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The Fires of Heaven > Chapter 41-44 Book 5

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Well, we start with a fuzzy description!
First, we get there are 3 camp, made out of TWO factions: soldiers of tear and Cairhien. Why 3 camps for 2 factions? Who knows!
So tear got here? Good, but why don't we get their story? Not cool.
How are cairhien soldiers outside? Who knows!
And in the next paragraph Jordan says they are not soldiers but commonfolk, peasants even? Just what is happening?
And by sheer concidence ALL these arrived the same time - as Rand?

Again the inconsistency. The Aiel World War was like 20 years ago. Why don't this captain handle aiels as a threat?

Question: does this world knows sexual protective devices?

Jordan just said, an army of ca. 100,000 can not be seen.

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On Quora someone asked what's the most important thing when you write Epic Fantasy. And some dumbfuckery replied "the map". Well, we see in WoT why that is not true. 10,000 pages intro drawing up the map is boring. Especialy if you don't even have the final product when you start it, so we can see when you paint, and re-paint the whole thing. Not to mention, I thought that's why you have a map in the appendix, so you can spare that 100,000 pages crap.
What you actualy need, is a story.
What's the story here? I don't know. We COULD say it is gathering humanity to fight the Big Bad Boss - but that plotline is sidelined for... What are we expecting to be achieved here? We are sidetracked, without a cause.

Great. We are presented with THE strategy Rand should follow here - but Rand never gets this informaiton. Because Roby is an idiot.
By the way, yes, the strategy is pretty obvious, at least it's core.
Yes, this thread is reeled up like twop ages later - but that's two pages too many.

Mat splits from the group.

I have no idea who this Weiramon is. I searched for it (ebook, remember), and he is a Lord from Tear. Well, then why did he not exist in Book 4? I stopped taking notes on every name since then, but I do have every name up till the start of volume 5. Why RJ did not use a name that existed already, and thus give the slightest credibility to his writings? Maybe even RJ didn't give a crap at this point.

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Again the stupidity "if ya has magick y u have weapon?"
Well, a) because creating a sword requires magic, and you can esily be cut from it b) the Magic Sword Spell is a spell, and requires mana c) you are not just limited by mana, but also how many things you can do at once with magic, so one less needed is always good.
Oh, and because Paul Attraides also did not use magic to duel that harkonen guy.
I also feel a bit of subverting the character of Corum, though that reference is from book 3 there, King of Swords.

Question: why this scene with Matt? What do we gain with it? Nothing, again, that's what. Doesn't matter if it is an otherwise good (though a bit stretched) scene, if it has no purpose to exist in the story.
The scene even result in personaly micromanaging your team (from the writer's side), and that's BAD leadership (authorship).

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Why is the conclusion Sammael? So the plot can happen.There are 9 Forsaken out there, but "no doubt" is it Sammael! Didn't Hellboy delt with that creature?

This is the first time I actualy read Peul/Rand's fremen/aiel title. And it is the usual lack of creativness: karakan. "a person or thing that acts or has the power to act."
Ya know, I once read a book which did such thing. It was waaay less obvious though. And it was actualy built in the story, revealing at one point it is a post-apocalyptic world, and THAT had significance to the story too! Here it is just some talentless heck fanficcing.

You know, it wouldn't even occur to me normaly, but is it ok to Matt have a spyglass? I don't remember him, or anyone else using such things throughout, and RJ made a big deal of Rand's telescope, so I have my doubts. Yes, RJ achieved that his reader distrust him. And all GM knows if the party starts ditrusting him/her, it's pretty much game over.

Sammal. Is. the. Betrayer. Of. Hope.
Ye, sure, Mr. Jordan! It was always him. :sarcasm:

Well, the battle is over.


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