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Doors in the Walls - Dec 2020 > 6. The Theme: Joy

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message 1: by John (last edited Dec 02, 2020 04:03AM) (new)

John Seymour | 2318 comments Mod
6. Kreeft compares the progression from pleasure to happiness to joy to several different color progressions: yellow - blue - red; green - brown - purple; white - silver - gold. Did anyone of these "work" for you more than the others? How?

Alternate or different question: Kreeft uses several different metaphors and allegories in this section. Did you like one or did one resonate for you more than the others?


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Jill A. | 920 comments I found this chapter unfocused despite its length. On the final page, for example, he included Dracula, a syringe, a sword, sacrifice of Isaac, the hymen, being impregnated... All could perhaps point to a similar truth, but not very incisively.
The meaning of life isn't becoming "godlike." It's being fully united with God.
I don't think true joy "comes and goes." If we're connected with God who loves us, we can dwell in joy no matter the circumstances of our lives.
I don't think sex is such an obvious "door," at least in our era of casual hookups
I suppose other religions can approach these truths, but his examples seemed like a big stretch, equating things that are very dissimilar. Losing yourself in an ocean of nothingness is nothing like living in a love relationship with a personal God.


message 3: by John (new)

John Seymour | 2318 comments Mod
John wrote: "6. Kreeft compares the progression from pleasure to happiness to joy to several different color progressions: yellow - blue - red; green - brown - purple; white - silver - gold. Did anyone of these..."

I guess I'm not surprised no one tackled this question. I included it to see if anyone else had an insight, because I hadn't a clue.


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Fonch | 2493 comments Happy new years to the members of Catholic Book Club for a lot of years of good exciting Catholic readings :-).


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