The Expanded Universe discussion

Haven't started reading it yet, when does it take place?

It goes Legacy of the Force then Crosscurrent then Millennium Falcon then Fate of the Jedi. So its the latest time slot in other words so far.

But I don't even own any of FOTJ books yet. I have along time before I'll be there, on Star by Star in the NJO, then the whole Legacy series which I just acquired, then Crosscurrent and Mil. Falc.

For the sake of reading in chronological order anyway.

Donca sein.

Vury hepfa.

Giggerish ish confusting.

I apologize for that, I'm kinda tired right about now.

I've been reading FotJ, it's very good. If you're into the comics, the Legacy series covers the eventual outcome of FotJ around 200 ABY.

So is FotJ a comic series, or does the Legacy series just wrap it up?

FotJ is a series of 9 novels that deals with the early events that lead to the political lines, groups in play, etc. as of the beginning of the Legacy comic series. I'm trying to be very vague here so as not to spoil anything.

Basically the Legacy of the Force novel series begins the Legacy Era, some one-shots and FotJ continue with people you know from the movies and New Republic Era stuff. Then the Legacy comic series picks up about 100 years after FotJ and is currently the latest storyline in the Legacy Era.

By the way, before you read the second FotJ book, you should track down and read at least the first two Lost Tribe of the Sith free ebooks that set up some stuff. LTotS takes place in the Sith Era but sets up for some events in the Legacy Era.

Thanks for the suggestion Kyle. (to read the LTotS)

Yeah, I'll have to start up that schtuff.

I finished "Allies" a couple weeks ago so I guess im up to date. Im not sure how much to say or not as to spoil things for others. So I will try to be vague and specific both :)

I like:

Luke & Ben's journey. Revisiting old places and adding detail and depth to them is interesting. Finding other Sith seemed overdue. The idea of their can only be two seemed illogical from the beginning.

Dislike:

The continual friction between the Jedi & the political leaders needs to end. By friction, im really saying a hair short of outright hatred and war of each other.

I better stop here until I get a greater sense of whats appropriate to say, and not. This is my first post, so bear with me.

Huh, maybe this is just me, but I think an all-out war between the "good guys" and the Jedi would provide for some seriously interesting scenarios.

That basically happened during the clone wars.

Oh yeahh.... Except by the time order 66 was executed, they weren't really good guys.

By the way, they're kind of hard to find, but if you search around there are 3 or so pieces short fiction in the format of Ben & Luke's journals or letters home during their journeys. They were released in pdf format one each on Amazon, B&N, and more when the first book came out.

Sorry I can't be more specific, but I don't have them anymore myself. If someone finds them, please post links. :)

Kaythanksbye.
(Don't ask)

Everything is on hold for me until I finish the Legacy GNs. Yeah, I'm into that kinda thing.

Just finished Abyss and now starting Backlash..... its nice to know that even at the age of about 60 that Luke is as much of a tommy tough guy as ever.

He sure is!

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I want to know what you all think about what Ben and Luke saw in the Lake of Apparitions. Especially when they spoke with Jacen. That was such a loaded few pages that I am still trying to unload what all transpired and the possible implications.

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Since Luke saw Mara there also, it seems to be some sort of meeting ground between the dead and the living. I am not sure its entirely real. Mara & Jacen seemed real enough. But I got the sense they may have been misleading him also. In that case, the Apparitions may have been made manifest by some other force or intelligence. Good question, but hard to say what the answer is.

Finished Vortex and can't wait for Conviction. I really love this series compared to Legacy of the Force but still it's not as awesome as the New Jedi Order:)

Seems like the Sith in these books are a watered down version and Abeloth is the real bad*&^*! She is suppose to be a Celestrial?? My friend was trying to explain them to me but I'm still confussed.
Derrick wrote: "So I'm caught up to Vortex now.

What the heck is up with Abeloth?!? A super de duper unkillable darkside force user? All I could think was deus-ex-machina. We have a whole PLANET of Sith, who need..."

The back story of the Celestials is a bit more like a set of related mysteries than a coherent story. Basically what we know is that they're presumed to have created the Maw and the Corellia System, including Centerpoint Station, and they operated long before the creation of the Republic, apparently at the same time as the Killiks. This series introduced their hand at work in the underground structures and wildlife of Kessel, their possible status as the objects of the Aing-Tii's worship in the Kathol Rift, and now the new station inside the Maw and Abeloth, who is probably one of them. And the thing connecting those plots has been the idea that they were somehow all tied to Centerpoint station in some way that is causing things to go wrong after it was destroyed - Kessel attempting to slowly self-destruct, and the new station in the Maw starting up all its alarms, and maybe more. Seems like there could even be some connection to the whole paranoid Jedi thing, since the Mind Walkers seem to be suffering from something very similar a paranoid belief that the world they live in isn't real, and an eventual desire to return to the Maw. They are briefly mentioned in the The Dark Nest Trilogy in relation to the Killiks, and again in Millennium Falcon. They seem to be very powerful and it will be interesting to see what happens with Abeloth.

Honestly in all of these books it's just a short sentence about the Celestials having probably created the Maw and Center Point station. It's was never anything really in-depth. My friend Evan actually is really into the whole Celestials and i'll see if I can get some actual book references form him and I'll check out NJOE.com for something more specific. I think they have a thread over there on the Celestials. It's probably going to become more important to understanding Abeloth as the story comes to a close.

Check out what Wookiepedia has to say about them.

www.starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Celestial

Hello everyone!

I haven't started this series yet. I am trying to decide if it is better to read first "Millenium Falcon" and "Crosscurrent" or do you think I can jump directly to FOTJ?

I posted the following message on the "Quizzes" discussion topic, but since almost everyone here has read LOTF series maybe you would like to test your knowledge by taking the the quizzes I made about Sacrifice, Inferno and Invincible. They are under "star wars" tag.

I'll appreciate your comments.

Thanks

Ascension details are up.

There was way too much going on in this series go around. Lost Tribe, Abeloth, Luke Exile, ramifications of post Legacy of the Force including Maras death and Tahiri's trial, the GA vs. Jedi conflict, the Kiliks and tying into the Legacy Comics with the idea of Force using school for the Empire and appearance of the One Sith and the Celestials of The Clone Wars cartoon. Way too much going on that each plot point was resolved so unceremoniously and left you with such an underwhelming feeling, it was disappointing because each individual story could have turned out so well but there was so much going on there apparently wasn't enough time to fully flesh them all out. Which surprising because quite a few of the books were so short. I feel like with each book the plot should be self contained while pushing the overarching story arc along. I just felt like issues were pushed back to subsequent novels until the 9th book where Denning had the pull off a miracle to address everything!

I finally finished the series the other day.

Overall, I like it more than Legacy of the Force or the invasion series. It left me wanting a Sith series that takes place afterwards, written by Troy Denning, or just anyone who's not than James Luceno.

From the forwards in the latter books, it sounds like Sue Rostoni retired? I found many editorial mistakes in the last trilogy, so hopefully that was only a byproduct of the changeover and not an indication of what's to come.

If you haven't started this series yet, I definitely recommend it. That said, it has enough novel, comic, and video game references and characters that you'll probably enjoy it more if you save it for last.

I really liked it.

Loved it!