UFO and Alien Believers Group discussion

thought I'd let you know about author Richad Dolan, who wrote the book "UFO's and the National Security State" is going to be in the Fitchburg area on Saturday, May 29th. He'll be giving a talk about his research and signing his latest book from 7-9 PM. Oh, and this is going to be at The Rabbit Hole Bookstore, 805 Main Street, Fitchburg.

M.O.M.

I read both his books this year. I'm new here today and hope to get more interest in this than I see so far with this book club. Is no one interested anymore?

I've been looking for new UFO books to read. Ages ago a buddy of mine were always trading info, websites, etc...I was hoping for a bit more give and take too.

I honestly don't know why this group is so quiet. With all the believers in the world, you'd think this group would be lively. I can recommend two books offhand, one fiction and one non-fiction.

The Gods and the Builders by Brandon Hale, fiction, a totally twist ending. One of my favorite fiction UFO books because it COULD happen. It's not all monsters eating humans and all that.

Then Alien Nightmares by Sharon Delarose (me) telling my own personal story of UFO encounters spanning decades.

I'm in the middle of Alien Agenda by Jim Marrs (1997 ). It's quite good so far. He has several instances in there that I've not heard of and I've read a lot of the books out there! I'm also reading Alien Experiences, it's a kindle so don't have the authors off hand but it's okay, I'd give it a C+ if I were a teacher!!

I've just ordered Forbidden Archaeology. It's expensive but has a great deal of information, not sure if it has UFO info, but lots about humans being a great deal older than now accepted.

I'll look into your book, Sharon. Thanks for letting us know about it.

Sharon, I went ahead and bought your book. Have they quit bothering you? I've had them in my life since I was a toddler but they have left me with just fleeting memmories, mainly just being afraid of the dark and having to have the bathroom and closet doors closed. Also, I always check the sky.

Well, enough. This is a book club!

One of my biggies was the curtains. I absolutely could NOT have the windows exposed at night, and the curtains had to be really heavy, a total blockout. It's been pretty quiet since my forties. They've either lost interest from age, or they visit in waves. They were all over the danged place from toddler-hood into my twenties, and very active in my thirties when waves of them were visiting Virginia and Florida. You'll read about that. I matched up my experiences with known waves, which surprised the heck out of me. I'd had no idea they were so active until I researched it while writing of my own encounters.

I'll make a note of the books you suggested. I haven't read those.

They're good at manipulating memories, that's for sure! You'll have to let me know if any of my experiences feel familiar to you. The one thing I wish I had done, was write down events when I was a kid as best I could remember them. Who knew it would be so important later? I'll be you've got more memories than you realize.

Yes, I agree. I probably do have more memories than I realize. I do wish I had written down all the strange things that happened to me, but I was a kid in the '40s and '50s and many of us were unaware of aliens, UFOs and abductions. I will let you know what I think may be the same. I'll put your book at the head of the long, long reading list!

Sharon wrote: "I honestly don't know why this group is so quiet. With all the believers in the world, you'd think this group would be lively. I can recommend two books offhand, one fiction and one non-fiction.

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Thanks!!!

Dodie, then you may be like me. As a kid, I was dreaming about the alien grays, which we didn't see on TV or anywhere like today. Everybody knows what they look like today, but to have dreamed about them back when nobody knew, is significant. My experiences started in the 60s when I was a kid.

Sharon: Could I ask you to be on my friend list? I'd like to take this off the club list so we can talk more privately.

I do agree that I have a lot of things that are just weird in my life and would like to talk about them. I started your book last evening and I'll have it read shortly. Being retired, I can do just about what I want in as day and if I want to read all day, I can!

Dodie, You're welcome to friend me :-)

Hello, I'm Robert and I have just temporarily joined this group to snoop around, and see If I want to stay. The possibility of the existence of UFO's and aliens is one of my interests, so that is why I came to this group. However, there seems to be some issues like...is there anyone in charge, or is this a ship without a Captain?
One obvious reason this group is floundering is the lack of participation by it's members. 18 out of 54 have made a comment or posting since they joined. I don't understand why people join groups and never comment or post. So, anyone want to step up to the plate and add their two cents, or has this craft crashed and burned like Roswell?

