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message 1: by notyourfriend, ~Forgive Me~ (new)

notyourfriend (amemori) | 4058 comments Mod
Alright Joe, we all already know where we all stand on this one.


message 2: by The Phantom (new)

The Phantom (zerosummations) | 1052 comments We do. Since questioning you for evidence seems to have been fruitless, perhaps I should put forth some of the few arguments that exist against (and are not simple counters)?


message 3: by [deleted user] (new)

Phantom, I don't know if this will be helpful or not, but this video is very short, very concise, and a good way for you to see our views, perhaps explained better than we can explain. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ198A...


message 4: by The Phantom (new)

The Phantom (zerosummations) | 1052 comments I'm going out to dinner soon. I'll watch it later.


message 5: by [deleted user] (new)

Okay. I will respond to the other thread after you respond to the video.


message 6: by The Phantom (new)

The Phantom (zerosummations) | 1052 comments That's practically blackmail.
:(


message 7: by [deleted user] (new)

No! I mean that what you said in the Schools "education" thread can be answered in this video so it will be easier for me to respond knowing what you think. Sorry for the misunderstanding! D:


message 8: by The Phantom (new)

The Phantom (zerosummations) | 1052 comments It's fine. You over-react. XD


message 9: by [deleted user] (new)

I'm a girl. What do you expect? =P


message 10: by The Phantom (new)

The Phantom (zerosummations) | 1052 comments It's less your a girl...
More your a creationist.
As a rule, the nice ones overreact on account of trying to be too nice.


message 11: by Lostinwonderland (new)

Lostinwonderland Well what bout the revealing of Noah's ark?


message 12: by The Phantom (new)

The Phantom (zerosummations) | 1052 comments What 'revealing of Noah's ark'?


message 14: by The Phantom (new)

The Phantom (zerosummations) | 1052 comments Question:
Why has Britain not heard about this?
It seems fairly good news for British Christians, if true. So why was this news not broadcast there?
Thus I bring into question the validity of the article.


message 15: by Lostinwonderland (new)

Lostinwonderland Because they want to discredit us....


message 16: by The Phantom (new)

The Phantom (zerosummations) | 1052 comments Because who want to discredit you?
Whatever answer you give, that immediate and certain presumption points towards paranoia.


message 17: by Lostinwonderland (new)

Lostinwonderland The government... Look at what Phil Robinson said on duck dynasty! And how did they treat him? They said oh you can't say that... But MILEY?? Oh Miley.., she's aloud to do what she wants being and raunchy and stuff!


message 18: by The Phantom (new)

The Phantom (zerosummations) | 1052 comments I believe it's called freedom of speech and expression...


message 19: by Lostinwonderland (new)

Lostinwonderland Then why did they attack Phil and not Miley?


message 20: by Lostinwonderland (new)

Lostinwonderland If it's freedom of expression?


message 21: by The Phantom (new)

The Phantom (zerosummations) | 1052 comments I cannot say. I believe they were not right to criticise either.


message 22: by Lostinwonderland (new)

Lostinwonderland It's because they want to remove God from our nation


message 23: by The Phantom (new)

The Phantom (zerosummations) | 1052 comments Really? Have any of them said that?
Have any laws been proposed to this effect?
Has anything been legalised to allow the discrimination and or persecution of Christians?

And plus, you believe God is omnipresent. He thusly cannot be removed.


message 24: by The Phantom (new)

The Phantom (zerosummations) | 1052 comments And back to the actual point... Why not broadcast in the U.K?


message 25: by Lostinwonderland (new)

Lostinwonderland Yes... Because our government wants WORLD DOMINATION and that I do not know


message 26: by The Phantom (new)

The Phantom (zerosummations) | 1052 comments No, I'm fairly sure your government wants economic domination. Otherwise it would be far less peaceful than it actually is.


message 27: by Lostinwonderland (new)

Lostinwonderland It's more then that... Why is the media and the government doing the same exact eye symbol?


message 28: by The Phantom (new)

The Phantom (zerosummations) | 1052 comments What eye symbol???

Remember, I'm British. I don't watch Foxnews, or any American channel. I watch BBC.


message 29: by Lostinwonderland (new)

Lostinwonderland Hold on


message 30: by The Phantom (new)

The Phantom (zerosummations) | 1052 comments Holding.


message 32: by The Phantom (new)

The Phantom (zerosummations) | 1052 comments I see speculation. I see very little provable.
I see, what I frankly denote as propaganda.
Sorry, my opinion only.
But I can say this for certain.
No God = No Satan.
Thus Satanists have to at least recognise God, right?
And it also means that, as an atheist, I have no reason to recognise either.
Enjoy your conspiracy-filled United States!


message 33: by Lostinwonderland (new)

Lostinwonderland Then if there is no Christians there is also no atheists


message 34: by [deleted user] (new)

The Phantom wrote: "Really? Have any of them said that?
Have any laws been proposed to this effect?
Has anything been legalised to allow the discrimination and or persecution of Christians?

