Terminalcoffee discussion

First of all Sonny and Cher HAD A KID?

Second, they named her CHASTITY?

Third, she wants to BECOME A GUY?

Holy shit!

Fucking strange. I read this earlier and laughed at humanity.

This isn't all that strange as far as I'm concerned other than being the first time I've seen somebody in the public eye transition.
Can you imagine how hard it is to come out as transgendered? A hell of a lot harder than coming out as gay.

Right. Absolutely, Sarah 432! I feel for the Willis/Moore kids too. We're all just people, in the end, doing the best we can.

Sally wrote: "We're all just people, in the end, doing the best we can."

That's for sure.

Rumer Willis is a HORRIBLE actress. I feel bad for her because someone, somewhere, told her she could act.

I have to admit I never heard of her before this. I'm so out of touch, y'all.

Barf. But at least she seems kind of normal...or at least hasn't anything bonkers of which I'm aware.

Yeah, she's much better off than her mother.

I don't know, y'all. She looks like a ninja superhero. That CHIN! Those eyes! She's tantalizing and lovely on the top half and manly and scary down below.

I'm a bit turned on and off at the same time. I guess she's slightly appealing, a bit below Tilda Swinton, but above others.

"Ninja superhero"?

absolutely. Ninja superhero. Like Lucy Liu and Mickey Rourke had an Wiley Wiggins-ish hot, lesbian daughter.

Makes sense to me.

We're no longer talking about Chastity Bono, are we?

Sorry, cannot resist this.

Is Chaz having an Addadichtomy?

Chaz is a cutie.

I loved this comment regarding the gender pronoun discussion at the end of the article:

I think it all depends on which department they buy their jeans in.

Cher is probably having a horribly difficult time with this. She struggled with accepting Chastity's lesbianism, so I'm sure she'll be devastated by all this.

Which is kind of ironic, considering how fervent a supporter of the gay community Cher has been in the past.

If she could turn baccccck timmmmme

I think it all depends on which department they buy their jeans in.

Who knew I was a guy?

I always think about that when I trim my nails short. Apparently lesbians have super short, unpainted nails.

That's how we can spot each other on the street.

:::looks askance at her own short, unpainted nails:::

*winks at Jackie*

:::looks down shyly, then up again through her lashes at Sally:::

:::squeee:::

Stop. Stop it right now. All this girl flirting...I want to sit quietly and treasure the moment.

Thank you.

::*brews Jackie a fresh pot of tea*::

I hope you're using loose tea leaves, Sally. No teabagging for me...

Ha!

...


er, we can't teabag. We're girls.







And now the thread has gone THERE.

Wowza are we on fire today!

:::crosses her legs primly, sips her tea and looks away innocently:::

Sally, Darjeeling?

Ooo! Thank you so very much. Do you also have a slice of lemon, I wonder?

Of course!

:::passes Sally the dish of lemons:::

Sugar?

Naw, thank you though, Turkish.


*sips tea daintily, pinkie out*





I'm sweet enough.

::sucks on lemon, makes facial expression that indicates that::

**::anorts tea::*

:::passes Sally a napkin:::

::Sher brings out the good tequila and lime slices::
I'm pourin'... who's drinking with me?

I have to say that becoming transgendered is something I can't even comprehend, but I admire the hell outta anyone fully intending on doing it. I've met a few and found that many, many of them are so bonkers that I don't think changing their physicality is going to make one whit of difference (except, perhaps to make their life even more screwed up), but the very few who seemed to have thought it through and were really at peace about it, they seemed some of the coolest, down-to-earth, secure people I've ever met.

I say good luck to her ... um, him.

::Takes a good ol' slug from the bottle - sans worm.

Cosmic Sher wrote: "I've met a few and found that many, many of them are so bonkers that I don't think changing their physicality is going to make one whit of difference (except, perhaps to make their life even more screwed up),but the very few who seemed to have thought it through and were really at peace about it, they seemed some of the coolest, down-to-earth, secure people I've ever met."

My trans friends are confident in themselves, and cool people. I don't know any who aren't better off physically or psychologically living as the person they felt they were meant to be.

This isn't meant to come across obnoxiously, but would a book help? I could probably recommend something.

Body Alchemy Transsexual Portraits - it's an art book of photographs by a man who transitioned from female, with essays.

On the more political side --
Gender Outlaw On Men, Women and the Rest of Us

Read My Lips Sexual Subversion and the End of Gender

And in a more abstract way, James Tiptree, Jr. The Double Life of Alice B. Sheldon - she wasn't trans, but I think some of the identity issues are similar.

Of course I'm the only one still on the subject, but here's a good piece from CNN.com
http://www.studentnews.cnn.com/2009/U...

I could have used this back in Chicago when the transsexual prostitutes used to try to pick me up while I walked to my car to go to work. We could have had better conversations than me constantly saying, "no, no, no thank you" and sliding into my Lesabre before locking all the doors.

Thanks for posting that article, Sarah Pi. It was poignant and eloquently written. (Awesome Donna Rose!) Now if we could only make the rest of the world read this stuff and start opening their minds.

i had a transsexual hooker grab my butt as i walked past in Honduras. i was too busy being mesmerized by the exaggerated eyebrows until it was too late and i had been goosed. i just went "heeeeeeeeeyyyyyy" and kept walking double time. he just giggled

Sally wrote: "I always think about that when I trim my nails short. Apparently lesbians have super short, unpainted nails. "

So do I.

Sarah Pi wrote: " Body Alchemy Transsexual Portraits - it's an art book of photographs by a man who transitioned from female, with essays.

On the more political side --
Gender Outlaw On Men, Women and the Rest ..."

here's some help for me! Thanks Sarah!

Gen Silent was a great documentary. There are interviews on youtube with the director/producer/cameraman Stu Maddox. It's about elderly LGBT and the lack of acceptance/acknowledgement in the health industry.

A friend of mine, David, is now Alaina. He was always beautiful dressed in drag. Now she's beautiful, as well... and she's been embraced by the Heights community (a combination of both VERY conservative and ultraliberal) where she sells insurance.