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First Lord's Fury - Codex Alera #6, by Jim Butcher

For Gaius Octavian, life has been one long battle. Now, the end of all he fought for is close at hand. The brutal, dreaded Vord are on the march against Alera. And perhaps for the final time, Gaius Octavian and his legions must stand against the enemies of his people. And it will take all his intelligence, ingenuity, and furycraft to save their world from eternal darkness.

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Chapter Breakdown

Date		Chapters		PPDQs*
March 14th	Chp.01 – ??		 ???
March 15th	Chp.?? – ??		 ??? 
March 16th	Chp.?? – ??		 ???

*PPDQs = Person Posting Discussion Questions

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I'm in

Oh good, it's a bit earlier in the month! I can hardly wait.

Lara wrote: "Oh good, it's a bit earlier in the month! I can hardly wait."

Lol me too

I'm still listening to the prologue. The Vord queen is very creepy talking and asking about love! And now she wants to "love" Envidia apparently by having dinner with her! eeep

Huh Gauis adopted Aquatain! I didn't think he would do that . This just makes Tavi's path to get the throne back harder. Or maybe he wasn't thinking of Tavi but what's good for Alera.

Why is Aqutain the princep and not the first lord?

ShoSho wrote: "I'm still listening to the prologue. The Vord queen is very creepy talking and asking about love! And now she wants to "love" Envidia apparently by having dinner with her! eeep

Huh Gauis adopted A..."

Yeah, the Vord Queen is super creepy and strong in this book.

And I think Gaius wanted to ensure stability at a time of crisis. He needed to leave things to someone. But, you can't be crowned First Lord until you're confirmed by the senate.

Lara wrote: "But, you can't be crowned First Lord until you're confirmed by the senate. "

aah ok I didn't know that

Chapter 6
The baby queen is even creepier !

Oh wow !Go Tavi!

Chapter 8
(view spoiler)[ Noooooooooo The Vord have Isana!!! I didn't think they would do or be capable of getting into the stronghold to get their hands on her.
Aldrik and Odiana story was very interesting. (hide spoiler)]

Kitai's reaction was funny and surprising at first but she's right. What Tavi is doing is cute :) I'm loving their courtship

WTH? Grandmother??????????????????????? As in the Vord queen is Tavi's and Kitai's child??? Is that why she resembles her and Isana's sister?

ShoSho wrote: "Chapter 8
Noooooooooo The Vord have XXXX!!! I didn't think they would do or be capable of getting into the stronghold to get their hands on her.
Aldrik and Odiana story was very interesting."

I so agree! I had forgotten about this completely. The Vord kidnapping is really complex and intresting. And Odiana's story, well how dark. And Aldrick is definitely a grey area character.

ShoSho wrote: "Kitai's reaction was funny and surprising at first but she's right. What Tavi is doing is cute :) I'm loving their courtship"

And it's so sweet to include it in the middle of everything else. It's good that he's willing to take the time and effort to let her know he cares in the midst of all the craziness.

ShoSho wrote: "WTH? Grandmother??????????????????????? As in the Vord queen is Tavi's and Kitai's child??? Is that why she resembles her and Isana's sister?"

Well, remember what happened in the Wax Forest? I think that determined her shape. It is one of those circumstances when a small and seemingly meaningless action comes back in a really nasty way.

This book shows Butcher's brilliance at carrying events through the series. There are a number of situations that relate to events in previous books.

I finally finished listening tonight and now have to read the books that were due at the library today. I just downloaded the audio and didn't look at how long it was. It's long! However, I enjoyed every minute and am rather sad it's over.

Lara wrote: "I finally finished listening tonight and now have to read the books that were due at the library today. I just downloaded the audio and didn't look at how long it was. It's long! However, I enjoyed..."

