Insurgent discussion

Okay, only for those of you who have read Insurgent (this contains spoilers!). So towards the end of Insurgent where *spoiler* Lynn dies, and she tells Uriah she loved Marlene too, to which Uriah replies something like 'yeah, we all do' and Lynn says 'that's not what I mean' . Do you think that Lynn meant she loved Marlene romantically? Which would explain her jealousy (I thought it was because she liked/loved Uriah). But now I'm thinking, is Lynn lesbian? Maybe? What do you think?

To me, it definately says that Lynn was gay...

And I have to say, that I love VR for saying it, without really saying it, if you get what I mean...

I thought she liked Uriah too xD That was why the end caught me by surprise. I wasn't expecting that one, but yeah I believe that Lynn was lesbian after all.

I'm glad you all agree! That's what immediately jumped to my mind, but i thought maybe I was reading too much into it or jumping to conclusions because there are a lot of gay characters coming around (which isn't a bad thing) and I just expect it.
I hope Veronica Roth sort of explains that in the last book because I don't think either Tris nor Uriah cottoned on.

Maybe Lynn is Bisexual, b/c she did have a romantic connection to Uriah as much as she did Marlene.

Brittany wrote: "Maybe Lynn is Bisexual, b/c she did have a romantic connection to Uriah as much as she did Marlene."


When did you notice a romantic connection between Lynn and Uriah? I did not pik up on that at all.

Nah, Uriah isn't a weird name. But the what Lynn said before she died proved her she was lesbian for me. Or at least that's what I'm pretty sure Veronica Roth was getting at.

I think Lynn is lesbian...

I was sure Lynn was lesbian since Tris met her on the elevator. THE GIRL SHAVED HER HEAD! And she acts so manly.

jay wrote: "I was sure Lynn was lesbian since Tris met her on the elevator. THE GIRL SHAVED HER HEAD! And she acts so manly."

I've had a shaven head, and people say I act kind of manly, and I'm not lesbian...

Mary wrote: "Brittany wrote: "Maybe Lynn is Bisexual, b/c she did have a romantic connection to Uriah as much as she did Marlene."


When did you notice a romantic connection between Lynn and Uriah? I did not p..."

It was around the scene with Uriah and Marlene at the dining hall and Lynn showed jealousy to both Marlene and Uriah, and her death scene, but its kind of hard to explain that one. Sorry.

yeah I have to agree with you guys about how her shaving her head was a little... uh... different. I think being lesbian would bother Lynn. Maybe she did cut her hair to avoid boys and look more masculine. But if it really bothered her that much, why didn't she let it grow long and not draw attention to herself?
And I sort of picked up on the whole romantic connection to Uriah, but that was only because I initially thought it was Uriah she was attracted to and not Marlene.

It's very clear that the author intended us to know that Lynn is gay. That is the only explanation and I think it's very obvious. There was never any romantic connection between Lynn and Uriah. I think people just assumed that because Lynn was jealous of his relationship with Marlene... I for one assumed she loved Uriah, but realized I was wrong after that last statement by Lynn before dying.

I agree. I think Lynn and Uriah were just really close friends. I assume that where Uriah pleas to save Lynn at her death bed is where the 'connection to Uriah' is forged. But Marlene had died so Lynn, and I suppose Tris, were all he had left by way of best friends. So I can understand Uriah's desperation to save his friend.

I picked up on that right away! I think that Lynn is a lesbian and I was so happy when she said that!

Wowowoowwoowo i am impressed i didnt took it like that, i thought it was inconclusive and that it was going to be told (what lynn meant) in the third book. Thanks for saying ittt

Lol I sound stupid for not realizing that Lynn is lesbian even when I read her death scene .__. Now that you guys point it out, I think it sorta make sense too. But not all girls with shaved head are lesbian though...