There are other topics within this list that have been commented on within the last couple of days. So look around, I'm sure you'll find it.

Some of us comment more frequently than others, but isn't that the way with most groups?

Hi! I'm Grace!

Hi, Grace. Thanks for joining us. If you'll go to discussions in the box up on top of the page, it will tell you about the two of the discussions that are currently going on. There are several actually, so you might have to look around a bit! We're a good group and a few of us are very interested and have some interesting discussions

Robert, I was rather miffed at the last paragraph that you wrote. A few of us are discussing interesting topics and if you just look around a bit more that on this particular page, you'll see that. Welcome to the group whether you want to stay or not is up to you. But you are welcome.

Some of us spend more time lurking than posting. I'm usually working when I'm online, so I don't often publicly post anywhere.

That said, welcome to the drifting starship!

Here ya go, Robert.


First UFO Experiment in Atglen, Pennsylvania

Saturday, September 14, 2013, 9-1:00 a.m.

Dinah Roseberry and I made plans.

Starting on Sept. 5, 2013, Dinah, her friend Vickie and I, began meditating—sending a message into the universe that invited alien entities or devices to meet with us on Sept. 14, 2013, between 9-1:00 a.m., in Atglen, PA (Pennsylvania), on a private commercial property on Route 372, Lower Valley Road. The meditations were done on our own, not as a group. Mine only lasted about 3 minutes each day. I asked in my meditation that the aliens be friendly towards humanity, and that 1 of them meet with us in person. I do not know exactly what the other 2 people said in their meditations. I’m not sure it matters.

The weather was perfect; zero clouds in the sky before, during and after this event (that is: for the 2 hours it lasted after the 9:08 p.m. sighting). There was no wind. Temperature was in the 50s (F), comfortable. Visibility was unlimited.

The three of us arrived at the rural setting separately at about 8:55 p.m. We set up chairs and some paraphernalia and began chit-chatting.

At 9:08 p.m., I noticed an unusual light in the sky facing southeast towards the tree line. It was to my left (at about 10 o’clock position, 45 degrees above horizon). A brightly lit circle with a dull orange color flew above, and followed, the tree line. Approximate distance including altitude was 2 miles. It was headed in our direction. I announced to the ladies that something was up.

Immediately, Vickie, an amateur astronomer said, “That shouldn’t be there!”

As we continued watching, 4 other orange lights, identical to the first, arrived from behind a tree that blocked some of our view of the sky on the left. They flew the exact flight line of the first light, and headed towards us.

I was curious to see if there were any more lights in the section of sky that was blocked by the tree. I walked down the hill from the edge of the parking lot towards the electric cow fence so I could see the sky behind the interfering tree. I stopped about 10 yards from the parking lot.

The sighting was unbelievable. A giant sphere made up of many of the same orange circles hung in the sky about a half-mile in diameter. The circles moved away from each other in every direction, expanding the sphere. I called to the two ladies to hurry to my position which they did. The lights then broke into small groups and moved along the same line as the first light, towards us; some groups had 2 lights, one group had 6 lights; they varied in number and shape of the group.

These orange globes were not planes, helicopters, meteors, kites, flares, “swamp gas,” rockets, stars, planets, satellites, Frisbees or anything else other than what they were—an alien presence that came in direct response to our deeply sincere request. As if by design, we were able to compare the lights to a small single-engine prop plane which was flying in the opposite direction of the orange circles. It had all the proper running lights, making it easy to identify (and we could hear it—the UFOs made no sound) and flew a bit slower than the UFOs. The plane was 1/4-1/2 mile further away from us (south). This suggested that the orange circles were somewhat bigger than a single-engine prop plane.

In the end, I counted 19 identical orange objects.

We observed them for 3-5 minutes. Although everyone had a camera, nobody took pictures because we were too excited to move our attention away from the amazing phenomenon for even a second.

Vickie noted that the last 2 lights in the parade seemed to move in tandem. I agreed. So maybe we saw 18 objects with the last one being larger with 2 lights being part of the larger craft that we could not see. Not sure.

