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message 1: by Andrez (last edited Feb 19, 2011 04:50AM) (new)

Andrez (andrez-ssi) Many modern languages come from latin (like portuguese, spanish, french, italian, romanian etc) and it's taught in schools in some countries, and it's even the Vatican City's official language. It is also used by scientists to name animal species, and for many other purposes.

so, post all the latin you know here ;)

veni, vidi, vici ; Julius Caesar (I came, I saw, I won)


message 2: by Andrez (new)

Andrez (andrez-ssi) mea culpa, mea maxima culpa; popular (my fault, my biggest fault*)

*or something like that


message 3: by Andrez (new)

Andrez (andrez-ssi) et tu, Brutus ?, Julius Caesar (you too, Brutus?)


message 4: by Andrez (new)

Andrez (andrez-ssi) sal=salt
vaca=cow


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facilis descensus averni, Virgil - Aeneid (the descent to hell is easy)


message 5: by Andrez (new)

Andrez (andrez-ssi) castigat ridendo mores ; Molière (One corrects customs by laughing at them )


Rachel (aka. Kaiserin Sisi) (looney-lovegood) | 57 comments Mod
Litora, multum ille et terris iactatus et alto
Vi superum, saevae memorem Iunonis ob iram
Multa quoque et bello passus, dum conderet urbem
Arma virumque cano, Troiae qui primus ab oris
Italiam fato profugus Laviniaque venit

Some lines from the Aenid, out of order.


message 7: by Andrez (new)

Andrez (andrez-ssi) *sigh* i have to learn latin...


message 8: by Andrez (new)

Andrez (andrez-ssi) wow why?


message 9: by Andrez (new)

Andrez (andrez-ssi) and what'?


message 10: by Andrez (new)

Andrez (andrez-ssi) lol


Rachel (aka. Kaiserin Sisi) (looney-lovegood) | 57 comments Mod
I had to take two years of it, but we only worked on grammar, so I can't really form sentences or anything.


message 12: by Andrez (new)

Andrez (andrez-ssi) lol read the comments above ;PPP


Rachel (aka. Kaiserin Sisi) (looney-lovegood) | 57 comments Mod
Vaca is also the same.

I think that legire means "to read"...maybe.


message 14: by Andrez (new)

Andrez (andrez-ssi) Rachel (aka. Kaiserin Sisi) wrote: "Vaca is also the same.

I think that legire means "to read"...maybe."


Misa (The Chrono Trigger Geek) wrote: "sal is salt in spanish!!! so I do know a word of latin!! >-<"

theyre the same words in portuguese


message 15: by Andrez (new)

Andrez (andrez-ssi) except for the legire word


Rachel (aka. Kaiserin Sisi) (looney-lovegood) | 57 comments Mod
Don't you just love ROmance Languages?

Is "mal" "bad" in Latin also?


message 17: by Andrez (new)

Andrez (andrez-ssi) I have no idea, i have to ask my pt teacher


message 18: by Andrez (new)

Andrez (andrez-ssi) lol i just found this expression on some website
male peius pessime : badly, ill, wrongly.


Rachel (aka. Kaiserin Sisi) (looney-lovegood) | 57 comments Mod
I just looked it up, and "bad" is "malus", so it's close. :D


message 20: by Andrez (new)

Andrez (andrez-ssi) ok ;DDD


Rachel (aka. Kaiserin Sisi) (looney-lovegood) | 57 comments Mod
Alien smiley!!! Run!!!!

(Sorry, I'm hyper today)


message 22: by Andrez (new)

Andrez (andrez-ssi) lol


message 23: by Andrez (new)

Andrez (andrez-ssi) lol


message 24: by Emma (new)

Emma (zeeberg) Pulvis et umbra sumus
- We are but dust and shadows.

And I believe Ceasar said:
Et tu Brute
- You too, Brutus.

He meant that Brutus would go trough the same :)

Optimus magister, bonus liber
- The best teacher is a good book.

O di immortals
- Good heavens

Pax
- Peace


message 25: by [deleted user] (new)

Abnormis sapiens-- Wise without instruction (Horace)


message 26: by Emma (new)

Emma (zeeberg) Poeta nascitur, non fit
- The poet is born, not made


message 27: by [deleted user] (new)

Absit invidia-- No offense intended


message 28: by Emma (new)

Emma (zeeberg) Purgamentum init, exit purgamentum
- Garbage in, garbage out


message 29: by Andrez (new)

Andrez (andrez-ssi) carpe diem = live the day; seize the day


message 30: by Emma (new)

Emma (zeeberg) Ab imo pectore
- From the bottom of the chest (From the heart)
^ Julius Cesar


message 31: by [deleted user] (new)

Acclinis falsis animus meliora recusat-- The mind intent upon false appearances refuses to admit better things (Horace)


message 32: by Andrez (new)

Andrez (andrez-ssi) mea culpa, mea maxima culpa = my fault, my biggest fault


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Ad astra-- To the stars


message 34: by Emma (new)

Emma (zeeberg) Uuuuh, The mortal instruments - Jace - CoB!!!!


