Allegiant (Divergent, #3) Allegiant question


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Was this book spoiled for you?
wildflower wildflower Oct 26, 2013 09:08PM
I know for a lot of people, this book was spoiled. It kind of was for me. (All I saw online were things like "She really was weak" and "'See you soon', the words that killed the Divergent fandom" and I figured out that Tris was going to die. It was that easy).
But the book wasn't spoiled for everyone. My question is: Was this book spoiled for you? If so, what was spoiled? How did knowing the ending make you feel as you read the book?
I wonder if those who didn't know the ending have a slightly different reaction. Probably more shocking, right?



The question should did this book spoil the series for you. Yes it did I could never touch let alone read divergent the strongest of the 3 with out thinking Tris is a dead girl walking.


It wasn't just the ending that spoiled the series--it was the entire book! From start to finish, I felt as if I was reading an entirely different series, written by an entirely different author, with an entirely different theme.

To me, the theme of the first two books was about fear and love. The theme to Allegiant--well, there wasn't really a theme. It was a Helter Skelter of a mess. The plot was rushed, it felt void--it was like reading a self published novice fiction novel. It was not in the least bit seamless with the other two books.

Everything changed (for the worst) when the factions lost their mystique upon finding out that they were nothing more than a wicked government experiment. (Ms. Roth should have kept the mystique going).
The best part of the book to me was when Tris became 6 (if you know what I mean. That was LONG overdue.)

Also, another thing that killed this book for me was the fact that all the main characters seemed to have regressed. All the lessons learned in the first two books seemed to have gotten lost in translation.

It was just a different series. That whole GD/GP thing should have been saved for a different book altogther. (The genetics fiasco could have made a good book if it was apart from this series and these particular characters).

Ugh!! Ms. Roth could have kept this one to herself. It killed EVERYTHING that the first two books worked so hard to steal my heart with. I've been drowning my sorrows by reading Fanfiction.


I have a fan account on instagram, well actually a few (@editingthe_fandoms, @catching_divergentx, @reclaimingerebor and @fangirldesires_) and so I was on the divergent hashtag so I could make some edits. I came across a little edit with the spoiler 'Tris dies' I quickly clicked the back button and was upset. Like wHYYYYY WOULD YOU FLIPPEN SAY THAT! Thats why I told my friends to not go on anything related to Divergent! I find it sooo annoying. But even still I cried for like 20 mins. Veronica Roth still makes your heart break in a million pieces. It's sadly beautiful.


deleted member Dec 22, 2013 05:46PM   1 vote
For me it was more like
Friend: what are you reading
Me: allegiant
Friend: oh that's the one where Tris dies
Me: ...


My sister read the book and called me in the middle of the night.
Sister: "Oh *sob* My *sob* God! I can't believe she died! Why didn't you warn me?"
Me: "Because I haven't finished it yet. I just got to the part where they left the town... wait! Who died?"
Sister: "uuuuhm. good night. Call you later."

I kind of had a nagging feeling that Tris was going to die. Especially because of the quote: I guess a fire that burns that bright is never meant to last.

After that I kept thinking - why is she going to die? And frankly - the reason was a little uuhm... bad. It was like the author tried to find a reason to kill Tris - or that Tris was suicidal.

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Lex I was sobbing like your sister.
Dec 09, 2017 12:07PM · flag

Elektra wrote: "I know for a lot of people, this book was spoiled. It kind of was for me. (All I saw online were things like "She really was weak" and "'See you soon', the words that killed the Divergent fandom" a..."

Yeah, someone on youtube spoiled it, and I'm barely on page 330 of Insurgent.


