The Infernal Devices discussion

Well ive had this discussion with other people before
Characters Virginity.....?
Are they Virgins


Alec.........hmmmmmmmmmm
Aline........hmmmmmmmmmm
Clary........yes
Hodge........yes
Isabelle.....No
Jace.........Not
Luke.........hmmmmmmmmmm
Magnus.......no
Maia.........maybe
Raphael......maybe
Sebastian....HMMMMMMMMM you never know ima go with yes
Simon........Yes
Tessa........Yes
Jessamine....yes
Will.........not
Jem..........yes

I agree with all of them, except Izzy is a maybe for me

Agreed.

No she isnt Cassie said somthing i forgot where i think it was when she answered questions here on goodreads

she said that Isabelle was a very strong character and some other things i cant remember but she said how Isabelle will sleep with who ever she wants and more things i cant remember

in that case i agree with all of them =) actually i think Aline is STILL a virgin, but i think that's gonna change in the upcoming books!

Interesting post! I've always wondered. In my opinion:
Alec....Yes It seems to me that he's never really been romantically involved with anyone because:
A) He's a Shadowhunter and that's usually not their first priority
B)He's so frightened of being with Magnus in the books because of the conventional views of his parents and the Clave. Also, he sort of faked being in love with Jace as an excuse not to get involved with someone. Alec is very, very, afraid of how others will react to his orientation in the series so I would definitely say he's still a virgin.

Aline...No. I'd say probably not because she was so quick to hook up with Jace and "experiment". When she's confessing she didn't have feelings for Jace, it sounded to me almost like she was just making sure she was truly gay.

Clary...This is an easy one. Clary is definitely a virgin. (Will THAT change? lol!)

Hodge...No. Most likely not just because he's so old.

Isabelle...No. Most likely not for obvious reasons lol. But hey you never know. I wouldn't be surprised either way.

Jace...No, but if I had to guess I'd say he hasn't had sex a lot, but that he's definitely had it.

Luke..No. Again, he's much older, though I'm sure he's always secretly wished he was with Jocelyn while with a woman. haha

Magnus...No. He's like 150 lol

Maia...No. I wouldn't be surprised if that guy (what was his name, grr I can't remember) sort of forced her into having sex by charming her. If they didn't have sex, I'd say she is a virgin.

Raphael...No

Sebastian....Yes, because he's grown up with basically only Valentine and does not care about love, sexual pleasure, etc.

Simon........Yes

Tessa........Yes

Jessamine....yes

Will....No, but he could be lying haha

Jem....yes

the only reason why i think Aline is a virgin, is cause she still didn't even know she was a lesbian till she "experimented" with Jace! so how could she have lost her virginity from the time she was making out with Jace till the end of CoG?!

btw Magnus is more like 700 years old =)

Daylighter wrote: "the only reason why i think Aline is a virgin, is cause she still didn't even know she was a lesbian till she "experimented" with Jace! so how could she have lost her virginity from the time she wa..."

I sort of interpreted it differently. I kind of have this scenario in my head where one day Aline realized she was attracted to girls and maybe, (or maybe not) had sex with one. Then she started having mixed feelings and just to be sure that she was completely lesbian and not bisexual she was going to go ahead and have sex with Jace but while they were hooking up, she'd already decided she wasn't into boys. So in my head she'd already lost her virginity before CoG. However, I haven't read the book in a while and had no idea Aline was a lesbian until I'd finished it so when I reread it I might have different thoughts.

Aline's a lesbian?
Since when?

since CoG when she told Clary that the reason she was with Jace was for her to see if she was into boys or not!

@ Jen that's interesting i didn't look at it that way, i figured they're too young

ummmmm....

Daylighter wrote: "since CoG when she told Clary that the reason she was with Jace was for her to see if she was into boys or not!

@ Jen that's interesting i didn't look at it that way, i figured they're too young"

They are all very young, but most people lose their virginity very young

So apparently Alec's not a virgin!

Ah… Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm…

not after Magnus i dont think so before that maybe

Jen wrote: "Interesting post! I've always wondered. In my opinion:
Alec....Yes It seems to me that he's never really been romantically involved with anyone because:
A) He's a Shadowhunter and that's usually..."

Magnus is 800 years old not 150

800? i read somewere it was closer to 900.

Daylighter wrote: "the only reason why i think Aline is a virgin, is cause she still didn't even know she was a lesbian till she "experimented" with Jace! so how could she have lost her virginity from the time she wa..."

how do u know aline is a lesbian? was it in CoG?

yeah! she told Clary at the end of CoG she wanted to see if guys were her thing by making out with Jace & realized they weren't, meaning she's into girls.

I REALLY think Will is a virgin!!!!! why does everyone say he isnt!?!??!!

Meghana wrote: "I REALLY think Will is a virgin!!!!! why does everyone say he isnt!?!??!!"

Why would he spend time in brothels or with women of "questionable virtue" if he's a virgin?

gahhh I don't think he's having... yeah... because he's 17.. but then again, I don't know how times were back in the day... I'm just kinda HOPING that he has the least bit respect for himself.....

i think hes a virgin too, idk why its just...

this is what i think... Will is lying about going to to brothels and all, doesn't mean he IS a virgin because he could be but then again he could not... i think he just wanders around London, and as for his mood? what do you think your mood would be if you had to listen to the dead all the time?

listen to the dead? what do u mean?

thats some info from the CP prologue... i agree with Shel! I don't think Will is always going to brothels and getting drunk and everything (ok maybe sometimes he gets drunk duh)... i think he gets drunk when he's upset.. example: when Tessa cam to the institute, Will had fallen completely in love with her and he didn't want to because he knew the relationship wouldnt work. I think that he is hiding a really really bad past (Cecily, etc) and something might be wrong with him (something related to demons?) and he doesn't want to hurt anybody he loves. In order to protect them, he wants to stay away from them, so he's basically sacrificing his own life to protect those he loves :( what a cutie!

I have to say, that I think he's deeper than Jem... i just have this feeling that Will is the good guy and Jem isnt. :/

ohh ok then, aww im sorry will

have to agree on all counts with Meghana.

woohoo i guess it was worth typing the essay ;) lol i love talking about these books!

ya, same

yea if you read Of Loss there are things that sugest that he is so i changened my mind

What I think so far

TMI:
Clary- yes
Jace- apparently it's going to come up in future books
Simon- yes
Izzy- no
Alec- no
Magnus- no
Jordan- no/maybe
Maia- yes
Luke- no
Sebastian- no
Raphael- no
Aline- yes so far
Maureen- yes
Lilith- no
Seelie Queen- no
Kaelie- no
Meliorn- no

TID:
Will- yes
Jem- yes
Tessa- yes
Jessie- no
Nate- no
Sophie- yes
Gideon- maybe
Gabriel- no
Ragnor- no
Magnus- no
Camille- no
Woolsey- no
Thomas- yes
Cyril- no clue
Agatha- yes
Bridget- yes
Axel- no

“In other words, Simon has never been to South Carolina. He lives in Virginia.”
—Cassandra Clare

Well that clears up Simon

I thought Will was a virgin???? I didn't recall him saying he wasn't.

I agree with them all, but I think that since Sebastian must be so hot, he must have lost his virginity.

Are we doing this with the latest books? Because I have something to add if we're doing it for all the books that are out...