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message 1: by Marissa (new)

Marissa (millionmph) | 237 comments Ryodan is one guy that seems to be around a lot in Dreamfever but you never really quite know how to picture him. Ill see if I can find the description Mac gives when she first meets him at Chester's.


Jessa ♥ EvilDarkSide (metalgirl80) | 151 comments I dont think he is quite as powerful as Barrons but he's probably pretty darn close. He's another mystery man. KMM loves to keep us suspended with all these dark, sexy, mysterious hotties!


Jessa ♥ EvilDarkSide (metalgirl80) | 151 comments Lady Vale wrote: "And I love her for that,lol."


Totally agree! Barrons, Ryodan, Christian and V'Lane are absolutely YUMMY!


message 4: by Marissa (new)

Marissa (millionmph) | 237 comments OK First Mac is describing him "Like Barrons and my escorts, Ryodan was tall, well built. I wonder if it was a requirement to be whatever they were: no wimps allowed. He wore dark pants and a crisp white shirt, sleeves rolled up on thickly muscled forearms."
And then when she is up close, "Handsome, chilling man. His eyes were the clearest Id ever seen." He also has a scar that stretches up his left side from his shoulder to his ear.
I cant find any mention of his hair! Grrr. Will keep looking. Unless anyone else remembers anything?


message 5: by Paige (new)

Paige (paigewaller) Obviously Barrons is the main man we all lust over but I have a special spot for Ryodan as well. I hope he gets a spin off series. (Thats who I voted for!!) I can't wait to find out more.


kc (4saintjude) (4saintjude) | 13 comments Ryoden comes across to me as having a skull trim.

Paige - I think you are right, He is perfect for a spin-off. There is an entire pack of these beasty babes that could be included.


message 7: by Jesslynn (last edited Aug 18, 2010 06:13PM) (new)

Jesslynn | 146 comments Ok so this guy is a the guy off of Tudors from showtime and he has the prettiest blue eyes I've ever seen...they are light, but have kinda a purplish tint to them. Can't find a pic that show his eyes well though ;(



True Love Forever (trueloveforever) | 329 comments Does anyone think thatit might not actually be Ryodan recuing her, but that it is Darroc tricking her. How could Ryodan track Barrons mark? It would make more sense that he was tracking his own mark. Why was he hiding from the beast and trying to kill it. It makes more sense that he would have been an enemy and that the beast shoul d have trusted him. It just feels fishy, especially after that clift hanger ending wondering who the beast turned into.


message 9: by Mariya (new)

Mariya (cr6zym0nkeyiz) | 352 comments Mod
i think ryoden is still kinda a mystery to me. the ending of dreamfever left me like...."WTF??" like what just happened. and i have no idea what to really think at this point b/c there all kinds of possibliities.


message 10: by Gin (last edited Mar 10, 2011 04:59PM) (new)

Gin (gynh) | 9 comments Ok..so in my second read through Dreamfever I notice that when Jericho comes to the abbey to get Mac and his men are with him...from Dani's point of view
"One of 'em looks like Death himself, with white hair, pale skin, and hot dark eyes that assess restlessly, incessantly. They fix on me."
Is this Ryodan???


True Love Forever (trueloveforever) | 329 comments No this is not Ryodan. I don't hink he was there. Because the first time he sees Dani is after Mac gets unpriya. Remeber he says he has never seen anything like her before when they are holding her in that room at Chester's and he seems very interested in Dani. Even told Mac things were interesting again and that he might considered waiting for Dani to grow up. I think Dani would have mentioned that she saw him when they came to the abbey. He could have been there thought because doesn't Dani say something about how many men there were that were like Barrons. Go back to where they go to chester's they describe him a little, but I don;t think he is the white haired one, I think that is a guy called Lor. Can't termeber for sure. in Shadowfever a lot of the Barronish guys are described more. Because they are all at Chester's a lot and working to gether to get the book.


message 12: by Gwennie (new)

Gwennie (blessedwannab) I think it was Lor too. Mac also mentions something about Lor looking very scary like that when she first meets him.


message 13: by Gin (new)

Gin (gynh) | 9 comments I sorta answered my own question second time through the books. In Shadowfever when Mac comes to Chester's she is greeted at the bottom of the stairs by the pale white-haired guy and Lor and Ryodan is at the top of the stairs. Guess we don't have a name for Paley yet!


message 14: by Gwennie (new)

Gwennie (blessedwannab) She listed a few names. Was it the one that doesn't speak? i can't remember the other men's names.


message 15: by Gin (new)

Gin (gynh) | 9 comments Kasteo is the one that doesn't speak. I don't think its him because she always refers to him as the pale haired one. We see him again when Ryodan talks to Dani in the water tower. Its not Lore either because he was standing next to Lor when we saw him at Chesters. Fade is the only other name I remember but again I would think she would refer to him by name rather than description. Guess we will find out in the future!


