~Opinions~ discussion

Hi all. What are your thoughts on evolution?

It is undeniable that evolution took place and takes place. All the evidence is there from the fossil record to DNA.

Yep, I agree. Have you ever read Darwin's On the Origin of Species? It's on my to-read list. Actually, it's sitting on my bookshelf right now, mocking me for reading another YA novel instead of it...but its time will come :).

I haven't. I guess my problem with reading it is that I would rather read the most up-to-date information on evolution. Most of Darwin's ideas are infants compared to what we know now, so if I am going to read through a lungthy book on evolution, it will be a contemporary one. I liked Your Inner Fish.

Hm...I can see where that would make sense; reading the most up-to-date information. I haven't heard of Your Inner Fish. I may have to check that one out.

I completely agree with Nathan. And I don't really understand how people can disagree with evolution when there is so much proof...

Exactly. It's like someone holding up a spoon and saying, "See, this is a spoon." And having someone reply with, "Prove it." It's already been proven; you're holding the spoon. It's right there; they can touch it; they can see it. But some people still refuse to believe.

I have a friend that doesnt believe in evolution. We actualy had an argument about it lol because i think its so stupid to think its not true, its not even something you should 'believe' in, it just is fact.

*nods*
When there's that much evidence, you do have to question someone's belief system if they choose to ignore the facts.

Yeah I once asked my friend why she didn't believe in it and she said, "Just because... I know." It was very enlightening ;)

Haha. I'm always thrown by that logic. "I just know." *shakes head* It's such a closed-minded way of looking at things. And, in a way, kind of a cop-out if you ask me.

i dont believe in evolution i believe that God created everything.

My friend said she just didnt think it was true =|. I competley did not, and still dont understand this lol.

And that's totally your right to believe that. I'm just curious, though, what is it about the evidence that doesn't appeal to you?

David, I'm curious, if you believe God created everything, how do you explain all of the proof of evolution? I realize that sounds rude by I don't mean it in a rude way :)

U know what i rlly have no clue i jus dont believe in evolution i guess

Oh, okay. Well, that's your right :).

so do you think that the evidence is just..myth?

Definitely :) So really, you just believe in your faith so much you don't question it? not saying you should, I'm just wondering.

I feel like I have to constantly explain that I'm not trying to be rude , since people are kinda tense about stuff on here haha :)

haha i feel the same way, but i dont think you have cam across as rude :)

I know, right? It's hard over the internet because you can't see someone's face or hear the inflection in their tone. That's why I try to add smileys, but even those sometimes seem like they might be taken as sarcastic when I don't mean for them to.

i know, i think you just have to know coming into this group that everyone means well, and that your opinion is respected, because i think all of us do respect each other, minus a few arguments between a couple of people :S but if you dont take things the wrong way everything should be fine lol :)

I think sometimes people just get offended too easily and need to lighten up a little. But, that's the way the world works :)

Yeh i agree. People need to chill out haha.

There is nothing in evolution that states that God didn't create everything. If God created anything, he created it through evolution.

well, what about creating adam and eve? they werent monkeys as far as i know.

OMG I LOVE SCIENCE!!!!!! I WANNA BE A BIOLOGIST!!!!

Science is pretty freakin' awesome.

Well, Adam and Eve weren't real...as far as I know. But evolution doesn't state that humans evolved from monkeys.

well, they probably did. actually (this is reverting to Jewish lore) in Hebrew "adam" means something like "mankind." adam could be a metaphor for all men, and eve could be a metaphor for all women. that would explain where lot's wife came from when there were supposedly no other women besides his mother eve. sorry, i just felt an urge to reveal that shocking bit of information that you probably don't even care about.

I'm sorry but religion confuses me haha :)

well, evolution and religion are connected in a really unconnected way.

I'm always interested to learn something new, Donatello :). But, I guess what I mean is, you said Adam and Eve could be metaphors, so they weren't real. They just supposedly represented real men and women.

I like that... since I don't believe they were real, it makes more sense to me.

