DEBATE! (not forensics!) discussion

Animals should be tested in cases of medicinal reasons.

Well, if the human could be harmed in the study, it's better for an animal to be used.

I disagree. An HUMAN is A animal. We are in the animal kingdom. Personally I think we should be the ones to suffer because we are the cause and reason for most animals pain.

Yes, but humans are more important, per se, than animals. We have more dominant thought processes. And blah blah blah. Rabbits aren't the ones wearing the lab coats, we are.

Same here.

I disagree with air. That's one reason why I hate the human race..EVERYONE thinks like that...there are animals smarter than us. Just cause we can walk on two feet, speak, and have apposable thumbs makes us dominant.

I care more about a rat than your uncle :D

thank god you have that face at the end!!!

~ ! ♥ I rp therefore I am Awsome ♥ ! ~ wrote: "I disagree with air. That's one reason why I hate the human race..EVERYONE thinks like that...there are animals smarter than us. Just cause we can walk on two feet, speak, and have apposable thumbs..."

That's not what makes us dominant. Humans have souls and consciousnesses. They can love, hate, live. Animals have instincts based upon the need for survival and reproduction.

But I still think there should be very minimal animal testing, and only on animals that will feel almost no pain.

What's a soul? :3

I think animals have souls, and a conscience. I disgaree with you. Yes they are based on survival. But once so where we. We've evolved.

*APLAUDS* Gosh, I LOVE you Lindsay. You think just the way I think. It's so awful, it has got to be stopped. Oh, did I mention that my life's goal is to stop animal testing?

Yes. I mean the testing is meant for humans anyway, why should animals have to suffer for the comfort of humans?

Sorry. I think that maybe if someone was ready to sacrifice themselves to save people from Aids, they'd do it. It's just not immportent enough.

Same. My sister is almost 6. She'll be six on august 23rd. She only has one kidney. She has a UTI, if she didn't have the anti-biotics she could die. I care about my sister more than some monkey.

I care about my sister's life more. Not to mention anti-biotics were probably tested on 100 monkeies at the most. They have saved thousands, hundreds of thousands of lives.

I don't think there's nothing wrong with animal testing. I'm not saying that. I'm saying when it comes down to medications I'd rather it be a monkey (we'll name him Steve) tham my sister.

Not true. Some medication are meant to work with human blood, or with your digestive system, etc. You can only clone so much

Then let's clone a human and test things on it. Or are you against cloning too? If you're against animal testind and against cloning you don't leave any options

Fyopiagdt the CIA Pirate wrote: "I don't think there's nothing wrong with animal testing. I'm not saying that. I'm saying when it comes down to medications I'd rather it be a monkey (we'll name him Steve) tham my sister."

Awww... Sorry about your sister, but animal testing is still not a good thing, no matter who it's for.

Air wrote: "Well, if the human could be harmed in the study, it's better for an animal to be used."

How so???

Animals are just as humans. People put animals down because they're different....it's not right...

Lindsay wrote: "where's the research that proves that? pigs have very strong bonds with their moms. So do monkeys for that matter, that is why so much stress comes on a monkey by taking him away from his mother."

I agree...

Girl4beluga wrote: "not really there maternal bonds aren't like ours."

And exactly how do you know that?

hes a country superstar

I'm a more classical orchestra kind of person.

go punk, alternative and rock!

i've heard of them from somewhere....havnt heard anything by them though....why :3

oh cool! maybe i'll look them up.

Lindsay wrote: "oh that explains it. im not much of a country person.....except for Taylor Swift, she's awesome.

i'm more of a punk rock person."


same here but i don't like Taylor Swift...

Because pop country makes my ears bleed, same with country, and most pop.

Lindsay wrote: "why not?"

Idk...I just....don't =\


I like pop and hip-hop sometimes but i mostly like rock...I like bands like Breaking Benjamin, Slipknot, Disturbed, The Birthday Massacre....the list goes on and on...

wow your pretty hardcore nemonica, i love breaking benjamin too.

greenday, linken park, beck, modest mouse, cold war kids, within temptation...

Clair wrote: "Yes. I mean the testing is meant for humans anyway, why should animals have to suffer for the comfort of humans?"

Let's just take all the innocent babies and start putting drugs into their bodies, then... >:)

OKAY, THAT WAS PURE SARCASM. D:

Anyway, there were some people back in the day who cut open prisoner's bodies to see what the human body was like. I say that's much more gruesome than animal testing. o.+

Lindsay wrote: "i was asking nemonica, but ok.

i dont like most pop, except for lady gaga and maybe beyonce. others, like miley cyrus and justin beaver, make my ears bleed profoundly.

i like bands like green day..."

Lady Gaga is beast. :D

Girl4beluga wrote: "um because they leave there young after they wing them"

http://www.seeturtles.org/1403/baby-s... Here's one, read the second paragraph

What does turtles have to do with animal testing? *scrolls up and reads previous posts* Um...still don't get it....

If you read all the posts you would get it.

i saw a clip of a frustrated scientist throw a cat against the wall for the Hell of it...then Laughed!!!

thats horrid 0_0

Marco wrote: "i saw a clip of a frustrated scientist throw a cat against the wall for the Hell of it...then Laughed!!!"

WHAT? WHO? LET ME AT 'EM! I'LL KILL THAT SON OF A BITCH!

Grrr....

Sounds like my English teacher...he makes a bunch of jokes about roadkill/killing animals, which I have to admit are pretty funny. He has seven cats, I think. I feel sorry for the cats...

Yeah...

Lindsay wrote: "I think it's a terrible, cruel thing that has to be stopped."

animal texting should stop!

please tell me you didnt do that on perpose. if you did, lindsay's gonna be ticked.

Why? i'm scarred

Laura -- Pictoperson Extraordinaire wrote: "What does turtles have to do with animal testing? *scrolls up and reads previous posts* Um...still don't get it...."

We were talking about how animals don't have the same bond with their parents.

GreenDaisy the CIA Pirate wrote: "Laura -- Pictoperson Extraordinaire wrote: "What does turtles have to do with animal testing? *scrolls up and reads previous posts* Um...still don't get it...."

We were talking about how animal..."
...and?

i think animals do have the same bond to they're parents.

i read once about a plastic pig being a surrogate child to a mama tiger in a zoo, who had just lost her real babies recently. and the kicker is...the tiger cheered up and acted toward the inanimate pigs like they were her own babes!

the pigs had striped fabric on them.