Kezia wrote: "Lol I sound stupid for not realizing that Lynn is lesbian even when I read her death scene .__. Now that you guys point it out, I think it sorta make sense too. But not all girls with shaved head a..."

it's okay...You're not alone...agreed
I didn't want Lynn to die though...She was one of my favorite characters...Stubborn but nice ):

Yeah no-one wanted her to die. I liked her too. I thought she was awesomely bad ass :)

Mary wrote: "Brittany wrote: "Maybe Lynn is Bisexual, b/c she did have a romantic connection to Uriah as much as she did Marlene."


When did you notice a romantic connection between Lynn and Uriah? I did not p..."
Uriah is actually a biblical name. It's the name of Bathsheeba's husband. It's a good story. David is being a horrible king, and commits adultery with Uriah's wife, and she gets pregnant. Uriah is summoned home from war by David, and David lets him drink and get drunk so hopefully he will sleep with his wife and people can assume the baby is Uriah's. But even in his drunken state, Uriah is loyal to David and his men, so he sleeps on the steps of the palace with the servants while his friends fight. He had such a good heart, and David ended up killing him so he could legally take his wife. Even until the very end Uriah was admirable and obedient. It's a name with a legacy behind it.

Rosalie wrote: "Mary wrote: "Brittany wrote: "Maybe Lynn is Bisexual, b/c she did have a romantic connection to Uriah as much as she did Marlene."


When did you notice a romantic connection between Lynn and Uriah..."

totally sorry, commented on wrong one! :)
Meant to comment on the one about Uriah's name!

Mairead wrote: "Did anyone notice that Uriah is a really weird name or maybe I'm just pronouncing it wrong."

Uriah is actually a biblical name. It's the name of Bathsheeba's husband. It's a good story. David is being a horrible king, and commits adultery with Uriah's wife, and she gets pregnant. Uriah is summoned home from war by David, and David lets him drink and get drunk so hopefully he will sleep with his wife and people can assume the baby is Uriah's. But even in his drunken state, Uriah is loyal to David and his men, so he sleeps on the steps of the palace with the servants while his friends fight. He had such a good heart, and David ended up killing him so he could legally take his wife. Even until the very end Uriah was admirable and obedient. It's a name with a legacy behind it.

Allyson wrote: "It's very clear that the author intended us to know that Lynn is gay. That is the only explanation and I think it's very obvious. There was never any romantic connection between Lynn and Uriah. I t..."
I felt the whole thing was just kind of thrown out there...

haha actually, that info about Uriah's name is really interesting! And I think it really suits him :)
As for the whole thing about Lynn being thrown out there, I don't think it was too sudden... there were little hints throughout the books.

Blujeanbooks96 wrote: "haha actually, that info about Uriah's name is really interesting! And I think it really suits him :)
As for the whole thing about Lynn being thrown out there, I don't think it was too sudden... th..."

Well, I didn't notice those hints until I saw this discussion... >_<

Kezia wrote: "Blujeanbooks96 wrote: "haha actually, that info about Uriah's name is really interesting! And I think it really suits him :)
As for the whole thing about Lynn being thrown out there, I don't think ..."

haha isn't it funny how you don't really notice something unless you're looking for it? if you're thinking of it you pick up on it, but if it never crosses your mind the hints just go straight over your head!

Blujeanbooks96 wrote: "Kezia wrote: "Blujeanbooks96 wrote: "haha actually, that info about Uriah's name is really interesting! And I think it really suits him :)
As for the whole thing about Lynn being thrown out there, ..."

Well, when I read about Uriah&Marlene scene where Lynn got annoyed, I thought it was because she would feel lonely if her bestfriends were a couple she's sorta left out. It could be a hint that Lynn is gay (besides the one near her death)but I hope Veronica will tell us in the third book! Now I got curious too...
October please come fassttt

At first i thought she liked Uriah, but after taht line, im pretty sure she was a lesbian

geesh! now i have to look up books before I read them bc all these authors (specifically the female ones) keep putting homosexuality in their books!!!!

I thought she liked Uriah, but it turned out she loved Marlene. I mean it wasn't that surprising to me because Lynn had always acted butchy. I don't think it came as a surprise to me that she was a lesbian.