Sarah ♥ dog crazy ♥  (mylheage) I love Ryo and waiting for Iced is killing me!!!


message 17: by jessica (new)

jessica hohenstein (jhohos) | 27 comments So Iced is here...can we discuss Ryodan some more?!? Is it possible he is even more methodical than Barrons?


message 18: by Claire (new)

Claire (claire1) | 34 comments Ryodan really rubbed me the wrong way in Iced. He came across as an abusive, controlling asshole. I'm disappointed because I did actually like him in the Fever books and looked forward to reading more about him.


message 19: by Sarah ♥ dog crazy ♥ (last edited Nov 13, 2012 11:51PM) (new)

Sarah ♥ dog crazy ♥  (mylheage) I actually love him more now, if that is even possible. But I can understand how his behaviour can make people dislike him.

I'm wondering how he killed Velvet. I also wonder if there will be more to him and R'jan. You know the whole "You will swear fealty to me" scene.

I want to know what his agenda is.


message 20: by Gaynell (new)

Gaynell (gaynellk) | 42 comments I think he killed Velvet by sucking his blood out of his body. I still think that the nine are some sort of vampires. I thought that when Mac was near death (when she ate the unseelie). I think that Barrons was about to turn her when she told him to feed her the unseelie. And, when Dani asks Ryodan to make her like him, he tells her to ask him again in a few years.


message 21: by Robin (new)

Robin | 11 comments I think the reason Ryodan wants Dani to ask him again in a few years is that she will then be old enough for him and won't age further if he should make her one of them.


message 22: by Jessa ♥ EvilDarkSide (last edited Nov 14, 2012 06:26AM) (new)

Jessa ♥ EvilDarkSide (metalgirl80) | 151 comments I like the darker aspects of Ryodan...they make things much more interesting. I'm still not against a pairing with Dani but the circumstances have to be right. She can pair up Ryodan and still keep him a badass motherf*cker. Guess I just have to put my faith in KMM.


message 23: by Sarah ♥ dog crazy ♥ (last edited Nov 14, 2012 09:02AM) (new)

Sarah ♥ dog crazy ♥  (mylheage) Gaynell wrote: "I think he killed Velvet by sucking his blood out of his body."

This could be. I remember Dani saying that there was no wound. I know Ryo blocked Velvet's body from her but it seems like she caught a glimpse of it.


message 24: by Jasmina (new)

Jasmina Domazet (Jaca90su) | 14 comments fey don't have blood remember Adam Black


message 25: by Davena (new)

Davena | 51 comments Robin wrote: "I think the reason Ryodan wants Dani to ask him again in a few years is that she will then be old enough for him and won't age further if he should make her one of them."

I think he said this to her is b/c she is still to young to understand what it really means to be immortal and never die!! She still thinks it's kool superhero thing!!

remember barrons and ryo keep reminding us not to think of them as heros or antiheros!!


message 26: by Mich (new)

Mich | 73 comments Robin wrote: "I think the reason Ryodan wants Dani to ask him again in a few years is that she will then be old enough for him and won't age further if he should make her one of them."

I think I disagree with this entire comment. LOL *sorry Robin :)*
This whole concept of Ryo doing everything with the intention of some day being with Dani in the biblical sense is just odd to me. (and I know so many people disagree,so this is just my opinion) Honestly, if the bottom line of the Dani trilogy is just taking us to Ryo and Dani eventually becomming lovers, than this series has run the course or Paranormal and jumped headfirst into romance. Not cool.
I also think it's possible she is one of the 9, but i don't think Ryo can turn her into the 9 (like a vampire??)

I am thinking Dani is going to make a progression into her new powers slowly, and when she is old enough to get it (possibly have the same powers too) then Ryo will walk her/mentor her through it.

(you know, i am sure I will NOT be shocked that all my theories will be wrong, as usual...LOL)


message 27: by Gaynell (new)

Gaynell (gaynellk) | 42 comments Jasmina wrote: "fey don't have blood remember Adam Black"

I don't remember Adam Black not having blood. It's been a long time since I read his book. Christian has blood because he fed Dani some to heal her. He said it was more powerful than eating unseelie.


Stacia (the 2010 club) (stacia_r) | 73 comments Mich wrote: "you know, i am sure I will NOT be shocked that all my theories will be wrong, as usual...LOL..."

Isn't that the truth? There were so many great theories going around about what was going to happen in Shadowfever that never happened. Moning really kept us guessing.


message 29: by Sarah ♥ dog crazy ♥ (last edited Nov 17, 2012 01:10AM) (new)

Sarah ♥ dog crazy ♥  (mylheage) Jasmina wrote: "fey don't have blood remember Adam Black"

I didn't know that since I haven't read the Highlander series.

