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message 1: by Nathan "N.R." (new)

Nathan "N.R." Gaddis (nathannrgaddis) | 414 comments Everyone likes the Thunder words.


message 3: by Gregsamsa (new)

Gregsamsa | 50 comments My fave in the whole book:

heirarchitipitoploftical


message 4: by Aloha (new)

Aloha | 51 comments I just ordered The Role of Thunder in Finnegans Wake. Can't wait until it gets here!


message 5: by Nathan "N.R." (new)

Nathan "N.R." Gaddis (nathannrgaddis) | 414 comments Aloha wrote: "I just ordered The Role of Thunder in Finnegans Wake. "

Nor should one miss the roll played by words of thunder which are less than 101 letters long. Donnorwetter! That Vicoian thunder will strike like lightening you can't see.


message 6: by Nathan "N.R." (new)

Nathan "N.R." Gaddis (nathannrgaddis) | 414 comments Ali, a little help?

Can you give us the page=citations for each of the ten thunderwords? It'd be nice if I could find them when I want'd one and it's almost time for lunch.


message 7: by Aloha (new)

Aloha | 51 comments Tsk, tsk...no one's helped Nathan?

From this beauteous book which is in my hot little hands, The Role of Thunder in Finnegans Wake:

1. The First Thunderclap: The First Technologies (FW 3-18.36)
2. The Second Thunderclap: The Prankquean: She (Stoops) to Conjure - Courtship by Piracy (FW 18.17-24.14)
3. The Third Thunderclap: HCE, The 'New Womanly Man' (FW 30-47)
4. The Fourth Thunderclap: The Fall of the Garden Itself (FW 81-93.22)
5. The Fifth Thunderclap: Belinda the Hen (FW 107.08-125)
6. The Sixth Thunderclap: The Phoenix Playhouse (FW 219-59): Retrieval and Revolution: Exits and Entrancings
7. The Seventh Thunderclap: Radio: tribalbalbutience: Hams and Eggs (FW 305-15ff)
8. The Eighth Thunderclap: Sound Film: The Royal Wedding (FW 318-34)
9. The Ninth Thunderclap: The Reciprocating Engine: Joy Sticks and Joyce Ticks (FW 403-419.11)
10. The Tenth Thunderclap: Television: The Charge of the Light Brigade (FW 424.23-4)


message 8: by Aloha (new)

Aloha | 51 comments First Thunderclap:
bababadalgharaghtakamminaronnonnbronntonnerronnuonnthunn-
trobarrhounawnskawntoohoohoordenenthurknuk

Second Thunderclap:
Perkodhuskurunbarggruauyagokgorlayorgromgremmitghundhurthru-
mathunaradidillifaititillibumullunukkunun

Third Thunderclap:
klikkaklakkaklaskaklopatzklatschabattacreppycrottygraddaghsemmih-
sammihnouithappluddyappladdypkonpkot

Fourth Thunderclap:
Bladyughfoulmoecklenburgwhurawhorascortastrumpapornanennykock-
sapastippatappatupperstrippuckputtanach

Fifth Thunderclap:
Thingcrooklyexineverypasturesixdixlikencehimaroundhersthemagger-
bykinkinkankanwithdownmindlookingated

Sixth Thunderclap:
Lukkedoerendunandurraskewdylooshoofermoyportertooryzooysphalna-
bortansporthaokansakroidverjkapakkapuk

Seventh Thunderclap:
Bothallchoractorschumminaroundgansumuminarumdrumstrumtrumina-
humptadumpwaultopoofoolooderamaunsturnup

Eighth Thunderclap:
Pappappapparrassannuaragheallachnatullaghmonganmacmacmacwhack-
falltherdebblenonthedubblandaddydoodled

Ninth Thunderclap:
husstenhasstencaffincoffintussemtossemdamandamnacosaghcusaghhobix-
hatouxpeswchbechoscashlcarcarcaract

Tenth Thunderclap:
Ullhodturdenweirmudgaardgringnirurdrmolnirfenrirlukkilokkibaugiman-
dodrrerinsurtkrinmgernrackinarockar


message 9: by Aloha (new)

Aloha | 51 comments From The Role of Thunder in Finnegans Wake, page x Preface.

Each thunderclap is 100 letters long, containing words for "thunder". The tenth thunder contains an extra letter, for a total of 1001 letters in all the thunderclaps, "a deliberate evoking of "The Arabian Nights, The Book of a Thousand Nights and a Night."


message 10: by Aloha (new)

Aloha | 51 comments Same page:

"Long loosely associated with Viconian cycles and Vico's theory of history, these enigmatic thunders turn out to be carefully crafted words, macroscopic puns that include terms from all of the languages used in the Wake. Moreover, each of the thunders has an exact purpose, a specific role to play in the drama of the Wake. Each thunder,...articulates words and themes from its context that echo and dramatize particular characters and events occurring in the wake of technological man."


message 11: by Nathan "N.R." (new)

Nathan "N.R." Gaddis (nathannrgaddis) | 414 comments Aloha wrote: "Each thunderclap is 100 letters long, containing words for "thunder"."

Just to say that the second half of that sentence is untrue. One of those thunderwords is built out of whores, or in Finneganese, queans.


message 12: by Aloha (new)

Aloha | 51 comments Nathan "N.R." wrote: "Aloha wrote: "Each thunderclap is 100 letters long, containing words for "thunder"."

Just to say that the second half of that sentence is untrue. One of those thunderwords is built out of whores,..."


The wording in the Preface is: "each apparently contains words for 'thunder,'"
I wonder why he made that mistake when the whole book, chapter by chapter, is devoted to each thunder. I'll have to see.


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