I thought she was lesbian all through Insurgent, but her death scene definitely confirmed it for me. The hair and attitude were contributing factors. Obviously not all lesbians have short hair and act tough, but statistically a lot do. Anyone remember the conversation Lynn had with Tris after Marlene died but Tris saved her brother Hector? She thanked Tris and was acting awkwardly while talking about Marlene. Something like "I...uh liked Marlene and all..but thanks for saving Hec."

Line wrote: "To me, it definately says that Lynn was gay...

And I have to say, that I love VR for saying it, without really saying it, if you get what I mean..."

Definitely.

Given little clues throughout the book would suggest Lynn was...different. But after the last comment she made in the end of the book, it finally put things together. If I remember correctly, wasn't she the one giving weird looks when Uriah and Marlene would kiss?

Anyhow, yeah, that threw me off a bit either way. Interesting...

Joshua-caleb wrote: "geesh! now i have to look up books before I read them bc all these authors (specifically the female ones) keep putting homosexuality in their books!!!!"

I guess the author wanted to add a bit of diversity to the page or at least a surprise factor. But I see what you mean...

Mairead wrote: "I agree she was a lesbian. But dose anyone remeber when Tris asked her why she cut off her hair and she said (I don't have the book with me so Im not exactly sure what she said) it was cause guys w..."

She said she didn't want guys to see her as vulnerable, I think...but she could have easily done it because she didn't like the idea of them asking her out.

Is it only me that think differently that lynn loves uriah .lol. Or maybe i'm way too absorb. I dont know but i just feel that from the way lynn said it that she was meant to tell uriah that she knows uriah loved marlene and she loved her too but i think it is to show us that lynn loved uriah (?) i dont know but after reading your comments it makes sense too that lynn could possibly be lesbian ..

I think that się wanted for URiah to find someone to be with, and shie pointed out to him (this way), that Marlene is good form him, and as she loved her, she wouldn't mind them being together (wherever she went after dying).

I thought... she was lesbian... but she died already. Let's just ask Veronica Roth. :)

I think maybe Lynn was lesbian, because what else could she have meant?

Yeah. Lynn was lesbian. After what she said before she died, a flashback came to my mind when she was jealous or annoyed when Marlene and Uriah have romantic relationship. I was surprised.lol

i cant belive i never cought on while i was reading the books but yeah agree with all of you guys

i never actually thoight about it uintill now hopefully veronica will explain this

Christie wrote: "i cant belive i never cought on while i was reading the books but yeah agree with all of you guys"

Yeah I never did catch on until Lynn actually said it. oh well :P

Well, yeah. She definitely is- or at least just in love with Marlene. She could be bisexual,

Joshua-caleb wrote: "geesh! now i have to look up books before I read them bc all these authors (specifically the female ones) keep putting homosexuality in their books!!!!"

Is there a problem with it??

Throughout the book I assumed that Lynn had a crush on Uriah and was jealous because of that, but after her death scene I concluded that she was a lesbian or bisexual and in love with Marlene, too.
But am I the only one who thought that it was kind of a weird moment to reveal it? She is dead now, so it can't have an impact on the story anymore. And, really, why come out while dying? Somehow I can't imagine that this really is the thing you want to get off your chest during your last moments? So I'd really loved it if it would have been a topic earlier in the book.

i kinda get why she revealed it then. it seemed random but maybe she had been scared to confront it and now she did?

Kezia wrote: "Blujeanbooks96 wrote: "Kezia wrote: "Blujeanbooks96 wrote: "haha actually, that info about Uriah's name is really interesting! And I think it really suits him :)
As for the whole thing about Lynn b..."

Kezia wrote: "Blujeanbooks96 wrote: "Kezia wrote: "Blujeanbooks96 wrote: "haha actually, that info about Uriah's name is really interesting! And I think it really suits him :)
As for the whole thing about Lynn b..."

hope you have read it as it is really good and if you haven't then go to your nearest book store and buy it, or go to a library if you want, whenever you can. :D