Mich wrote: (you know, i am sure I will NOT be shocked that all my theories will be wrong, as usual...LOL)"

I hope you're right with your theories.


message 30: by Jasmina (new)

Jasmina Domazet (Jaca90su) | 14 comments Christian is still not full fey
There is a Quote where Adam tells Gab fey are energy no blood no hart just energy and he can't get in the whole hunger ,pee ,sleep thing

And for Ryo well remember the desert the first time they died ,I think that is the key ..........


message 31: by Ashley (last edited Nov 17, 2012 05:50PM) (new)

Ashley (shinhbang) | 43 comments So, during and after reading ICED, I am seriously still struggling to see how Ryodan looks like. I want to get a solid image of him! Because when I read, it rolls in my head like a movie, and Ryodan's face is a blur for me. I know he is as tall and built as Barrons, and looks like death. That's all I can recall.

How are you all picturing him? Any celebrity/ or male model out there that helps you see Ryodan as a "reference"?


message 32: by Jasmina (new)

Jasmina Domazet (Jaca90su) | 14 comments No but I see him in the midle of Gerard Butler and Clive Owen


Sarah ♥ dog crazy ♥  (mylheage) That's not really 100% how I see him but since I have it as a wallpaper on my computer...

Ryodan from the Fever calendar a fan made.

http://www.karenmoning.com/kmm/downlo...


message 34: by Jasmina (new)

Jasmina Domazet (Jaca90su) | 14 comments OWWWWWWWWWWWW much much more tnx Love him he is perfect


message 35: by Jasmina (new)

Jasmina Domazet (Jaca90su) | 14 comments I love Lor help? he is bald right ????


message 36: by Mich (new)

Mich | 73 comments Well...good morning ryo. Lol where do I get a 2013 calendar


message 37: by Claire (new)

Claire (claire1) | 34 comments Doesn't Ryodan have dark eyes, or am I making that up?


message 38: by Jasmina (new)

Jasmina Domazet (Jaca90su) | 14 comments I think they are light


message 39: by Sarah ♥ dog crazy ♥ (last edited Nov 18, 2012 08:38AM) (new)

Sarah ♥ dog crazy ♥  (mylheage) It was mentioned several times that his eyes are very light.


message 40: by Jasmina (new)

Jasmina Domazet (Jaca90su) | 14 comments so blue or green??? or silver ....


message 41: by Ashley (new)

Ashley (shinhbang) | 43 comments Jasmina wrote: "I love Lor help? he is bald right ????"

I thought Lor had pale long hair? :/ not so sure!


message 42: by Ashley (new)

Ashley (shinhbang) | 43 comments Sarah ♥ Vutch forever ♥ wrote: "That's not really 100% how I see him but since I have it as a wallpaper on my computer...

Ryodan from the Fever calendar a fan made.

http://www.karenmoning.com/kmm/downlo......"


Oh, that looks pretty good :)


message 43: by Xia (last edited Nov 18, 2012 12:44PM) (new)

Xia (xiat) Sarah ♥ Vutch forever ♥ wrote: "That's not really 100% how I see him but since I have it as a wallpaper on my computer...

Ryodan from the Fever calendar a fan made.

http://www.karenmoning.com/kmm/downlo......"


Love his eyes.


message 44: by jessica (new)

jessica hohenstein (jhohos) | 27 comments Ooh, I never thought of Clive Owen. I like it.


Sarah ♥ dog crazy ♥  (mylheage) Are you talking about the pic I posted a link to, Jessica? Because that's not Clive Owen.


message 46: by jessica (new)

jessica hohenstein (jhohos) | 27 comments No, Jasmin wrote that she sees Ryodan as somewhere between Clive Owen and Gerard Butler. I can't see him as Gerard Butler because that's how I picture the Keltars, however, I can see him as Clive Owen.


message 47: by Jasmina (new)

Jasmina Domazet (Jaca90su) | 14 comments jessica wrote: "No, Jasmin wrote that she sees Ryodan as somewhere between Clive Owen and Gerard Butler. I can't see him as Gerard Butler because that's how I picture the Keltars, however, I can see him as Clive O..."

tnx love


message 48: by Jennifer (new)

Jennifer (sadstrumpetjenny) from KMM's chat:

"One last note about Ryodan: He will eclipse Barrons. Blot him right out of your soul's sky. That's the challenge I've set for myself as a writer. (God, I hate it when I do this to myself.) It won't happen in the first book, or the second. But it will happen. And the gauntlet is flung...:)"


message 49: by Carina (new)

Carina  | 109 comments from KMM's chat:

"One last note about Ryodan: He will eclipse Barrons. Blot him right out of your soul's sky. That's the challenge I've set for myself as a writer. (God, I hate it when I do this to myself.) It won't happen in the first book, or the second. But it will happen. And the gauntlet is flung...:)"


Well, all I can say to that is:
Challenge Accepted Maddam!!!




message 50: by Kimberly (new)

Kimberly (kam525) | 15 comments Carina, I'm with you. It's going to be almost impossible to top Barron's. (Thought I would leave KMM a sliver of hope there)


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