Candace, why aren't you religious, if you don't mind me asking? Is it by your own choice, or is your family not religious?

I don't mind you asking. My parents are religious, but they don't support organized religion (they don't go to church). I just have a hard time believing in something so fantastical as God. There is no evidence to support the idea of God; at least not any that would convince me. As I said in another thread, sometimes faith is enough evidence for some people; but it just isn't for me. *shrugs*

It's my own choice. My parents know and support me. It isn't something I talk about with people around here because I'm in the metaphorical buckle of the southern bible belt.

I think it's really great that you chose to follow your own opinions and ideas, despite the fact that you were technically raised around religion :)

Well, my parents are very open-minded, so it wasn't really like I had to go against the grain, so to speak. My twin is a conditional christian; she says she only believes 'in case not believing will send her to hell'. My other sister is 'spiritual'. She says, "Religion is for those who don't want to go to hell. Spirituality is for those who have already been there." That's what she believes, anyway.

May I ask what kind of 'evidence' u have abt evolustion?!

May I ask what kind of 'evidence' u have abt evolustion?!

Fossil record, DNA, biology, laboratory observation...

I kwn dat; I mean specific proof. How can someone say that monkeys DNA went thru muattion to eventually become humans? Sorry but that not only sounds pathetic, but just shows how people like u, who dnt blv in relelgion are cuming up with dumb excuses for stuff that only God can do.

I'm sorry, but my ancestors were not konkeys. maybe urs were, but not mine

How can someone say that monkeys DNA went thru muattion to eventually become humans?

No one says that. The only people who say that are the people who know nothing about evolution's claims.

Sorry but that not only sounds pathetic, but just shows how people like u, who dnt blv in relelgion are cuming up with dumb excuses for stuff that only God can do.

Talk about pathetic. Not knowing anything about science is pathetic.

I'm sorry, but my ancestors were not konkeys. maybe urs were, but not mine

Learn about evolution before you dismiss it. You only make yourself look like a fool.

Candace (Amare Infinitum) wrote: "There is nothing in evolution that states that God didn't create everything. If God created anything, he created it through evolution."

That is very true. This is the best way to explain how evolution and creationism can co-exist in any fashion. It is what I would subscribe to.

Rj Amina wrote: "I kwn dat; I mean specific proof. How can someone say that monkeys DNA went thru muattion to eventually become humans? Sorry but that not only sounds pathetic, but just shows how people like u, who..."

Actualy none of our ancestors were monkeys. They were Hominids, which evolved into homo sapiens. There is scientific proof of this. How do you think children gro into adults, babies to todlers, tadpoles to frogs. Its all apart of evolution, you can say its pathetic but you are experiecing evoloution eah day you live. However there is no proof that 'God' created everything, God is a faith that people believe in but no one can justify. Evoloution is fact.

That is very true. This is the best way to explain how evolution and creationism can co-exist in any fashion. It is what I would subscribe to.

Evolution is one of the reasons I don't believe in God. It would take a very strange engineer to design things in such a way as to where they evolved into the end product when the engineer could simply have made the end product. God would have had to use evolution in order to make himself appear unnecessary. This seems like an odd route for him to take if belief in him is essential to human happiness as the religious claim.

Evolution is one of the reasons I don't believe in God, too.

Lauren wrote: "Rj Amina wrote: "I kwn dat; I mean specific proof. How can someone say that monkeys DNA went thru muattion to eventually become humans? Sorry but that not only sounds pathetic, but just shows how p..."
but before hominids, there was Australopithecus,and that literally meant "southern ape". before that species were pure monkeys, i believe.

Well from what i learned in psychology thats not true. It says that, Gibbons were first and then there was a whole chain of evolutionary animals that lead to hominids then homo sapiens. And my lecturer made a point of saying that we were definitely not decendent from monkeys. I could be wrong but thats what i have learned.

Evolution doesn't say humans are descended from monkeys. You aren't wrong :).

woo lol :P