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Sonnets > Sonnet 86, Week 51, Feb. 13, 2018

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message 1: by Candy (new)

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Was it the proud full sail of his great verse,
Bound for the prize of all too precious you,
That did my ripe thoughts in my brain inhearse,
Making their tomb the womb wherein they grew?
Was it his spirit, by spirits taught to write
Above a mortal pitch, that struck me dead?
No, neither he, nor his compeers by night
Giving him aid, my verse astonished.
He, nor that affable familiar ghost
Which nightly gulls him with intelligence,
As victors of my silence cannot boast;
I was not sick of any fear from thence:
But when your countenance filled up his line,
Then lacked I matter; that enfeebled mine.


Janice (JG) Instead of being about rival poets and youthful beauty, it could also be a poem revering a poet so great that S cannot possibly live up to him... and that this great poet's subject is Love itself, or God, and is inspired not by a muse, but by the spirit of Love, and/or God. This poem could be addressed to God. I think several of S's poems have seemed to speak directly to God.


message 3: by Candy (new)

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Janice how very profound and lovely. I agree I see this poem in a similar spiritual manner. And the mention of ghosts and twice the word "spirit" seems to suggest this perspective.

I also see...it as a poem sorry....so opposite LOL...of impotence!

Or performance anxiety? On stage the fear of not being able to deliver...what gives one a sense of strength or fear when performing. It kind of made me think about the connections between poetry, performance and theatre....and sex!


message 4: by Candy (new)

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And I've also heard it said that this might be a poem about George Chapman...a translator(?) who intimidated and inspired Shakespeare.

I don't know/remember anything about Chapman though or the evidence....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_...

https://www.amazon.com/Chapmans-Homer...

https://www.jstor.org/stable/640882?s...

https://www.lrb.co.uk/v24/n12/colin-b...


Janice (JG) Candy wrote: "Or performance anxiety? On stage the fear of not being able to deliver...what gives one a sense of strength or fear when performing. It kind of made me think about the connections between poetry, performance and theatre....and sex!..."

Could be that too : ) S seems to have no limits when it comes to uncertainty and insecurity as a lover and a poet.


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