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spotted any mistakes?
hey katty i am not sure ernie said that in the 7th book, i think he said that in the 5th book when draco was part of the inquistorial sqaud( i think that's how it's spelt) formed by umbridge. i'm not sure draco went to school in the 7th book. can u check still??
No. Ernie said that Prefects cannot take points off other Prefects, But Malfoy said that members of the inquistorial sqaud can take points from Prefects.
it wasn't in the 7th book was it?? i think it was in the 5th......
yeah...it was in the 5th book...when Umbridge became the headmistress.
well, there was the one where in the first book nearly headless nick comments that he hasn't eaten in a hundred years but in the second book he celebreates his five hundreth death day... but he might have just been talking i don't think that it really counts.
in book 5 when Harry is at Grimauld place and he is hiding in one of the bedrooms - hermione comes to talk to him and it says that she shuts the door after herself when she leaves, then it says harry goes and shuts the door!
well maybe harry opened the door.... THEN shut the door? i mean... possible, right???
very possible. personally, i wouldve opened the door, yelled something after hermione, and slammed the door with all my might!
I'm answering gunjari's question where she's talking about nearly headless nick.. i think he meant to say he had eaten on his 400th b'day and then he was eating on his 500th b'day... in this way he didn't eat for 100 years.... right!
also, In the 3rd book I think Marcus Flint appears but he's supposed to have graduated like the year before. or something like that...
i think flint and wood were the same yr... but not sure...
on the cover of the fifth book harry is holding his wand in his left hand instead of his right... but he might have just been holding it in his left hand for no reason...
Okay, this one really gets me. At the end of Goblet of Fire, Harry comments on the horse-less carriages that will take them back to the Hogwarts Express. It is not until the beginning of Order of Phoenix that he sees the thestrals. WHY? Cedric was already dead when Harry made that comment at the end of Goblet - shouldn't he have been able to see the thestrals then?
Terri that one has always bothered me as well. Also in the fourth book we learn that Moody's magical eye can see through Harry's invisibility cloak. But in the seventh book, we learn that Harry's cloak is basically impenetrable. Wouldn't that make Moody's eye more powerful than Harry's cloak, more powerful than a Deathly Hallow?
I noticed a few. In Chamber of Secrets, not so much a mistake, but Ron had inherited an old wand from one of his brothers with the hair poking out the top. But wands last a wizard their whole lives. Voldemort had his for over 50 years and it was just fine; who knows how long the Elder wand has been around.
There was another one in Chamber of Secrets that I can't remember now.
In Prisoner of Azkaban when Harry goes to buy his books the guy at the book store automatically heads over the Monster Books of Monsters even though Care of Magical Creatures is an elective class and only for 3rd years and up but he never asks him how old or what classes.
But why would his brother have to get a new wand? It's a big deal to get your wand, something that is a part of you for the rest of your life. And why was the wand wearing out after a couple of years? In the context of Ron inheriting yet another something from a sibling when we don't understand everything about the wands in CS it made perfect sense. But after all the explanation of wands in DH (which is the only plot hole that I think she could have fine tuned a little) it's inconsistent. Like I said, not a mistake, but not consistent. I've read CS countless times and after all these reads it finally struck me as strange that Ron inherited a wand. Plus with all the security surrounding Hogwarts, I'm surprised they could have flown into the grounds in the car without incident. With Hermione always going on about security, it seems odd that the car could just fly into Hogwarts.
there is a list of mistakes on mugglenet ... I'll just copy and paste the ones that interest me. Some of these I did catch, some I thought were interestingIn Book 1, on page 27 (American paperback), it mentions that the snake in the zoo winked at Harry. Harry can't be blamed for being so surprised, as snakes don't have movable eyelids.
When Hagrid comes and gets Harry out of the little hut on the rock, they use the boat that the Dursleys used to get to the rock. So how do the Dursleys get off the rock?
On page 153 of the hard-cover US version of Sorcerer's Stone, Fred says: "We haven't won [the Quidditch Cup:] since Charlie left..." However, according to JKR, Charlie is three years older than Percy (who is in his 5th year at the time), so Charlie should still have been in Hogwarts the year before. This makes Fred's statement "We haven't won since last year!"
On page 236 of the US hardback version of Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone, it reads: "Wednesday night found Hermione and Harry sitting alone in the common room... The clock on the wall had just chimed midnight when the portrait hole burst open. Ron appeared..." But on page 133, it says: "They had to study the night skies through their telescopes every Wednesday at midnight..." So are they cutting class to discuss Norbert?
On page 205 of the UK SS, Ron says, "Well Harry, you take the place of that bishop, and Hermione, you go next to him instead of that castle." But the castle is next to the knight, not the bishop.
On page 102 of the American COS: "Several (freshly caught Cornish pixies) shot through the window, showering the back row with broken glass." The glass would have splintered outward, not back into the classroom.
