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message 1: by Hugh, Active moderator (last edited Mar 30, 2021 10:08AM) (new)

Hugh (bodachliath) | 4455 comments Mod
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The full 2021 International Booker longlist is:

I Live in the Slums Stories by Can Xue I Live in the Slums: Stories by Can Xue, translated from Chinese by Karen Gernant & Chen Zeping, Yale University Press

At Night All Blood Is Black by David Diop At Night All Blood is Black by David Diop, translated from French by Anna Mocschovakis, Pushkin Press

The Pear Field by Nana Ekvtimishvili The Pear Field by Nana Ekvtimishvili, translated from Georgian by Elizabeth Heighway, Peirene Press

The Dangers of Smoking in Bed Stories by Mariana Enríquez The Dangers of Smoking in Bed: Stories by Mariana Enríquez, translated from Spanish by Megan McDowell, Granta Books

When We Cease to Understand the World by Benjamín Labatut When We Cease to Understand the World by Benjamín Labatut, translated from Spanish by Adrian Nathan West, Pushkin Press

The Perfect Nine The Epic of Gikuyu and Mumbi by Ngũgĩ wa Thiong'o The Perfect Nine: The Epic of Gĩkũyũ and Mũmbi by Ngũgĩ wa Thiong'o, translated from Gikuyu by the author, Vintage, Harvill Secker

The Employees by Olga Ravn The Employees by Olga Ravn, translated from Danish by Martin Aitken, Lolli Editions

Summer Brother by Jaap Robben Summer Brother by Jaap Robben, translated from Dutch by David Doherty, World Editions

An Inventory of Losses by Judith Schalansky An Inventory of Losses by Judith Schalansky, translated from German by Jackie Smith, Quercus, MacLehose Press

Minor Detail by Adania Shibli Minor Detail by Adania Shibli, translated from Arabic by Elisabeth Jaquette, Fitzcarraldo Editions

In Memory of Memory by Maria Stepanova In Memory of Memory by Maria Stepanova, translated from Russian by Sasha Dugdale, Fitzcarraldo Editions

Wretchedness by Andrzej Tichý Wretchedness by Andrzej Tichý, translated from Swedish by Nichola Smalley, And Other Stories

The War of the Poor by Éric Vuillard The War of the Poor by Éric Vuillard, translated from French by Mark Polizzotti, Pan Macmillan, Picador


message 2: by Hugh, Active moderator (last edited Apr 22, 2021 07:36AM) (new)

Hugh (bodachliath) | 4455 comments Mod
My adjusted weightings method:

Pos, Book, Average, Adjusted, Count, First Places, STD
1, When We Cease to Understand the World by Benjamín Labatut, 1.94, 1.11, 16, 12, 0.92
2, The Employees by Olga Ravn, 3.67, 2.82, 9, 2, 1.07
3, In Memory of Memory by Maria Stepanova, 4.11, 3.41, 9, 1, 1.42
4, Minor Detail by Adania Shibli, 4.88, 4.77, 16, 1, 2.07
5, At Night All Blood is Black by David Diop, 4.71, 4.97, 17, 0, 2.24
6, Summer Brother by Jaap Robben, 5.75, 5.17, 8, 0, 1.57
7, The Perfect Nine by Ngũgĩ wa Thiong'o, 6.00, 5.90, 11, 0, 1.95
8, An Inventory of Losses by Judith Schalansky, 5.73, 5.94, 11, 0, 2.06
9, The Pear Field by Nana Ekvtimishvili, 7.70, 7.23, 10, 0, 2.27
10, The Dangers of Smoking in Bed by Mariana Enríquez, 7.77, 7.62, 13, 0, 2.84
11, I Live in the Slums by Can Xue, 10.00, 9.00, 4, 0, 1.81
12, Wretchedness by Andrzej Tichý, 9.13, 9.64, 8, 0, 2.78
13, The War of the Poor by Éric Vuillard, 11.00, 10.73, 11, 0, 3.43

Paul-style aggregate of comparisons

Pos, Book, Average, Relative ranking, Count, First Places
1, When We Cease to Understand the World by Benjamín Labatut, 1.94, 97, 16, 12
2, In Memory of Memory by Maria Stepanova, 4.11, 41, 9, 1
3, The Employees by Olga Ravn, 3.67, 38, 9, 2
4, Summer Brother by Jaap Robben, 5.75, 11, 8, 0
4, At Night All Blood is Black by David Diop, 4.71, 11, 17, 0
6, Minor Detail by Adania Shibli, 4.88, 10, 16, 1
7, The Perfect Nine by Ngũgĩ wa Thiong'o, 6.00, 6, 11, 0
8, An Inventory of Losses by Judith Schalansky, 5.73, 0, 11, 0
9, The Pear Field by Nana Ekvtimishvili, 7.70, -16, 10, 0
10, I Live in the Slums by Can Xue, 10.00, -23, 4, 0
11, The Dangers of Smoking in Bed by Mariana Enríquez, 7.77, -38, 13, 0
12, Wretchedness by Andrzej Tichý, 9.13, -50, 8, 0
13, The War of the Poor by Éric Vuillard, 11.00, -87, 11, 0


message 4: by Paul (last edited Apr 17, 2021 12:42AM) (new)

Paul Fulcher (fulcherkim) | 13539 comments 1. When We Cease to Understand the World (5* 1/56)
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
2. In Memory of Memory (4* 5/56)
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
3. At Night All Blood is Black (4* 9/56)
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
4. The Employees (4* 12/56)
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
5. An Inventory of Losses (4* 16/56)
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
6. The Perfect Nine (4* 19/56)
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
7. Summer Brother (4* 22/56)
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
8. Minor Detail (3*-4* 29/56)
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
9. The Pear Field (3* 37/56)
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
10. Wretchedness (3* 40/56)
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
11. I Live In the Slums (3* 42/56)
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
12. The Dangers of Smoking in Bed (3* 44/56) https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
13. The War of the Poor (2* 56/56)
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...

The rankings x/56 are my rankings among all 56 of the eligible books I've read.


message 5: by Gumble's Yard - Golden Reviewer (last edited Apr 14, 2021 05:21AM) (new)

Gumble's Yard - Golden Reviewer | 10251 comments One left to read
Rankings so far

1 “When We Cease to Understand the World” – 5*
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
2 Minor Detail – 5*
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
4 At Night All Blood is Black – 4*
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
5 The Employees- 4*
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
6 - “The Perfect Nine” – 4*
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
7 - “An Inventory of Losses” – 4*
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
8 “Summer Brother” – 3*
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
9 “The Pear Field” – 3*
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
10 “The Dangers of Smoking in Bed” – 3*
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
11 – “I Live in the Slums” – 3*
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
12 “Wretchedness” by Andrzej Tichý – 2*
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
13 – “The War of the Poor” – 1*
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...


message 6: by Robert (last edited Apr 23, 2021 11:46PM) (new)

Robert | 2667 comments 1. When we Cease to Understand the World
2. The Employees
3. At Night all Blood is Black
4. Summer Brother
5. Minor Detail
6. An Inventory of Losses
7. The Pear Field
8. Wretchedness


message 7: by Ann Helen (last edited Apr 18, 2021 09:05AM) (new)

Ann Helen (bergenslabb) | 58 comments 1) When We Cease to Understand the World
2) At Night All Blood is Black
3) An Inventory of Losses
4) The Dangers of Smoking in Bed
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7) The Pear Field
8) The Perfect Nine
9) Minor Detail
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11) Summer Brother
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13) The War of the Poor


message 8: by LindaJ^ (last edited Apr 20, 2021 06:44PM) (new)

LindaJ^ (lindajs) | 1131 comments 1. When We Cease to Understand the World
2. The Employees
3. Minor Detail
4. In Memory of Memory
5. Summer Brother
6. The Perfect Nine

7. The Pear Field
8. At Night All Blood is Black
9. An inventory of Losses
10. The Dangers of Smoking in Bed
11. The War of the Poor
12. Wretchedness
13.


message 9: by WndyJW (last edited Apr 12, 2021 06:12PM) (new)

WndyJW 1. When We Cease to Understand the World 5*
2. At Night All Blood is Black 4*
3. Minor Detail 4*
4. Summer Brother 4*
5. The Perfect Nine*
6. The Dangers of Smoking in Bed 3*
7. Wretchedness 3*
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message 10: by Debra (last edited Apr 22, 2021 06:34AM) (new)

Debra (debrapatek) | 539 comments Not sure how much I will read from the list...