And plus, you believe God ..."


Good point with the omnipresent. See, God can't be removed. BUT the government and media is slowly taking God out of the picture...Schools starting to take God out of the Pledge of Allegiance, slamming a guy on Duck Dynasty for stating his opinion and yet not touching the people who slam Christianity. Our country is trying to remove God. And in the long run there will be consequences.

"Enjoy your conspiracy-filled United States!"

Look, see comments like that don't do anything. It just seems to show arrogance in thinking "my country is better than your country" etc. So could you refrain from comments like that? Even if that's not what you were getting at, it's how it reads.


message 35: by Lostinwonderland (new)

Lostinwonderland And back to my saying before.... They want to take God out because they want a new world order

FEMA camps have already started....


Like I've said before it all goes back to my surname Rhodes helping the rothchilds out by making the turntables


message 36: by Lostinwonderland (new)

Lostinwonderland And do you want to know what happend behind the whole Phil being blasphemed for saying that he is a Christian? The NDDA was passed without US knowing bout it....
And Obama? HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE CANNOT EVEN BE CREDIBLE!!! He is an illegal alien that I have no idea how in the world he got to be president
Do you even know why HE DID NOT put his hand on his heart during the pledge of allegiance?
Do you know why the all seeing eye is on the dollar bill and the media and policitans are doing the eye symbolism?


message 37: by Lostinwonderland (new)

Lostinwonderland Do you know why oujia boards are being sold as 'toys'?


message 38: by Lostinwonderland (new)

Lostinwonderland We are in a police state!


message 39: by Lostinwonderland (new)

Lostinwonderland Rant over....


message 40: by [deleted user] (new)

Mar wrote: "And do you want to know what happend behind the whole Phil being blasphemed for saying that he is a Christian? The NDDA was passed without US knowing bout it....
And Obama? HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE CA..."


I do not agree with Obama. I don't particularly like him, though it is not my place to speak disrespectfully about him. But complaining about our country is no use. Maybe in two years we'll get a better president. Maybe a worse president. God is in control and to him be the glory forever. All bad things will be used to fulfill his purposes.

Our country is a mess, but quite frankly other countries aren't doing much better than we are. And as Christians we know that one day every knee show bow and every tongue confess the name of Jesus Christ...that is our hope. So as Christians we should spend more time praying for our nation than complaining about it. =)


message 41: by Lostinwonderland (new)

Lostinwonderland I'm not complaining bout him... And no it's not gonna get better.... Sorry to burst your bubble but all you can do is keep praying that you and your family will make it through this... I do believe that He is coming back we just have to get through hell to get to him


message 42: by [deleted user] (new)

Mar wrote: "I'm not complaining bout him... And no it's not gonna get better.... Sorry to burst your bubble but all you can do is keep praying that you and your family will make it through this... I do believe..."

We can't make it better. God can, though. But right now we can pray and we can wait and we can make disciples of Christ.


message 43: by Lostinwonderland (new)

Lostinwonderland I'll get a link to prove that his birth certificate can't be proved as credible


message 44: by [deleted user] (new)

Mar wrote: "I'll get a link to prove that his birth certificate can't be proved as credible"

You don't have too. I believe you. But we can't do anything to change it.


message 45: by Lostinwonderland (new)

Lostinwonderland But he's not right now! There's going to be a false Christ which it might be the pope! Who knows... Or Obama himself


message 46: by Lostinwonderland (new)

Lostinwonderland I can and I will till the day I die


message 47: by brooke1994 (last edited Jan 10, 2014 10:23AM) (new)

brooke1994  (formerlynarnian525) | 2099 comments Abby, Nlaitrahfah wrote: "Mar wrote: "And do you want to know what happend behind the whole Phil being blasphemed for saying that he is a Christian? The NDDA was passed without US knowing bout it....
And Obama? HIS BIRTH CE..."


Right, I say we should pray for everyone, because it's God's intention that all people come to him. Jesus said he came for the lowly and undeserving, not the righteous.


message 48: by The Phantom (new)

The Phantom (zerosummations) | 1052 comments Mar wrote: "Then if there is no Christians there is also no atheists"

No. That's simply misguided. Atheism is the lack of theism. Remove theism and there is only atheism.

I'm going to ignore the Anti-Obama stuff.
He's trying to give people health care. And because of that Republicans are in outroar?! It will save lives. The end.


message 49: by Samantha (new)

Samantha Boyer (cravencyrus) I hate Obama.


message 50: by The Phantom (new)

The Phantom (zerosummations) | 1052 comments Why?


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