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VACCINE SCIENCE REVISITED
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Safety concerns for COVID-19 vaccines (including confirmed side effects listed)
Operation Warp Speed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operati... is a public–private partnership, initiated by the federal government of the United States, to facilitate and accelerate the development, manufacturing, and distribution of COVID-19 vaccines, therapeutics, and diagnostics. It is an interagency program that includes components of the Department of Health and Human Services, including the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), Food and Drug Administration (FDA), the National Institutes of Health, and the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA); the Department of Defense; private firms; and other federal agencies, including the Department of Agriculture, the Department of Energy, and the Department of Veterans Affairs. The project has a budget of at least US$10 billion.
Heated Vaccine Debate - Kennedy Jr. vs Dershowitz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfnJi...Heated vaccine debate between Robert Kennedy Jr. and Alan Dershowitz moderated by Patrick Bet-David.
re the upcoming Coronavirus vaccine...The liability protection in place since 1986 for all vaccine producers is a real worry..."Everyone Should Know This Before It's Too Late" - We are all In trouble https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBnNx...
Never mind analysis of the current vaccination process - it is all a way for Billy Boy to depopulate the world with toxins that cause health problems or make people infertile. The vaccine producers have been given immunity for liability, FFS !WAKE UP BEFORE ITS TOO LATE !!!
Exempting Big Pharma from COVID-19 Vaccines Liability https://www.globalresearch.ca/exempti...House and Senate leaders are discussing whether to include this exemption for COVID-19 vaccines under development in new legislation likely to be passed and signed into law in the coming days.
Most likely, tort liability protection for Big Pharma will be approved.
Vaccine side effects actually admitted to here by Gates...Gates Tries to Justify Side Effects of Fast-Tracked Vaccine https://consciouslifenews.com/gates-t...
Here we go...this is where the shit gets very real...Russia announces world's first Covid-19 vaccine, Putin's daughter gets vaccinated https://www.livemint.com/news/world/r...
"This morning, for the first time in the world, a vaccine against the new coronavirus was registered", said Putin
He emphasized that the vaccine underwent the necessary tests. He added that one of his two daughters has received a shot of the vaccine and is feeling well, according to Associated Press reports.
James wrote: "Here we go...this is where the shit gets very real...Russia announces world's first Covid-19 vaccine, Putin's daughter gets vaccinated https://www.livemint.com/news/world/r...-..."
From vaccine maker's POV it better be safe or guess who is off to Magadan?
Ian wrote: "From vaccine maker's POV it better be safe or guess who is off to Magadan?..."I get what you're implying about Putin and agree.
But just on the point about vaccines and liability...
Not sure about Russia, but in the USA you cannot sue vaccine makers. They are immune to prosecution thanks to a little known 1986 federal act protecting vaccine producers from liability. Same is true in many European nations I seem to recall.
When childrens' and adults' lives are at stake, being (financially) free of all safety concerns is charming stuff, dontcha think? Bloody good for business tho...
Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Protecting Vaccine Makers from State Lawsuits https://www.policymed.com/2011/03/sup...
"Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Protecting Vaccine Makers from State Lawsuits. The United States Supreme Court reached a decision recently, concluding that federal law protects vaccine makers from product-liability lawsuits that are filed in state courts and seek damages for injuries or death attributed to a vaccine."
"...the Supreme Court explained that the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 (NCVIA or Act) preempts all design-defect claims against vaccine manufacturers brought by plaintiffs seeking compensation for injury or death caused by a vaccine’s side effects."
Doctors lay out plan to ‘punish’ people who refuse coronavirus vaccine: ‘There is no alternative’ https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/doc...'Simply put, getting vaccinated is going to be our patriotic duty,' and America should consider making it difficult for the unvaccinated to participate in society, three doctors wrote.
August 11, 2020 (LifeSiteNews) – A coronavirus vaccine should be mandatory, and tax penalties, higher insurance premiums, and denial of many government and private services ought to be considered for those refusing the shot, three doctors argued in USA Today on Thursday.
James wrote: "Doctors lay out plan to ‘punish’ people who refuse coronavirus vaccine: ‘There is no alternative’ https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/doc......"Won't happen, except for the higher insurance premiums, and that will probably happen anyway. Of course, there is no evidence yet that a vaccine will work, nor that having the virus really conveys immunity in the long term.