Autumn (last edited Oct 05, 2019 08:06PM ) Oct 05, 2019 08:05PM   0 votes
FREAKING PINTEREST SPOILED IT! I saw this one post about how "VERONICA IS A MURDERER" and I knew it was gonna be Tris. I still cried when she died though, no I SOBBED. Books aren't supposed to control your life, you're supposed to be able to escape into books, this did for me. The book actually made me depressed when she died, I would cry for hours like she was my best friend or something, it was bad. I couldn't read for a month. And do you know why? Because of the "Happily ever after", there was none, I am just so used to the couple being together in the end that I was thrown off when she died. Allegiant de-railed my life for a while, but still, after all that, one of my favorite books. Do you know how much I have to know a character to care for them that much and sob when they die. I didn't cry when Al died, didnt care when Will died. I had found out so much about her that to me she was my friend, thats really hard for me to achieve in a book so good job Veronica Roth :)


i walk into class
friend: omg he dies!
me: wtf man! i wasn't up to that part yet.

worst thing: i was only on the second book, so the whole time it took to finish the series i was just like, "she's going to die. She's really going to die."

honestly, i was waiting for that moment. the part that made me tear up a bit was when four found out. that was just crazy sad. for me, forget tris, four's a way better character.


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The book was spoiled for me thanks to instagram comments like "Veronica Roth is a MURDERER" and stuff so I figured out that either Tris or Tobias died. It helped that I didn't exactly know who it was but I still read the book expecting something tragic to happen. So I kept over-reacting to everything (much to the amusement of my friends hahahaha). I must admit that I did cry when Tris was shot. And when Tobias found out she was dead. It was all very sad but all three books are still wayyyy up there on my list of favourite books ever. :)


BY THE WAY GUYS not even kidding but my friend told me that she read an interview with Veronica Roth and Veronica said that a year after the epilogue TOBIAS DATES CHRISTINA?!?!?!?! I'm still letting this sink in!?! Who's with me in thinking that this is totally wrong and evil?!


Yes! I saw it on Twitter and tried to ignore it, but then I had a bunch of other sources confirming it as well as my sister :/


This book was great, but I feel like it didn't affect me as much since EVERYONE ON PINTEREST IS FREAKING GIVING IT AWAY. I think people should at least say, "SPOILERS BELOW!" Because it pretty much ruined the book for me.


My friend spoiled these for me before I even read them! I had to wait two years so I could forget what she told me.

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Shemayah Drake If you were waiting a few year to forget, wouldn't you have remembered again when you did eventually read the book? ...more
Apr 07, 2018 02:38AM · flag

This was actually one of the very few books that I wasn't spoiled for by one of my friends or myself (I have a bad habit of reading ahead). A lot of people didn't like how it ended but I actually admire Veronica Roth for how she ended it. It left a lot of people in tears and in my opinion the best books are the ones that inflict some kind of reaction (tears, laughter, frustration, etc.)


Tris's death was simply heartbreaking. I would love the ending to ve changed. Tris can unite with Four in the end.


I wished the book was spoilt to me as if so I wouldn't have read it! Allegiant is the only book that I wished I had not read.
It is not only the ending that I hated, but also the plot was very confusing, the main characters were acting not like themselves, it almost seemed like another author wrote the third book. In same scenes I wished Katniss Everdeen could pop in the book to tell Tris to snap out of it!!!


It made me pay A LOT more attention to Tris and Tobias together because I knew Tris was going to die.


deleted member Dec 10, 2017 06:54AM   0 votes
I got spoiled on Tumblr... never going on there again


It was spoiled by Goodreads actually. I read a review that didn't hide spoilers. :l


Bubbles (last edited Dec 15, 2017 10:56AM ) Dec 15, 2017 10:56AM   0 votes
This book completely wrecked me, I have to say. I was heartbroken when Tris died, but I guess it didn't come as such a shock. My friend accidentally found it out online and told me that someone big dies and I was determined to not to spoil it for myself, but I was thinking no, it definitely can't be Tris, why would someone kill the main character? So yeah, I was stupid enough to look up character pages on the divergent fandom wikia page, and what do you know? When I scrolled down what it said on Tris's page was this: status deceased. Urghhhhhhh. Why did my favourite book character have to DIE? And Tobias's reaction was the saddest thing ever. 😭


Grrr, yes! I often read the books before watching movies, so as i was reading the book, (or maybe before, i cant remember) my friends were talking about the movie. One of them said : "Apparently she dies in the books." And that's what wrecked it. It was so dumb knowing the ending, although i didn't know HOW she died. It sucks knowing plot twists!!!