At the end of the second book Dumbledore tells Harry that Lord Voldemort is the last remaining ancestor of Salazar Slytherin. But it should say that Lord Voldemort is the last remaining descendant of Salazar Slytherin.
In the UK version of POA, page 45 primarily states that Harry is being waited on by the manager of Flourish and Blotts. The manager takes him to the Divination section and takes down Unfogging the Future. However, after Harry is fixated on the Death Omens book, the manager is suddenly referred to as the "assistant."
In the American version of Prisoner of Azkaban, page 72, first paragraph, it states that "Harry and Ron led the way to the end of the train, past packed compartments, to a carriage that looked quite empty. They loaded the trunks onto it, stowed Hedwig and Crookshanks in the luggage rack, then went back outside..."
On page 74, it states that "Harry, Ron, and Hermione set off down the corridor, looking for an empty compartment, but all were full except for the one at the very end of the train. This one had only one occupant, a man sitting fast asleep next to the window."
They had just put their belongings into an empty compartment, so they didn't need to look for another.
On page 76, it states, "A faint, tinny sort of whistle was coming from somewhere. They looked all around the compartment. 'It's coming from your trunk, Harry,' said Ron, standing up and reaching into the luggage rack."
Their trunks couldn't have been in that compartment as they had stowed them in another one.In the American version of Prisoner of Azkaban, page 72, first paragraph, it states that "Harry and Ron led the way to the end of the train, past packed compartments, to a carriage that looked quite empty. They loaded the trunks onto it, stowed Hedwig and Crookshanks in the luggage rack, then went back outside..."
On page 74, it states that "Harry, Ron, and Hermione set off down the corridor, looking for an empty compartment, but all were full except for the one at the very end of the train. This one had only one occupant, a man sitting fast asleep next to the window."
They had just put their belongings into an empty compartment, so they didn't need to look for another.
On page 76, it states, "A faint, tinny sort of whistle was coming from somewhere. They looked all around the compartment. 'It's coming from your trunk, Harry,' said Ron, standing up and reaching into the luggage rack."
Their trunks couldn't have been in that compartment as they had stowed them in another one.
On page 232 of GOF it reads, "Moody had insisted on putting Harry through his paces four times in a row, until Harry could throw off the curse entirely," referring to the Imperius Curse. However, on page 661 it says, "And Harry felt, for the third time in his life, the sensation that his mind had been wiped of all thought..." Wouldn't that be the fifth time instead of the third?
On page 617 of the US edition of GOF, Mrs. Weasley "reminisced at length about" Ogg, the gamekeeper before Hagrid. Hagrid was given the position right after he was expelled in his third year. Since this was over fifty years ago, Mrs. Weasley wouldn't remember another gamekeeper.
In Order of the Phoenix, UK Edition, page 340, it says "but Harry pulled out his Charms books and set to work on finishing his essay..." However, the excerpts from the Charms book have nothing to do with Charms - they sound like potion ingredients: "Therefore much used in Confusing and Befuddlement Droughts..." Then, after his conversation with Dobby on page 342, "He (Harry) bent and picked up his Potions book. He'd have to try and finish the essay tomorrow." It appears that Harry's Charms essay magically transformed into a Potions essay.
In the American Edition, page 188, Slughorn says, "One tiny bottle of Felix Felicis enough for twelve hours' luck. From dusk til' dawn, you will be lucky in everything you attempt." But then on page 476, Harry says, "I don't reckon I'll need all of it, not twenty-four hours' worth..."
On page 176 of HBP, UK edition, it states "Malfoy looked rather as he had done the time Hermione had punched him in the face." However, on page 216 of the UK POA, Hermione "...had slapped Malfoy around the face with all the strength she could muster."
In chapter nine, Hermione, Ron, and Harry escape the Burrow to Tottenham Court Road where they are followed to a small, shabby cafe by two Death Eaters. The Death Eaters are hit by spells by Harry and Hermione and they have to decide what to do with them. Harry suggests they just wipe their memories, and Hermione says she's never done this. BUT earlier in chapter six Hermione explains that she has modified her parents' memories and sent them to Australia to keep them safe.
oops the mistake in POA about the trio putting their stuff in the wrong compartent was copied twice ...
Terri wrote: "Okay, this one really gets me. At the end of Goblet of Fire, Harry comments on the horse-less carriages that will take them back to the Hogwarts Express. It is not until the beginning of Order of..."And he saw his parents die!!!! I have always wondered about that.....
Annalisa wrote: "But why would his brother have to get a new wand? It's a big deal to get your wand, something that is a part of you for the rest of your life. And why was the wand wearing out after a couple of yea..."He got the wand when his brother became a prefect. They get gifts for becoming prefects.