Finally, when each individual or group of lights traveled about a half-mile towards us, each single or group made a 90 degree left turn (their left) and “winked out,” meaning they quickly (by not instantly) disappeared into the clear sky. The last “double light” (to me) turned south so that one of the two lights first disappeared behind the other and then both vanished. This was all done at the exact same spot in the sky. Was it a vortex? A wormhole? A stargate? Or a switching to infrared? We’ll never know.

For the next hour (approximate) the three of us did little more than rave, laugh and high-five each other over the wondrous sighting of so many UFOs. The fact—the hard, undeniable fact that they had showed themselves in a massive way at our request made the event superb.

But the night was not over and we elected to hang around till at least 11:00 p.m. in case other activity manifested. It was good that we did. But what occurred was less UFO-scientific than it was pulled from a crypt in an Edgar Allen Poe novel.

Around 10:20 p.m. our joyous self-congratulations was shattered by the instantaneous wails of about 30 dogs. The din was coming from directly across the field in front of us. These loud barks and howls lasted for about 30 seconds and then stopped straightaway. Dinah, Vickie and I were dumbfounded. Vickie, an Atglen resident, was especially bemused because she knew there were no dog pounds on the property in or behind the woods were the sounds originated. (To be triple sure of her opinion, within the next several days, Vickie drove on the nearest road behind the woods to recheck for buildings, kennels or anything that might contain a large number of dogs. There was nothing.) A possibility was that a large pack of wild dogs had wandered into the woods. But that made no sense. When dogs sleuth, they are not quiet. Many dogs moving through the woods only 1/3 mile away on a quiet night would have been raucous. But, alertness, then whining or growling would have preceded barking as the pack’s awareness of possible danger escalated. Their sound would have crescendoed. Unless, of course, something or someone snuck up on them. But with noses 10, 000 times more sensitive to smells than humans (a minimum figure) that can identify odors a mile away; with night vision 6xs better than ours; and with hearing 4xs better, little, if anything can “sneak-up” on a dog. And after 30 seconds of barking at something, the dogs would have stopped their reactions gradually, not instantly.

All three of us witnessed this strange event. All three of us knew it was not natural. So, why did that happen?

About 2 weeks after the event, Dinah hypnotically regressed me to see if I unconsciously remembered “more” to that night than met our eyes. I was confident nothing else happened. No lost time, no abduction. Dinah was not sure. A strange feeling haunted her about that evening and she wanted my perspective on it. She would not share her feelings until after my regression was over, because she needed a comparison.

During the brief hypno-session I heard the dogs begin to bark, but stop after a couple seconds. In the field directly south of the parking lot, there suddenly appeared a large ship, big enough to fill the entire space, about 650 feet long. Only a few seconds did I see it in my mind’s eye, when it instantly vanished. Then, an elongated alien gray face floated in front of me, from upper right to bottom left followed by a second face that moved from top left to bottom right. That was the end to my short, strange regression.

Of course, as my hypnotist, Dinah was privy to this information as it happened during my session. Afterward she admitted that during her own self-examination, while there was no ship or aliens, she did feel that, somehow, time had been lost, despite none of the three of us feeling that time was physically manipulated during the night. This oddity will probably remain an unknown.

I had organized this experiment base on an interview I did for my book Mid-Atlantic UFOs. A woman from a UFO group in Rochester, New York and eight other members had done similar contacts 12 times over the previous 4 years, with an 11 out of 12 success rate. One of their contacts ended in abduction of all nine contactees. Whitley Strieber talks about doing something similar in his book Breakthrough.

Planning for another contact in November with more people. We’ll see if the experiment can be duplicated.

(NB: See the other five full reports I've pasted on my goodreads site. If you can't find them, contact me and I'll post them here.)

Gerry Medvec
“UFOs Above PA” (Pennsylvania)—my book/mio libro
“Mid-Atlantic UFOs”—my book/mio libro
“New Jersey UFOs”—my book/mio libro
“Ghosts of Delaware”—my book/mio libro

Also--I don't think a leader is necessary on this page.

But more importantly, Robert, have you ever seen a UFO?

Gérard - my friend in Atglen just posted some interesting video on facebook. Did you return to the Atglen location again?

Hello,
I´m Jonas and interested in UFO´s.