It was spoiled for me but I still sobbed myself to sleep when she died


Yeah, the ending was kind of spoiled for me. A lot of people I knew had already read it by the time I got around to it and there was a lot of stuff circulating on the internet. I actually don't know how knowing the ending influenced my perception of the book. I almost forgot about the spoiler and didn't really expect it to happen, honestly. I think it just made the book click a bit more in my head knowing that she was going to die.


If somebody spoiled this book for me, they would be dead right now and I would be in jail.


Yes :(

I was looking through Pinterest and found a post saying "It was so sad when Tobias spread Tris' ashes." and i was like WAIT, WHAT ASHES, WHAT WHAT WHAT. A few days after that, I told my friend I was reading Divergent and the first thing she said was "Tris dies at the end."


Yep started the first book. Looked on Pinterest for fan art and saw one of tris as a ghost. I do that all the time and never learn my lesson 😂


It sucked the author is pretty saying if you are suicidal and find a way of killing yourself thats honorable find a way to do so its okay a lot of children read this book pre teens and its a awful message!


Kristen (last edited Jul 16, 2018 05:15PM ) Nov 03, 2013 03:43PM   0 votes
The book kind of ruined the series...but not because of the way it ended. The author has the right to end her story the way she saw it ending in her head. But there were a lot of things that didn't make sense when you get to the last one that make the story unrealistic. Or at least inconsistent.


I have to say that I kind of saw that ending coming, Tris was kind of reckless. What I mad about is that Tobias lived, wall through the books we kind had this if you go I gho kind of vibe. She should let both die or killed both.


Lauren (last edited Nov 03, 2013 06:33PM ) Nov 03, 2013 06:33PM   0 votes
someone had posted on tumblr that they had been spoiled the ending that tris was going to die and i remember thinking "great. now not only youre spoiled but you had to share it with all of your followers."
but i actually ended up forgetting about until midway through the book when i was pondering over the fact that is was from both tris' and four's POVs. Then i thought that one of them would die and then i remembered the post!


I was almost spoiled about Tris' death, but I only get spoiled of what happened to Uriah and the things that did Tobias. But since the begginning i suppose that someone would die. Everyone commented "Prepare for the hell" or things like "enjoy it while you can".


I was spoiled about Tris' death. I read a comment here on goodreads that said "Tris dies at the end", literally.


Aditya (last edited Nov 04, 2013 12:15AM ) Nov 04, 2013 12:13AM   0 votes
There was way too much intimacy in that book. It seemed like the author was trying to stretch the book almost unnecessarily, and without much purpose.
Another book should have been added to the series; Tris's death reflects to me that the author wanted to get rid of a huge burden.
Also, I cannot digest the conclusion. After the memory wipe the government should have intervened. That part was hardly dealt with in the book; the ending was all about Tobias and his traumatized senses, followed by his recovery.
Analyzing Tris's death, one can say that why in the first place David didn't take proper measures, given how fanatic he is about the project. He relied on the death serum to do it's job, I presume, and I'll give the author that.
Well maybe Tris was killed so that series could be killed, finished, however you want to put it. If she were to stay alive, she'd not stay quiet until she would get rid of the GD label, given how rebellious she is. You might not agree with Tris's death, but it was in a way inevitable for the series to stay a trilogy.


It was spoiled to me but even then I cried because...well....I was really attached to the characters. And I agree with Koumamo, I feel so bad thinking about how Tobias is going to live.


