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Do you thinking smoking in public should be legal?

Yay! I'm the first one. Lol anyways I think smoking should be illegal everywhere, but of course that will never happen! But smoking should at least smoking should be banned in public. Secondhand smoke is almost as dangerous as smoking itself and can make people who are frequently exposed to it sick and possibly kill( slim chance, but it has happened!) them!

I don't care if people smoke, I'm never going to but well they're addicted they can't help it. But public smoking I have a problem with, you shouldn't expose others to the dangers of your habit.

Agreed. It would be great if people just stopped trying smoking in the first place so they wouldn't get addicted! I did a paper on smoking and if people only knew the dangers of smoking i had to list, they could not even think about smoking. My grandad in a way died from smoking so i feel strongly about this issue!

I personally hate the smell of tabbacco smoke and can only stand it for that secnod where I get my breath and hold it. And I wonder how in the world the people who smoke like it. But I think that smoking should only be allowed in special places not easily accessed by normal nonsmoking people. Kind of like opium houses in the 19th century

That makes since. Hopefully the government will do that and make lots of other places nonsmoking so it will encourage people not to smoke.

I don't think people should be allowed to smoke in public buildings, but just out on the street it doesn't really hurt anyone so I'm alright with that.

I think they should make certain outdoor places nonsmoking. For example, the county fair. Where I live, the fair literally attracts smokers! Everywhere you go, there is someone smoking in line, smoking and eating, etc. I hate it! ( but i still go for the rides)

I believe they are banning smoking in Finland, and I know that smoking in public buildings is already banned in my state.

There's the small threat of having secondhand smoke when you are exposed to smoke, but the risk is sort of small. The risk grows when you are prolonged to the smoke.

To clarify: I am an American with a fascination of Finland :-P

Brielle: That's a very fair point - so maybe public events as well? And like...amusement parks and such as well...I don't know what to call this category T_T

Tenebris: Yeah, but you also have to be exposed kind of regularly for it to have much effect.

I've actually seen smoking areas in amusement parks before... If only they where mandatory for all public attractions such as that.

Yeah i go to Kings Dominion a lot( season passes) and they do have smoking areas, but sometimes people break the rules and smoke on their way to rides in stuff, and dont get in trouble! If public events and attractions aren't going to be nonsmoking, at least have special smoking areas where the rules are enforced.

*in meant and. Sorry

Yeah, that's a good idea, I agree.

Thanks. I've gtg to bed now, but i will keep following the debate tommorow. Good night everyone!

Good night :)

I'd rather people smoked outside than in their houses, since secondary smoke might be harmful to their families. I hate the smell of smoke and I feel terrible for people who are addicted to cigarettes, but well ... there's not much that can be done about that.

♥ Rachel♥ wrote: "Do you thinking smoking in public should be legal?"

Smoking, overall, is bad. Yes, I say drugs are bad and so is smoking. Its the truth, k?

Its harmful not only to people who smoke but people who breathe in the smoke. Of course, smoking will never be banned in my lifetime, so that's out the window. But it should atleast be banned in public.

The smoke is one small source of pollution to our world. The smoke also harms people breathing it, as I mentioned before, especially people with asthma or lung/breathing problems. It can also affect your eyes if you are exposed to it. People should be able to walk outside without coughing or smelling other people's smoke.

Besides, why would you want to hurt your body? Education about the harmful effects of cigarettes are very well-known, yet people are too arrogant to care. I just can't imagine someone wanting to just, deteriorate you body every single time you light one of those death sticks.

Of course, smoking will never be banned in my lifetime, so that's out the window. But it should atleast be banned in public.

If it was banned in public, then people would smoke inside their houses and destroy their families' health. And second-hand smoke is a lot worse when it's inside, since it gets trapped in. Outside it spreads out more, so it has less of an effect on the people around you.

Um, do you think people already don't smoke in their houses? And if they want to destroy their families' health, thats up to them.

Its still wrong. Smoking is just plain-Jane wrong. But its not going to be illegal since so many people smoke, so it should atleast be outlawed to public. ATLEAST.

Yes, I'm so dumb I don't know people smoke inside their houses. *headdesk*

I know people smoke in their homes, but what I'm saying is banning smoking in public might increase that habit and thus lead to more second-hand smoke problems.

luhvBOOKS *~Colin Morgan/JD Forever~* wrote: "And if they want to destroy their families' health, thats up to them."

Uh...is this some kind of typo?

Mello wrote: "luhvBOOKS *~Colin Morgan/JD Forever~* wrote: "And if they want to destroy their families' health, thats up to them."

Uh...is this some kind of typo?"

I don't think so? Except "that's" is missing an apostrophe.

Tee hee.

Both my parents smoke doesn't bother me, but they smoke out side sooooo.

Exactly.

Brigid *Flying Kick-a-pow!* wrote: "Mello wrote: "luhvBOOKS *~Colin Morgan/JD Forever~* wrote: "And if they want to destroy their families' health, thats up to them."

Uh...is this some kind of typo?"

I don't think so? Except "that'..."

I mean, luhvbooks can't seriously say that people have the right to destroy the health of other people simply because they are related to each other? Especially around babies and younger children who can't just ask mummy or daddy to step outside to smoke so they don't develop lung cancer?