1. When We Cease to Understand the World
2. Minor Detail
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7. The War of the Poor
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message 11: by Cindy (last edited Apr 15, 2021 03:47AM) (new)

Cindy Haiken | 1931 comments Planning to read about half the longlist before the shortlist comes out. Seems a decent goal. Will edit as I go.

1. When We Cease to Understand the World
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4. At Night All Blood is Black
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8. The Perfect Nine
9. The Dangers of Smoking in Bed
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11. The War of the Poor
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message 12: by David (last edited Apr 22, 2021 12:50AM) (new)

David | 51 comments 1.
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13. In Memory of Memory


message 13: by B. H. (last edited Apr 17, 2021 03:19PM) (new)

B. H. (barbara_63) | 62 comments 1. The Employees
2. In Memory of Memory
3. Minor Detail
4. At Night All Blood is Black
5. When We Cease to Understand the World
6. The Dangers of Smoking in Bed
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13. The War of the Poor


message 14: by Billy (last edited Apr 22, 2021 04:36AM) (new)

Billy  | 16 comments I won’t get to all of them but will join in where I can.

1. When We Cease To Understand The World
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5. Minor Details
6. At Night All Blood Is Black
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11. The Pear Field
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13. The Dangers of Smoking in Bed


message 15: by Paul (new)

Paul Dixon (pvdixon) | 43 comments 1. Minor Detail
2. An Inventory of Losses
3. At Night All Blood is Black
4. The Dangers of Smoking in Bed
5. The War of the Poor


message 16: by Louise (last edited Jul 15, 2021 06:00AM) (new)

Louise | 224 comments Mine :-) Hope the libraries open soon :-)

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3. The Employees
4. At Night All Blood is Black
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message 17: by Neil (last edited Apr 13, 2021 01:49PM) (new)

Neil Bit late to the party because I wasn't planning to read any books other than the ones I had already read. But, the best laid plans... (what have men got to do with it?):

1. When We Cease to Understand the World
2. In Memory of Memory
3. Minor Detail
4. At Night All Blood is Black
5. An Inventory of Losses

Seeing as this ranking also corresponds almost exactly with the order in which I read the books, something tells me I should stop now!


message 18: by Roman Clodia (new)

Roman Clodia | 677 comments 1. When We Cease to Understand the World
2. Minor Detail
3. The Perfect Nine
4. At Night All Blood is Black

Planning to read In Memory of Memory but not sure when.


message 19: by Tracy (new)

Tracy (tstan) | 599 comments This is tough- depending on my mood, the top 11 could change places at any moment, but the bottom 2 will remain in the bottom.
1. The Employees
2. The Dangers of Smoking in Bed
3. When We Cease to Understand the World
4. Summer Brother
5. The Perfect Nine
6. In Memory of Memory
7. I Live in the Slums
8. At Night All Blood is Black
9. The Pear Field
10. An Inventory of Losses
11. Minor Detail
12. The War of the Poor
13. Wretchedness


message 20: by Margaret (last edited Apr 17, 2021 08:27AM) (new)

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2.At Night All Blood is Black
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5. In Memory of Memory
6. An Inventory of Losses
7. Minor Detail
8. Dangers of Smoking in Bed
9. Pear Field
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message 21: by Sam (new)

Sam | 2311 comments 1. In Memory of Memory
2 When We Cease to Understand the World.
3. The Perfect Nine
4. Summer Brother
5 The Pear Field
6 An Inventory of Losses
7. The Employees (projected)
8. Minor Detail
9. Wretchedness
10. At Night All Blood is Black
11. I Live in the Slums
12 The Dangers of Smoking in Bed
13. The War of the Poor


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