Ian wrote: "Won't happen, except for the higher insurance premiums, and that will probably happen anyway...." Ian, what you say won't ever happen is already happening globally and has been for some time i.e. in many nations, the unvaccinated (especially parents of kids) already incur tax penalties, have to pay higher insurance premiums, and are denied numerous government services (such as childcare benefits) normally granted to low income households.
For example, in many nations (and here in Australia too) parents with unvaccinated children get taxed higher and have continuous reductions in their family benefit and/or family unemployment benefit IF they continue to refuse to vaccinate.
Here in Australia, this notorious law has been nicknamed the "No jab, No Pay" policy. Most other Western nations are implementing something similar and many non-Western nations already have mandatory vaccines by law (meaning you either get vaccinated or go to jail).
Government moves to toughen 'no jab, no pay' policy https://www.sbs.com.au/news/governmen...
What are immunisation requirements https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/...
Your child must meet immunisation requirements if you get Family Tax Benefit (FTB) Part A or child care fee assistance.
How this can affect your payments?
Your child must meet immunisation requirements to get:
Child Care Subsidy and Additional Child Care Subsidy
the full rate of FTB Part A.
Child Care Subsidy
If you get this and your child stops meeting these requirements, you have 63 days to start meeting them again. If you don’t, your subsidy will stop.
Your point, James. I was totally unaware that was happening in Australia.Interestingly, Kiwis going to Australia to work pay the same tax but do not get the same benefits. Maybe they are regarded as some sort of virus?
hahaha, yes Ian it can feel like we are a virus over here (fortunately I've blended in and my accent sounds more Australian these days).But it is a bit odd that Australians are treated so much better when they go to live in NZ. So much for the old ANZAC spirit!
James wrote: "hahaha, yes Ian it can feel like we are a virus over here (fortunately I've blended in and my accent sounds more Australian these days).But it is a bit odd that Australians are treated so much be..."
Hear! Hear! The Anzac spirit has been lost I fear. We treat our Aussie mates who live amongst us here in NZ like Kiwis with full rights and benefits etc. - as we should. Unfortunately this goodwill ain't reciprocated across the Tassie (Tasman Sea) in Oz.
Aussie Undergrounders... please bring this to the attention of your government...
Zat is an order. Zose who don't obey vill be vaccinated and microchipped!
Nanotechnology and nanomaterials...What can be hidden in them?COVID-19 vaccine development and a potential nanomaterial https://www.nature.com/articles/s4156...
Do WA's emergency health powers allow forcible testing, vaccination and removal of underwear of children? https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-1...
Australia should make any coronavirus vaccine compulsory for its 25 million citizens bar medical exemptions, Prime Minister Scott Morrison said today https://www.thejournal.ie/australia-c...
I've read that they are deploying drones in Melbourne to spy on people not complying with their draconian restrictions.
Who knows if U.S will try to make it Mandatory, not under Trump that is for sure. However,, I would refuse on the basis that that the "powers that be" would have to PROVE THAT I ALREADY HAVEN'T had it and for them to do that I would have had to agree to be tested which I will not,, and even then ALL CLINICAL TRIALS must have what is called INFORMED CONSENT.. that the patient must understand, read and retain a copy of what was given to them. That is the VERY REASON if you think about it,, that the UNPROVEN and FALSE CLAIMS about the Antibody/Plasma is so called not holding up past three months,, which is also.. LET'S SEE THE DATA. Yeah FDA and scientists know that scientist (like me) know that the first thing I would say is PROVE I HAVEN'T already had it.. which is why the mass testing for PRE COVID is important, but I wouldn't do that either unless I was sick.. those tests have tons of false positives because the nature of the CoronaVirus.. and also the company which manufactures the test kits. There are only a couple which can be trusted as far as I am concerned.
Renowned, board certified American pediatrician DR. Larry Palevsky's testimony at the CT Public health committee public hearing (concerning immunizations) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5JHQ...Especially illuminating is his statement that "studies show aluminum nanoparticles in vaccines stay in the human brain for years or decades"...
Paranoia at its best! Think about it. Would the powers ever sign off mass genocide under their watch?
Alexis wrote: "Paranoia at its best! Think about it. Would the powers ever sign off mass genocide under their watch?"Who said mass genocide was the only possible (nefarious) outcome here? I can think of dozens of others that are not as extreme as that.
The other way of looking at it is whether there are major problems with other vaccines? The real questions are is this one to be rushed through too quickly, will it work, and what are the alternatives?
Hello!It’s funny you should have posted this, as this antiquated piece of law popped up in the US, where I am, recently:
https://www.10news.com/news/local-new...
As someone who works in the public schools but has an extraordinarily hardy immune system (I haven’t been sick, even with a cold, in more than a year, and I do not get the annual flu vaccine [knock on wood]), I am hesitant to be vaccinated immediately upon its release but worry I will be forced to do so. I am a believer in children’s vaccinations and am not a conspiracy theorist, but I am also a pragmatist when it comes to scientific discoveries: we need to vet the vaccine first. I am not a guinea pig.
Alexis wrote: "Paranoia at its best! Think about it. Would the powers ever sign off mass genocide under their watch?"We may be paranoid, Alexis - but it doesn’t mean the ‘powers’ aren’t out to get us !
BTW, The ‘powers’ are not the governments, but the cabal of Globalist Elites running this scam who don’t give a toss about our health,
Their agenda has nothing to do with health, it’s all about controlling our lives.
This Covid-1984 vaccine will be quite different than any other vaccine ever. It is an RNA vaccine. It with restructure the DNA of anyone foolish enough to take it.
Anni wrote: "Alexis wrote: "Paranoia at its best! Think about it. Would the powers ever sign off mass genocide under their watch?"We may be paranoid, Alexis - but it doesn’t mean the ‘powers’ aren’t out to ge..."
Well said.
We currently have a group poll running on this subject...Vote now and have your say:
Do you plan to get the COVID-19 vaccine once it is available? https://www.goodreads.com/poll/show/2...
Dr. Carrie Madej warns of the nanotechnology used in the rushed vaccine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywuCR...
DRUG COMPANIES CONTINUE TO SHED LIABILITY FOR RUSHED CORONAVIRUS TREATMENTS https://theintercept.com/2020/08/28/c...At least 120 vaccines for Covid-19 are in development around the world. And each one holds its own potential for harm.
DESPITE EXPERTS’ REPEATED warnings that rushing a vaccine for Covid-19 could endanger hundreds of millions of people, President Donald Trump has made it clear that he wants to fast track a vaccine. His plan, reportedly, is to bypass regulatory standards in order to have a vaccine ready before Election Day. Such a move could bolster Trump’s claims that he’s saving us from the coronavirus, rather than worsening the course of the pandemic and causing tens of thousands of avoidable deaths — and presumably would help him win a second term.
But what will happen to the companies that make and market the vaccine if people discover they’ve been harmed by a product that was hastily brought to market? According to a law passed this spring, pretty much nothing. An amendment to the PREP Act, which was updated in April, stipulates that companies “cannot be sued for money damages in court” over injuries caused by medical countermeasures for Covid-19. Such countermeasures include vaccines, therapeutics, and respiratory devices. The only exception to this immunity is if death or serious physical injury is caused by “willful misconduct.” And even then, the people who are harmed will have to meet heightened standards for “willful misconduct” that are favorable to defendants.
https://theintercept.com/2020/08/28/c...
A Moderna (a Big Pharma corporation) March 2019 patent specifically references "a deliberate Coronavirus release" - what are the odds of that?EXCLUSIVE: Covid Vaccine Patent Warned of "Deliberate Coronavirus Release" 9 Month's Before COVID-19 https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_co...
Control of the medical narrative is being exposed here once again...FK Jr. Sues Facebook, Zuckerberg and ‘Fact-Checkers’ for Vaccine Censorship https://www.healthnutnews.com/chd-leg...
Facebook acknowledges that it coordinates its censorship campaign with the CDC and the WHO. Previous court decisions have upheld Facebook’s right to censor its pages. However, CHD argues that Facebook’s pervasive government collaborations make its censorship of CHD a First Amendment violation. The government’s role in Facebook’s censorship is more profound than its close coordination with CDC and WHO.
Oxford coronavirus vaccine trial on hold over 'potentially unexplained illness', AstraZeneca says https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-0...
James wrote: "Oxford coronavirus vaccine trial on hold over 'potentially unexplained illness', AstraZeneca says https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-0......"Who would have thought that possible ????
James wrote: "Oxford coronavirus vaccine trial on hold over 'potentially unexplained illness', AstraZeneca says https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-0......"Let's not get overly excited. A trial of 50,000 and somebody gets sick. The correct procedure is to investigate, but that is exactly the proper procedure and not a cause for over-excitement from the anti-vaxxers
Oh Ian - I do admire your child-like trust in authority when all around you indicates skullduggery on a grand scale!
One person in 50000 having an unexpected response is skullduggery on a grand scale? I don't suppose vaccine makers could possibly be interested in their own self-preservation? Let's wait for some evidence.
Anni wrote: "Oh Ian - I do admire your child-like trust in authority when all around you indicates skullduggery on a grand scale!"Technically Ian is correct. It is very common for (at least) 1 in 50,000 vaccine trialists to fall ill after being vaccinated and often it is not an illness associated with the vaccine. Even so, I remain nervous...
Lance, I would not be nervous until faced with the vaccine. Then, as things stand, yes I would be nervous too, but hopefully more information will turn up. If not, I walk and hope to avoid the virus.
Ian wrote: "One person in 50000 having an unexpected response is skullduggery on a grand scale? I don't suppose vaccine makers could possibly be interested in their own self-preservation? Let's wait for some e..."I’m not just talking about this statistic. And the vaccine makers don’t have to worry about their ‘own self-preservation’. They have that nicely covered with immunity from being sued for damage caused by their vaccines.
Anni wrote: "Ian wrote: "One person in 50000 having an unexpected response is skullduggery on a grand scale? I don't suppose vaccine makers could possibly be interested in their own self-preservation? Let's wai..."The self-preservation I was referring to is from the virus, not the lawyer. I know this is hard for some here to agree to, but the virus is deadly to the aged, and who is not planning to get old? You are entitled to your opinion that the virus will not hurt you, but others are equally entitled to view the statistics, and either the virus is eliminated or vaccines are available, or everyone will get it sooner or later, and like other cornaviruses, probably more than once. Vaccine makers can think ahead, as opposed to some others who cannot see beyond their personal wants today. Self-preservation is to give yourself an out as you age.
The scientists, mainstream medical and health professionals, and our leaders bless them, seem to overlook the indisputable fact that we, or most of us at least, have been blessed with a remarkably efficient natural immune system. A system which has stood us in good stead down through the ages and which until the 20th Century enabled us to survive without the aid of prescription drugs. Which is why I for one won't be queuing for the miracle vaccine we are assured is coming our way soon. (Before the presidential election if someone has His way). If my immune system was compromised I guess I'd have a different viewpoint...




Here's the group's broader discussion folder for vaccine research in general...
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/list_...
Also, it's possibly worth remembering there was a vaccine for the world's last pandemic: the 2009 Swine Flu (H1N1) outbreak...
2009 H1N1 Vaccine Caused Brain Damage in Children https://www.globalresearch.ca/video-d...
According to International Business Times UK in a 2014 report
Patients who suffered brain damage as a result of taking a swine flu vaccine are to receive multi-million-pound payouts from the UK government.
The government is expected to receive a bill of approximately £60 million, with each of the 60 victims expected to receive about £1 million each.
Peter Todd, a lawyer who represented many of the claimants, told the Sunday Times: “There has never been a case like this before. The victims of this vaccine have an incurable and lifelong condition and will require extensive medication.”
Following the swine flu outbreak of 2009, about 60 million people, most of them children, received the vaccine.
It was subsequently revealed that the vaccine, Pandemrix, can cause narcolepsy and cataplexy in about one in 16,000 people, and many more are expected to come forward with the symptoms.
Across Europe, more than 800 children are so far known to have been made ill by the vaccine.
Narcolepsy affects a person’s sleeping cycle, leaving them unable to sleep for more than 90 minutes at a time, and causing them to fall unconscious during the day. The condition damages mental function and memory, and can lead to hallucinations and mental illness.
Brain-Damaged UK Victims of Swine Flu Vaccine to Get £60 Million Compensation https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/brain-damag...