Brigid *Flying Kick-a-pow!* wrote: "Exactly."

Smoke is pollution and affects everyone who breathes, which is EVERYONE.

Then how about you get them to close down places that burn garbage, and other debree, I mean there is lots more stuff that they burn that is 10x worse then cigarett smoke, just sayin.

luhvBOOKS *~Colin Morgan/JD Forever~* wrote: "Brigid *Flying Kick-a-pow!* wrote: "Exactly."

Smoke is pollution and affects everyone who breathes, which is EVERYONE."

I don't think you understand that second-hand smoke is a lot worse than smoking outside. Second-hand smoke is contained in a condensed area, which therefore gives it more harmful effects. Whereas, when someone smokes outside the smoke is able to disperse. No, it's not good for anyone; but it has a more damaging effect on people inside than it does outside.

Maddie*I hear in my mind all of these voices* wrote: "Then how about you get them to close down places that burn garbage, and other debree, I mean there is lots more stuff that they burn that is 10x worse then cigarett smoke, just sayin."

That's true. Banning cigarettes won't fix the pollution problem.

Exactly, I mean smoking is bad for the smokers health and others if your standing next to them or they are smoking in the house, which is why my parents make the kids stay inside if they are smoking outside, they also never smoke inside of that reason.

Brigid *Flying Kick-a-pow!* wrote: "luhvBOOKS *~Colin Morgan/JD Forever~* wrote: "Brigid *Flying Kick-a-pow!* wrote: "Exactly."

Smoke is pollution and affects everyone who breathes, which is EVERYONE."

I don't think you understand ..."

OHMYGOSH!! I didn't say that cigarette smoke was worse than second-hand smoke. SHEESH. I only said it is a factor and that when you directly breathe it in, it can harm your body, especially people who have lung problems such as asthma, bronchitis, pneumonia(sp?), etc. So stop hating!! :P


FYI- This is a Cigarettes Debate. I'm not going to rant about burning garbage and waste. -.-

First off, I'm not "hating" since disagreeing does not equal hating.

Secondly, I'm aware that cigarette smoke is harmful whether it's inside or outside. I'm just saying that banning smoking in public would not help things and smokers would just take it into their homes, which would have more damaging effects on many peoples' health.

Yeah, and there are age restictions on that stuff for a reason, becasue by that age you should be able to make your own choices.

Well, its a pretty stupid decision to smoke. It hurts you and others.

What I mean is that smoking is not productive.

luhvBOOKS *~Colin Morgan/JD Forever~* wrote: "Well, its a pretty stupid decision to smoke. It hurts you and others.

What I mean is that smoking is not productive."

Well DUHHHH but that doesn't change the fact that people smoke.

Yeah, because they are ignorant. Actually some are totally cognizant of the effects of smoking and still do it.

So, nor is half the stuff humans do. Is watching tv productive? Nor is drinking.. Playing video game. There is so much stuff that people do that isn't productive but we wouldn't ban that. It might be damaging to your health but so is doing drugs, walking in the rain without a jacket, eating candy and other junk food. I think it should be up to the person who's smoking to smoke. Not the goverment.

Walking in the Rain without a jacket? Seriously?

That's like making eating cookies illegal. If you eat too many, you get sick. But that's stupid, right? Its you decision to eat those cookies. Its not like they BLACKEN YOUR LUNGS.

Our bloody country was founded on tobacco it was a huge export in Colonial America and if it wasn't for it we would be a much different country. Don't try and kill our history.

Cody wrote: "Our bloody country was founded on tobacco it was a huge export in Colonial America and if it wasn't for it we would be a much different country. Don't try and kill our history."

We also used slaves to help harvest tobacco. Tell me, did we also "kill our history" with the 13th Amendment? ._.

Cigarettes are bad, and in my opinion, they should either be taken off the shelves, taxed until they are 20 or 30 dollars a pack, or have their ingredients changed. In the past, cigarettes weren't made with the high level of crap they are now. They were mostly just that: tobacco. Now cigarettes have posions and carcinogens in them. Amonia, cyanide, carbon monoxide, and hundreds more. This is the stuff smokers but into their lungs with every drag. This stuff is transfered with second- and third-hand smoke. It shouldn't be legal to willingly expose yourself and others to stuff that can cause cancer, birth defects, lung disease, and death.

I'm always glad to hear of places that ban smoking. Of course, you still get people who openly ignore the rules. One time, when I was going into a hospital, I saw a worn-down looking man, hooked up to an IV pump with a bunch of tubes, barely looking like he was alive, lighting up a cigarette right next to the door. Really?

I also think more emphasis should be put on getting people to quit. I know that quitting an addiction is hard, but is it right to give up on stuff that's difficult? People fight addiction, go to war, face sickness, and keep going forward everyday. Addiction should not be something people can wave around to keep themselves from changing. Honestly, it's better for -everyone- if cigarettes were eliminated.

Sarah wrote: "Cody wrote: "Our bloody country was founded on tobacco it was a huge export in Colonial America and if it wasn't for it we would be a much different country. Don't try and kill our history."

We ..."

Right, right, right and right. But yet you still can't force other people from doing it even if you think it's bad. That borderlines on violation of free will.

Kidding about the history part ,well mostly, slavery was oppressing people allowing people to smoke is allowing people to make their own choices giving them freedom. