thought that [spoilers removed] and Clara were perfect for each other. I'm so upset right now."

I didnt enjoy the ending either. I think it was all too much happy sappy mushy lovey dovey! On some level though I didnt want her to end up with Christian either, because all the way through all 3 books ive held a major grudge on him for being with Kay. (yeah I still thinks shes a huge bitch! and a guy that falls in love with a huge bitch, meh not my cup of tea!) But still felt kind of meh, that Christian didnt get any real resolve.

I know this isnt the topic of the thread, but anyone else than me who just loved Sam's char? Even though hes a blackwing, and an evil soab, I just hold this special place in my heart for him and Clare's mom. That's a lovestory the way I always love them. (Like Snape and Harry's mom, in Harry potter!) My heart bleeds for him! in a good way.

and oh yeah, Phen, SCREW YOU! (thats how I felt after I was done with the books)

Maddie wrote: "I hate to say this, but I was a little happy when Tucker died..... But then she got together with him and I was like NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ch..."

I agree with you, I really think Tucker should have remained dead. Would have made a better ending, and then she would have gotten with him in heaven instead.

Her purpose was free will. The visions were to guide her but it was always up to her if she were to use them and help people. Christian was never her purpose. Her purpose was to save Angela and Web and get rid of that evil angel big wig guy. Christian was just an asset to team up with. She kept seeing him and assumed it had to be something romantic but it wasn't. Just that he could help her with her purpose. She is free to be with Tucker if she wants.

What she ^^ said.

Kimberlee wrote: "I hated the ending, not just because I've always liked Christian better, but because the ending just felt like such a cop-out. The whole prophet thing was such a deus ex machina and only a plot de..."

Some high school relationships last. My aunt and uncle have been together since they were in 9th grade. Clara and Tucker being together makes sense to me. <3 them.

Sara wrote: "Kimberlee wrote: "I hated the ending, not just because I've always liked Christian better, but because the ending just felt like such a cop-out. The whole prophet thing was such a deus ex machina ..."

That's great for your aunt and uncle. I know some of them DO last; my parents started dating in high school and now they've been married for 35 years. But, in my experience, most of them don't last, and the person you are in high school is usually not the person you are later in life. The boy or girl who is a great fit for you at 17 might not be a great fit for you at 37, or even 27.

I never really understood settling down with your first love because how are you supposed to know who else is out there if you don't even look? First love is an interesting and wonderful experience, but the first isn't always supposed to be the best. Maybe for some people it is, but for most people it's not. You go off to college and find someone better, or you meet them at your job. A "high school romance" is exactly what it sounds like. For most people (not all) it's meant to be kept in the confines of high school, and that's how I felt about Clara and Tucker.

I think Tucker was a great fit for Clara while she was in high school, but as she gets older, she needs someone who understands her better, and I don't think he ever fully can just because he's not an angel (maybe he can a little better now after that deus ex machina prophet ending, but it's still not a full understanding IMO). As much as Tucker can love her and care about her, he can never really understand her powers or any struggles she may have when it comes to being an angel. I know this is a fantasy book, but the love triangle and the characters had been written so realistically for me up until the ending, and idk I just don't see how Tucker was the best, most mature choice for her.

Kaitlyn *Nandos* wrote: "I hated it. I really didn't want her to end up with [spoilers removed]. I really thought that [spoilers removed] and Clara were perfect for each other. I'm so upset right now."

I definitely understand how you feel...
The ending just doesn't seem right you know?
I really can't believe that Clara ended up with Tucker. It feels like Cynthia Hand is biased of Tucker even though Clara moved to a different place it feels like she's 'forcing' Clara and Tucker. For example that teleportation that Michael taught clara (really hate you for this michael) it's the reason they were able to meet again!
And for me the author didn't even put much effort with Clara and Christians' relationship.
At the first book after meeting Christian it feels like Tucker dominated the book (ex.; with him always showing up with part time job when Clara wants to meet with Tucker, the coffe shop, then the date, the prom, the mission). Her relationship with Christian ended before it even started. What? They only get to have kisses (which I'm sure that I would be able to count with my finger if i re-read all three of the book)