Amare et sapere vix deo conceditur
- Even a god finds it hard to love and be wise at the same time


message 35: by [deleted user] (new)

Ad infinitum-- To infinity without end


message 36: by Emma (new)

Emma (zeeberg) Uhm... Ave cesar?


message 37: by Andrez (new)

Andrez (andrez-ssi) lol

etcetera = and other (things)
et al = and other (people)


message 38: by Kymela (last edited Feb 18, 2011 07:16PM) (new)

Kymela (kymelatejasi) | 26 comments Latin is the official language of the Vatican and now has words for car, aeroplane, ipod, radio, etc. How is it still considered dead? And I still don't get where the 'classical' pronunciation of v came from. The Monks in the Catholic monasteries are the ones who kept Latin alive.

cow is vacca
and it's
mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa-My fault, my fault, my most grievous fault.

I have three course books and I use them all. One is one Church Latin, one is Oxford and the last is Wheelock's.


message 39: by Diana (new)

Diana LATIN!!!!!! yay!!!! I've been studying it since fourth grade, at least now I can use it......

E Pluribus Unum - One out of many (Motto of the USA)
Novus Ordo Seclorum - New order of the ages (on the back of the American dollar bill)
Annuit coeptis - He has favored our undertakings (also on the back of the American dollar bill.


message 40: by Andrez (new)

Andrez (andrez-ssi) 樹利香 wrote: "Latin is the official language of the Vatican and now has words for car, aeroplane, ipod, radio, etc. How is it still considered dead? And I still don't get where the 'classical' pronunciation of v..."

I didn't know that, I'll change it immedeatly immediatly.

What do you mean with "don't get where the 'classical' pronunciation of v came from"?


message 41: by Kymela (new)

Kymela (kymelatejasi) | 26 comments Stray wrote: What do you mean with "don't get where the 'classical' pronunciation of v came from"?

In Church Latin, v is pronounced as in the Romance languages or English today. In Classical, everything says it is pronounced as an English w. I don't understand where that came from.

I'm not trying to bash it or anything, I'm just confused about it, by the obvious differences in today's Romance languages.


message 42: by Andrez (new)

Andrez (andrez-ssi) that is interesting, I had heard of it somewhere but I thought it was just the way English people spoke Latin (sorry, sorry for my mistake) exactly because in Latin languages v's are pronounced as v's.

I love the differences in Romance Languages, especially that if you know one, it's a lot easier to learn the others but there are still some traps (eg embarassada-portuguese- and embarazada-spanish). what romance languages are you learning?


message 43: by Anony-miss (new)

Anony-miss a-non-y-miss | 8 comments Tenebris In Lux

Darkness In Light :D


message 44: by Kymela (new)

Kymela (kymelatejasi) | 26 comments lingua italia et lingua gallia disco.

So far, I've never mixed up words like that...

My grammar books are the ones that mention v as w. And it drives me nuts that no one can tell me where that idea came from, who 're-discovered' this pronunciation? I can't get an answer. :( I was just hoping I would get one here.

Oh! That reminds me of a service in the Catholic Church during Holy Week. Wednesday we hold, not a Mass like on Thursday, Friday and Saturday, but...I'm not sure what it would be classified as. It is called the Tenebrae-Darkness. They light a bunch of candles (can't remember how many) and they read Bible verses, then the choir sings in Latin. At certain points, each candle is put out one by one until only one is left. Then, as the congregation (it's supposed to be us, but some churches do it really weird) makes loud noises, like hitting the backs of the pews in front of us (we're standing) to simulate the noise of the earthquake at the time of Christ's death. Then that last candle is put out.
I have to find a better explanation if y'all want one, but I think it's supposed to be reminiscent of the exact moments of Jesus' death, the earthquake, the darkness, etc. It's kinda cool and if you get to attend one in a large cathedral like Saint John Cantius in Chicago, a little bit eerie, because they actually do it closer to sundown.


Chiara  ♪*CheesecakeLover*♪ | 57 comments I take Latin at school- here are a couple of random sentences.


ego sum puella nomine Chiara.

I am a girl called Chiara.

Caecilius est argentarius.

Caecilius is a banker.

ego dormiebat, et pater intrat.

I was sleeping, and father entered.


message 46: by Andrez (new)

Andrez (andrez-ssi) wow I can totally see the resemblances to all the latin languages I know (I know it's obvious but i *had* to say that)


message 47: by Kymela (new)

Kymela (kymelatejasi) | 26 comments One thing my Oxford book told me, was that there is no punctuation in Latin. I noticed that with the Bible on the (let's see if I can get a link to work) Latin Library.


message 48: by Graziella (new)

Graziella (grazia) | 46 comments I would like to learn! I acutally bought a latin dictionary when i was in the states recently.

I hope to maybe do a little bit here and there...


message 49: by Andrez (last edited Mar 02, 2011 08:40AM) (new)

Andrez (andrez-ssi) I'd like to do so too eventually because today i started learning Portuguese language evolution. how words evolved from latin and Greek and other languages. I think that it is very interesting :)

and yeah, my teacher started speaking a bit of latin ;P


message 50: by Graziella (new)

Graziella (grazia) | 46 comments I'm starting with the periodic table! lol


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