Harry's letter from Hogwarts says he may bring a cat, an owl, or a toad, but Ron brings his rat, Scabbers.Harry buys the book One Thousand Magical Herbs and Fungi, but later in the book it says Harry looked up 'dittany' in One Hundred Magical Herbs and Fungi. it says that Harry looked up at the Sorting Stool, there were only three people left to be sorted, Professor McGonagall calls the names of four more people instead.
Emma,Yes they get gifts for becoming prefects, but again why a new wand? It's a big deal for the wand to pick the wizard. It's a match for life, unless something happens to said wand. And why would the wand be wornout? Wands are sturdier than that. I'm not saying it's a mistake, it's just an inconsistency.
Annalisa, it may be possible that the new wand was a replacement for another hand-me-down. Since the Weasleys really didn't have much money, there could have been an older relative that passed his/her wand down the family tree.
Melissa, I wondered that myself. It just seemed weird.
Yeah, it is weird, but I guess we won't really know unless JKR answered that question in an interview somewhere along the way.
Nikki wrote: "Terri that one has always bothered me as well. Also in the fourth book we learn that Moody's magical eye can see through Harry's invisibility cloak. But in the seventh book, we learn that Harr..."
Huh, those were the two that got me, too.
Nikki wrote: "Terri that one has always bothered me as well.
Also in the fourth book we learn that Moody's magical eye can see through Harry's invisibility cloak. But in the seventh book, we learn that Harr..."
ME TOO! THAT ONE GOT ME SOOO MAD!
Also in the fourth book we learn that Moody's magical eye can see through Harry's invisibility cloak. But in the seventh book, we learn that Harr..."
ME TOO! THAT ONE GOT ME SOOO MAD!
And did you guys catch the part in COS where Harry is fighting the basilisk and he tries to keep his eyes shut so he wouldn't die, but did he not realize that he would just of been petrified because he was wearing classes?
but what about Colin? He just saw it through the camera lens. And Justin saw it through Nearly-Headless Nick?
This isn't really a mistake, more a thought provoker... In the begining of book5, Harry finds Mrs. Weasley being scared of the boggart. She is crying over everybody in her families dead bodies. She sees everybody, but Ginny. Do you think that JKR did this on Purpose?
And... In Deathly Hallows it says that she craved a daughter... So wouldn't she be seeing Ginny's body?
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Maybe Harry would have reacted differently to Ginny dieing?
Maybe she didn't see Ginny because she was the only one who really wasn't involved with the Order. All the others had a much greater chance of dying.
The part with the thestrals isn't a mistake (JKR talks about it in one of her interviews). Death needs to "sink in" before you can see them, and Harry may not have actually witnessed his parents' deaths (he was a baby, after all).The whole glasses thing makes sense, too. A camera lens isn't just a piece of glass, and Justin's case probably has something to do with Nick's ghost-state. There might be some rule about seeing through the "imprint of a departed soul."
The Moody / invisibility cloak inconsistency is weird, though. No explanation for that one...
I don't see the eye and cloak as a mistake. The eye that can see through everything and the cloak that can block out everything-that one would be stronger than the other is inevitable, but which one? One would automatically assume that the magic from death would be stronger, but we never find out where the eye comes from. It's just stronger magic and I like that the cloak isn't all powerful; like the other deathly hallows it's not perfect. I think there are more inconsistencies with the elder wand than the cloak. Besides some of my favorite scenes occur between the eye and cloak so I'm glad that the eye is stronger. I'm not sure that any of us could guess JKR's intention for leaving out Ginny, but I like Lauren's idea. Ginny would have been last because she was in the least peril. Molly didn't get a chance for her boggart to turn into Ginny yet. I don't think it was an intentional statement, but we'll never know until JKR specifies herself.
Lilly, Thanks for clearing that up about the thestrals. That has always bothered me why Harry did not see them at the end of four.
The Moody/cloak inconsistency? I have not heard of this.
Basically, some people think that Moody's eye should not be able to see through Harry's cloak because it makes Harry invisible.
Terri wrote: "Okay, this one really gets me. At the end of Goblet of Fire, Harry comments on the horse-less carriages that will take them back to the Hogwarts Express. It is not until the beginning of Order of..."I went on JKRs site and it says that she didn't won't to start another mystery
Emma wrote:"And he saw his parents die!!!! I have always wondered about that..... "On JKRs site she said he didn't really understand that his parents died it was halloween after all he thought they would pop at any moment
oooo. thx annalisa. :)Did Dumbledore at one point also see through the cloak?
IN the second movie, at Hagrid's hut, but I think there was another time.
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i was just wondering if anyone here has spotted any mistakes in the series?
for example,
in the Chamber of Secrets, when percy the prefect sees Ron coming out of moaning myrtls bathroom he sais he will "dock some points from gryffindor" but in the 7th book ernie sais to malfoy that only teachers can take points off not prefects.
any more?