Christian is like the only thing that is stable in Clara's life and then why couldn't they ended up being together?
The only thing that Christian's mistake was when he brought the girl (what's her name, her girlfriend i'm not good with names) but i think it's too cruel Christian have to suffer for that mistake with the entirety of the trilogy. It's just not FAIR!
Christian is like the BEST CHOICE for her. Clara's too STUBBORN she couldn't accept Christian because of the vision part right?
BUT then what advice did she give to her mother Maggie? When Maggie was troubled/afraid of being with Michael because her vision/mission is showing her to be with Michael and feel's like it's being forced upon her by god. She told her that he really love her and the feelings not fake right? But she can't accept Christian's feeling because what, she feel like it's also being forced upon her.

I REALLY WISH THAT THERE'D BE A SPIN-OFF OF THIS NOVEL AND PLEASE MAKE HER END UP WITH CHRISTIAN AND I'LL DIE HAPPY!

Kimberlee wrote: "Sara wrote: "Kimberlee wrote: "I hated the ending, not just because I've always liked Christian better, but because the ending just felt like such a cop-out. The whole prophet thing was such a deu..."

I definitely agree with you. For me Clara is being childish~

I loved the ending. Truth is that Christian only wanted her in the beginning because it was his "purpose" But Tucker loved her despite it all. It had to be Tucker in the end. Christian can go find someone else.....maybe in a spinoff :).

Kaitlyn *Nandos* wrote: "I hated it. I really didn't want her to end up with [spoilers removed]. I really thought that [spoilers removed] and Clara were perfect for each other. I'm so upset right now."

I agree. I was so pissed off when I read the ending. I couldn't stand Tucker from the beginning. And I hate hate HATE how he called her carrots. I have red hair and kids taunted me with similar nicknames all through gradeschool. Every time he called her carrots, I hated him a little bit more, and I never liked him to begin with, the hick.

Also, I felt like pretty much every secondary character was really 2-dimensional in this book. Jeremy and Angela specifically. Clara saw how each of them were making horrible choices and she didn't try to dissuade them or warn them at all, she just let them. That made no sense to me.

Kimberlee wrote: "I hated the ending, not just because I've always liked Christian better, but because the ending just felt like such a cop-out. The whole prophet thing was such a deus ex machina and only a plot de..."

Totally agree!

It's actually the only book to ever make me cry! I loved it I always thought she would end up with who she did. I did want more for Christan and Jeffrey in the end like most of you but I was still happy overall with it

Kimberlee wrote: "I hated the ending, not just because I've always liked Christian better, but because the ending just felt like such a cop-out. The whole prophet thing was such a deus ex machina and only a plot de..."

You took the words right out of my mouth! Tucker as a prophet? Waaaaaaay too convenient. He hadn't shown the least bit of interest in anything divine or more important than keeping Clara with him throughout the whole series. It's like turning Michael Corleone into an ice cream truck driver. I'd be fine with it if it had any use to the story other than getting those two crazy kids together at the end - if this is how the author wanted it to end, she really should have made Tuck something other than a self-centered farm boy from the beginning. With the whole story centering on higher purposes, you would think that there'd be a hint of justification for it. GAH.

Faith wrote: "Kimberlee wrote: "I hated the ending, not just because I've always liked Christian better, but because the ending just felt like such a cop-out. The whole prophet thing was such a deus ex machina ..."

Faith i like your comment, I totally agree with you (since there isn't any like bottom I felt like replying to say it)

I totally agree with you, Faith!! :D

Kimberlee wrote: "I hated the ending, not just because I've always liked Christian better, but because the ending just felt like such a cop-out. The whole prophet thing was such a deus ex machina and only a plot de..."

I agree with you 100%! Although I have always preferred Clara with Tucker I still got irritated with the ending as it was all just a bit to convenient for my liking..

If you look at most paranormal books endings they are often convenient but hey I'm all good as long as Clara & Tucker can live HEA!