The book wasn't spoiled for me but before it was released my number one prediction was that Tris was either going to die or get fractured.
The fact that Allegiant was narrated by Tris and Tobias hinted to me that one of them was going to die.
Also, I figured that Uriah was also going to pass. (He's my favorite character so I tried not to think much of it.) But when Tobias and Zeke were talking it was a dead giveaway that Uriah was going to die and I was reaallyyyy sad.


I saw a post on tumblr of someone saying how she would never forgive veronica for killing tris and that basically made me lose it but still that didnt stop me from crying my eyes out after actually reading it because why why veronica roth why


YES! And I was so pissed. I was on Amazon and someones review said "Spoiler Alert! Tris DIES!" Okay, thanks for that spoiler alert, douchebag. I still loved the books though.


My soul cracked a bit when Uriah died. But then Tobias became insecure. And then Tris died. The characters we loved all changed. It spoiled it. Still pretty good


Me too! It also makes me sad to think that her whole life before was an experiment.

But the book itself wasn't spoiled for me. My friend read it first and she was really good about it, she didn't tell me anything... Thanks, Janya!


Yup, I was spoiled with the most MAJOR spoiler: Tris' death! :( I read a comment on one of Veronica Roth's instagram photos so warn everyone you know who hasn't read the book that wants to that they shouldn't read comments on her instagram! :3


Rena (last edited Nov 09, 2013 07:38AM ) Nov 09, 2013 07:31AM   0 votes
Yes the book was spoiled for me, and I was so annoyed! I wish that readers who reviewed books would understand two things: reader reviews need not be a synopsis of the book, that's what the jacket is for, and never, ever give away the ending, or any important plot line for that matter. I read reviews to get a general feel about a book. If most do not care for a book I want to read I will borrow it from the library instead of buying it right away. All I ask for is a warning if the need too spill the beans is too overwhelming!


I got spoiled when I was re watching the trailer on youtube and looking at the comments and it sad tris dies in allegiant :(


YES> I am so mad, because that one book ruined it. I feel like there's a glass wall separating me from the fandom now. "Oh, that's cool...but those people are dead." It makes me so so so so sad. I want it back!! (my money, my time....me reading allegiant)


I saw that people claimed to "hate" Allegiant and that it was the worst one so I assumed it was something like that and asked my ex who had just finished it if Tris died like a martyr ... Not the most original story line and was predictable .. Still a decent read, but meh.. I was more affected by Tobias' response to her death than her death itself since she was sort of two dimensional anyway...


Yeah, I did have it spoiled for me. The series, and the ending.


Jessica (last edited Dec 24, 2013 08:39AM ) Dec 24, 2013 08:35AM   0 votes
I was in the minority that did not get spoiled of the ending.. I saw a post from Epicreads to watch out for spoilers, so once I read that I exiled myself from all forms of social media.. The internet was non-excited until I finished Allegiant..

I did NOT see Tris death coming, I felt like I got hit by a freight train, it hit me out of nowhere and knocked me flat on the ground!! I thought everyone was free game, but Tris, Tris was my safe one, my only safe one!! I sobbed for hours after reading Allegiant.. Once Tobias saw Tris body, I had to put the book down and cry for at least 30 minutes, I couldn't even read I was crying so hard..

I don't know how I would have felt about Allegiant if I would have known all the spoilers.. I'm eternally grateful that I missed the spoilers because I think that would have ruined the experience of the book.. And even though I have my problems with Allegiant (which is more than just Tris death), the Divergent series will always be dear to my heart and enjoyed the journey immensely!!

I hope this does not became a habit for people to spoil books BEFORE THEY EVEN COME OUT!!! There should be a spoil website were you can spoil all you want, but please don't ruin the book for others by being so inconsiderate and selfish!!!


Thankfully the book wasn't spoiler for me, but i couldn't even processed what happened through those chapters until i read the lines again and again, and then i got confirmed in GR


Oh, and I forgot to say, Tris' death was SO unnecessary. With all that she's been through with the Dauntless, she could have taken on a freaking legless dictating hypocrite.
Ridiculous!!


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