Yep it's 23 hours! I'm listening at 1.2x speed a little bit faster not too much but I need to know what will happen next so bad :P

Lara wrote: "ShoSho wrote: "WTH? Grandmother??????????????????????? As in the Vord queen is Tavi's and Kitai's child??? Is that why she resembles her and Isana's sister?"

Well, remember what happened in the Wa..."

Both spilled blood and they formed their bond there so it does make sense but it still very creepy. To think all this would have never happened if Aqutain hadn't schemed with the Marat and planned to weaken Gauis and Tavi hadn't gone to the wax forest...

That was a surprise, Kitai being pregnant. I remember Tavi told Isana that they weren't doing anything that can Kitai pregnant. Maybe I'm mistaken. What they decided, does it mean they are not going to get married but tell everyone that they've been married since the wax forest?

Is Ehren really dead? I can't believe that he is :( I'm thinking Attis is either lying or he was lied to about Ehren's death!

He he he. You'll just have to wait and see on both! However, I had the same feeling about Ehren when I read it.

Lara wrote: "He he he. You'll just have to wait and see on both! However, I had the same feeling about Ehren when I read it."

:D

I just listened to the part where the Vord queen attacks Tavi's camp. That was scary .and Fuss died :(
I hope Tavi's injuries are not bad

I'm done.
I listened to the epilogue a second time this morning but what i really want to do is to start the whole series from the beginning and look for the "Aha" moments.

GAIUS TAVARUS MAGNUS, 1 AV. A first lord from Tavi's line year 1 after Vord , right? As in when they have destroyed the 3rd queen right?

From Tavi's convo with Alera I gather he's doing something to enable the Marat and Canim to do fury crafting and for the Alerans who don't have much fury crafting to expand they abilities.

I like to think Crasus will eventually forgive Tavi. BTW so glad that their father survived.

High lord Varg LOL

Haahaa They are actually eating the croach! A good way to get read of it.

I loved the name of their son Desiderius .

After Tavi severed the queen's connection with Gardos and Thana he told Kitai to talk to Alera to see what she can do about them .So I'm thinking Kitai could have bonded with them and is the one keeping them quiet.

GAIUS TAVARUS MAGNUS, 1 AV. A first lord from Tavi's line year 1 after Vord , right? As in when they have destroyed the 3rd queen right? I think it's Tavi's 1st year in office. And I think it's awesome that he adopted his Canim name rather than using his full name. Since he didn't grow up knowing he was Octavius, I can see how it would not have much meaning for him. But still... The scene when he found out the meaning of Tavar was priceless!

From Tavi's convo with Alera I gather he's doing something to enable the Marat and Canim to do fury crafting and for the Alerans who don't have much fury crafting to expand they abilities. It sounded like Alera did something to balance power and ability with smarts. I'm not sure what that would mean.

I like to think Crassus will eventually forgive Tavi. BTW so glad that their father survived. Me too.

High Lord Varg LOL I know. It's awesome. He's such a great character.

Haahaa They are actually eating the croach! A good way to get read of it. Yeah, that one is funny. And gross too. Well, they did a lot of damage to the land and do need to get rid of it. But eeww.

I loved the name of their son Desiderius . Yes, it's wonderful to be named for how your parents feel about you rather than who they want you to be.

After Tavi severed the queen's connection with Garados and Thana he told Kitai to talk to Alera to see what she can do about them .So I'm thinking Kitai could have bonded with them and is the one keeping them quiet.
I'm right there with you ShoSho, I love this series. There is so much depth and complexity. It has tension without being dark and gloomy. And even the villains mostly (mostly) are complex enough that you don't end up hating them even as you continue to want them to fail.

Good point about the villains. I don't hate the Vord queen and Aquatain too much!

ShoSho wrote: "Good point about the villains. I don't hate the Vord queen and Aquatain too much!"

Same here. And while I find Invidia repulsive, I rather understand her and pity her inability/struggle to be more than she is. At the end she seems to really despise herself, doesn't she?

She does!
JB is great with creating characters!