The Catholic Book Club discussion

1. Use this question to share thoughts and observations that don't fit any other question, or that come to you as you read.

https://www.goodreads.com/review/show... Here you have my review of "The faith of our fathers" by Joseph Pearce but i advice that you do not read until the reading progress was more advanced.

Pearce is such a good writer, but at times I get bogged down in his scrupulous efforts to distinguish fact from hearsay.

I'd never heard the Glastonbury thorn legend or that Joseph of Arimathea was a friend of the Holy Family or had any connection to England.

Could Walsingham currently be an Anglican shrine?

Unhealthy entanglement of Church and state seems to be an ongoing issue, not only secular rulers trying to interfere in appointing clerics but churchmen taking up arms or holding political office. Separation seems much wiser.

The story of the arrival of Saint Joseph Arimathea appears in The Quest of Grail. It is typical of the Arthurian legends. We are discussing about this what did you lean? We are discussing about history and myth. Despite being historian i defend the importance of the myth in history. A lot of thing that we teach are legends.

On the feast of St. Lawrence, I can't help wishing Church leaders had followed his example and sold off material treasures to succor the poor, so there would have been less for the king and his henchmen to confiscate.

Ah is the fat King (Henry VIII)?

I have just written to the writer Carolyn Astfalk asking for the mail of Mr. Pearce in case that he wanted to participate in the discussion. I hope not doing bad. This thing would improve the discussion.

I was curious about the role of a "Chancellor" and whether such a government role is befitting for a Bishop (or any clergyman)
I find it odd to call a rebellion a "pilgrimage."
I'm surprised no one so long ago objected to having a woman (queen or not) as head of Church and state!
I find i interesting that he moves from politics into literature and was not aware of the Catholic sympathies of writers like Shakespeare, Jane Austen.
exploding corpse??
I found lists of names and places boring.
Why wasn't the king welcome at the Cardinal's funeral?
Approving of liturgical changes is not tantamount to being a relativist or losing the traditional faith.

Jill the Wolsey's role was not exceptional in the Middle Age the bishops had charges in the courts. The pilgrim of Grace was peaceful and it was destroyed employing the treason by Norfolk and Sufolk they promised several conditions the people cabe back to their houses and they killed to the people. Henry VIII decided to destroy the northern part of England the part less ruled by him because was the supporter of the house of York the prrvious dinasty defeated in the war of two roses. I do not agree i praise the quantity of information and places given by Pearce. Jill only must see the evolution of anglican church for realized that Pearce is absolutely right. I recommend his appendix of C.S. Lewis and the Catholic Church.

Jill wrote: "I'm surprised no one so long ago objected to having a woman (queen or not) as head of Church and state!"

This would have been a problem in France, where the Salic Law forbade women to be the head of state, but not in England, where they had their first queen in the twelfth century (Matilda). Later they had Mary Tudor, Elizabeth I, Mary II and Ann (the daughters of James II), Victoria and Elizabeth II.

Current parlance about patriarchy and woman slavery are exaggerated. It didn't happen everywhere, and it didn't happen in every situation.

Indeed the women were decesive in the protection of the Catholic Priest in the period harder of Persecution

When i read the book i was interested in the 18th century i cheer up that Pearce gave to his readers this information. I had liked a final index of books that he employed not only food notes.

Sorry feet notes 😅.

footnotes in English

Thanks Jill for checking me, then footnotes 😉

i would like to reread this book but i am very busy hardly i have been able to do something useful this month. I have said to the Professor this is the summer in which i have read less books. I have spent a lot of time in YouTube. I am sorry and i expect solving this problem soon.