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Enlightenment
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Enlightenment by Liz Keel -- Starting May 20th 2016
Excellent! I'm looking forward to reading Enlightenment with you, Gillian! Maybe I'll even move towards becoming "enlightened"...
Hello everyone! I'm really excited about the buddy read for Enlightenment that's starting tomorrow. Thank you for saying you'll participate and I'm really interested to know what you think. Please ask any questions you may have.Happy reading!
Liz x
Gillian wrote: "Having a bit of an early peak at this book i did not expect Thea to be [spoilers removed]":)
Chapter 1 (4%)I like the story so far. I like that we are plunged into the mystery and have to figure out a way to swim to the surface…
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TJ wrote: "Chapter 2 (6%)I suspected when Eli’s mother told him to “stay safe” on the way to school that there was something they knew that Thea didn’t.
So Eli has some kind of paranormal powers. And so do..."
I wondered that myself as they were strong enough to save herself why couldn't she save her parents.
TJ wrote: "Chapter 1 (4%)I like the story so far. I like that we are plunged into the mystery and have to figure out a way to swim to the surface…
Tragic start. But the mood isn’t tragic, which imho is a..."
I agree I'm tired of all the broody MC and the mushy immature romance so far this one has only touched on a crush and has not gone over the top with it so thats great :)
Gillian wrote: "I agree I'm tired of all the broody MC and the mushy immature romance so far this one has only touched on a crush and has not gone over the top with it so thats great :)"
I know, right?! The broody MC has her/his charm... for about 2 seconds. Then it gets old. Especially if the tragedy has happened before the book starts and I can't really feel the loss because I wasn't yet involved in the story and I hadn't yet developed a vested interest in the MC's well-being...
Refreshingly, that is not the case here. The story moves on quite quickly -- and that's my kind of story.
...and yes, Eli is a looker, but he's what, like 100 years older than Thea... ;)
I have a non-spoiler related question. Do young people use the word “whilst”? It sounds so Elizabethan to me. I’ve read it a dozen times so far in this book and every time I read it, it throws me off a bit. I don’t know what country Thea is from – she was supposed to travel through India with her parents (so maybe she’s Indian?), but she lives in Montana – and I don’t think a teenager in Montana would use “whilst”… Her language sounds otherwise like an average American teenage dialect. Okay, I did a bit of digging to answer my own question.
Whilst I don’t usually recommend using Wikipedia a point of reference, all the sources cited here are legit:
Whilst
In standard British English and Australian English, whilst, as a conjunction, is synonymous with although, whereas, but or while.
The usage of whilst is chiefly British. For example, the BBC World Service website "Learning English", in their "Ask about English" section, uses the word whilst when explaining the usage of "while and whereas".
In American English and Canadian English, whilst is considered to be pretentious or archaic.[6]
Some publications on both sides of the Atlantic disapprove of whilst in their style guides (along with "amidst" and "amongst"); for example:
• Times Online Style Guide: "while (not whilst)"[7]
• Guardian Style Guide: "while not whilst"[8]
• Hansard: the Canadian Parliament record: "while not whilst"[9]
The American Heritage Guide writes that, "while using whilst runs the risk of sounding pretentious, it can sometimes add a literary or ironically formal note to a piece of writing."[10]
Practical English Usage by Michael Swan (OUP), a reference book for intermediate and advanced learners of English, does not include whilst but has several sections covering the usage of while.
6. Strunk, W., and White, E.B. The Elements of Style. 4th ed. 2000. Allyn & Bacon, Boston. Pg. 63-64.
7. Kelly, Jeremy. "Online Style Guide W". The Times (London). Archived from the original on March 31, 2007.
8. "Guardian Style Guide". The Guardian (London). 2014-01-26.
9. Hansard Association of Canada Style Guide
10. Company, Houghton Mifflin (2005). The American Heritage guide to contemporary usage and style. Houghton Mifflin Harcourt. p. 503. ISBN 978-0-618-60499-9.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/While
I just found this definition from the Urban Dictionary:
whilst: Anachronistic form of "while", used to create an illusion of intelligence or literacy. More often than not makes the user sound like a pretentious ass.
I always listen to Mozart whilst studying.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define...
...just sayin'...
TJ wrote: "I have a non-spoiler related question. Do young people use the word “whilst”? It sounds so Elizabethan to me. I’ve read it a dozen times so far in this book and every time I read it, it throws me o..."Haha, I love this! I just started reading and the word "whilst" was in the third sentence. I couldn't help but repeat the word in a fancy accent, lol!
Now I'm going to continue reading!
Kim wrote: "Haha, I love this! I just started reading and the word "whilst" was in the third sentence. I couldn't help but repeat the word in a fancy accent, lol!Now I'm going to continue reading! "
lol! I did the same! Whilst I recognize that I am hardly an expert in the English language, I have read a lot of YA books...
Maybe it's quite normal in Great Britain. I feel quite like a "pretentious ass" now for bringing it up... Sorry, Liz (innocent smile).
Thank you!Well, I'm done with CH. 1, and I wrote a few notes!
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And sorry it took me such a long time to finish one chapter! My puppy wouldn't let me ignore her and kept wanting me to play with her, lol!
TJ wrote: "Kim wrote: "Haha, I love this! I just started reading and the word "whilst" was in the third sentence. I couldn't help but repeat the word in a fancy accent, lol!Now I'm going to continue reading..."
Kim wrote: "TJ wrote: "I have a non-spoiler related question. Do young people use the word “whilst”? It sounds so Elizabethan to me. I’ve read it a dozen times so far in this book and every time I read it, it ..."
TJ wrote: "Kim wrote: "Haha, I love this! I just started reading and the word "whilst" was in the third sentence. I couldn't help but repeat the word in a fancy accent, lol!
Now I'm going to continue reading..."
TJ wrote: "Kim wrote: "Haha, I love this! I just started reading and the word "whilst" was in the third sentence. I couldn't help but repeat the word in a fancy accent, lol!
Now I'm going to continue reading..."
Ha ha! Yes very normal to use 'whilst' here in the UK! I'll go check its usage in book 2 lol whilst you continue to make make fun!
Did you see what I did there?! Am so funny ;)
Okay, I just finished ch. 3! And some huge things have been revealed!(view spoiler)
This is looking to be a good story. I'm done for right now, but I'll probably continue on later tonight!
TJ wrote: "Chapter 1 (4%)I like the story so far. I like that we are plunged into the mystery and have to figure out a way to swim to the surface…
Tragic start. But the mood isn’t tragic, which imho is a..."
TJ, I don't think you're heartless! Unless I am too... because I've had much the same problem. :P
Liz wrote: "Ha ha! Yes very normal to use 'whilst' here in the UK! I'll go check its usage in book 2 lol whilst you continue to make make fun!Did you see what I did there?! Am so funny ;)."
You are too funny, Liz! I'm still not very far along (I actually have work to do. They actually pay me Euros to do stuff...), but if Thea grew up in Montana, which seems to be the case, she should not be using "whilst" in her vocabulary. Just sayin'
(Disclaimer: I also use some pretentious language in my novel, but my young people aren't growing up in modern-day Montana).
siobhan wrote: "cup of tea and kindle and about to begin"Yay, Siobhan!
A glass of Chilean Cabernet Souvignon and my iphone and I'm about to start Chapter 3...
Kim wrote: "Thank you!Well, I'm done with CH. 1, and I wrote a few notes!
...And sorry it took me such a long time to finish one chapter! My puppy wouldn't let me ignore her and kept wanting me to play with her, lol!"
Puppies take precedence, Kim!
Welcome Kim and CallMeSensie so glad you both could join us. I have just had a good giggle reading all the comments. TJ I would never have picked up that using whilst was not normal as I'm Australian. Wikipedia was pretty accurate ;)
Kim I must admit i did a double take when she crawled into his lap also.
CallMeSensei The Iron King was the book that came to mind for me also when i started reading this. I will say i loved that series :)
Kim wrote: "Okay, I just finished ch. 3! And some huge things have been revealed!"You're darned tooten' some things have been revealed. Yowsy! (Now that's how they speak in Montana... just kiddin'... apologies to my Montana friends... ;) ).
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Gillian wrote: "TJ I would never have picked up that using whilst was not normal as I'm Australian. Wikipedia was pretty accurate ;)"See, that's why we needed people from at least 3 continents for this buddy read! I've learned something already...
TJ wrote: "Kim wrote: "Okay, I just finished ch. 3! And some huge things have been revealed!"You're darned tooten' some things have been revealed. Yowsy! (Now that's how they speak in Montana... just kiddin..."
You 2 are cracking me up this is such a good buddy group Liz you have us all invested in your book i plan on spending my afternoon off reading some more/the rest of the book.
Lol, I'm glad everybody is enjoying our commentary... I just finished Ch. 7 and am now going to eat a midnight snack and go to bed (as it is 12:30 here in Louisiana).(view spoiler)
Sorry for my enormous amount of notes and how much they were rambling, I get kind of weird when it's late at night.
I too am loving all the comments. Kim - I wonder if you were just hungry hence you're comments about Thea and her lack of food - with everything she has been through, food wouldn't have been at the top of her agenda! More the life changing news, gorgeous elves etc ;) Hopefully the midnight snack has helped!And I promise Eli and Isaac aren't old-men/perverts! For them, having a life expectancy of around 1000 years, means it isn't weird at all for them to go out with someone a hundred years or so younger.
Gillian - I'm glad you didn't think the use of whilst was unusual but I can so see what the others mean now.
Happy reading everyone!
I got started last night but didn't get far but I'll be picking it up tonight and knocking out a chunk of it
Liz wrote: "I too am loving all the comments. Kim - I wonder if you were just hungry hence you're comments about Thea and her lack of food - with everything she has been through, food wouldn't have been at the..."I guess I'm just too addicted to food, then, lol. I wouldn't let some pretty faces block me from my one true love! Even if they had pointy ears and super powers!
And I suppose I will stop harping about the age... But just know in my mind they are still creepy old man perverts. :P
I'll continue reading later on, I'm at my little brother's baseball tournament and they have no wifi here, lol.
Kim wrote: "Lol, I'm glad everybody is enjoying our commentary... I just finished Ch. 7 and am now going to eat a midnight snack and go to bed (as it is 12:30 here in LouisiKim i agree with everything
im done and i couldnt put it down omg. when is book two out please tell me its soon. also i kinda want food now lol
Sorry, Everyone! We took a road trip across southern Germany today -- so I got absolutely no reading done... I'll try to remedy that now, but it's after midnight... And I had waaaaay to much to eat today to read your food rants, Kim. Tomorrow on an empty stomach...Glad you loved it, Siobhan!
TJ wrote: "Sorry, Everyone! We took a road trip across southern Germany today -- so I got absolutely no reading done... I'll try to remedy that now, but it's after midnight... And I had waaaaay to much to eat..."and you didnt invite us all on a road trip??? :)
Siobhan, you are making me really excited to continue reading this! I hope I'll enjoy the book as much as you did. Right now it's about a four star for me, lol. And TJ, I'm really hurt, I wanted to go on a road trip too!! ;DI'll continue reading in perhaps an hour or so!
Chapter 14 i'm a little confused as to why (view spoiler) pity the story had to go down the mushy path i don't mind romance but hate all this mushy stuff :(
Okay, I'm back in the game! Sort of... well, I'm not road-tripping anymore, but I do have to work today... I got a few chapters read last night, though. Not as many as I had hoped because I binge-watched a couple episodes of my favorite TV series (Arrow) first -- i just have to do that some times... ;) But I have to say Enlightenment is really getting exciting! And I don't mind "whilst" so much anymore -- probably because it fits better in Faery... (I have a question about the introduction of the name "Faery," but I'll ask it in a spoiler).
siobhan wrote: "and you didnt invite us all on a road trip??? :)"
Kim wrote: "And TJ, I'm really hurt, I wanted to go on a road trip too!! ;D"
Hey! My book buddies are always welcome! Consider this a standing invitation: if you ever make it to Bavaria (Fränkische Schweiz to be exact), come visit! It is a very beautiful area here -- not just for reading, but also hiking, mountain biking, kayaking...
Gillian wrote: You 2 are cracking me up this is such a good buddy group Liz you have us all invested in your book i plan on spending my afternoon off reading some more/the rest of the book. "lol! This is a good group, Gillian! This is a fun way to read a book!
Liz, Gilian's right -- such a good discussion is a good sign. I've participated in buddy reads in which the conversation goes like this: "I just can't get into this." "Me neither, looks like a dnf for me this time..." That's definitely not the case here! :D



With the support of her new friends and a mysterious dark haired, blue-eyed guardian watching her every move, Thea will discover that when it comes to Faey, nothing is what it seems. Will her courage and desire to save this new world from darkness be enough? Or will Thea be the next victim to fall to the dark whispers of fate...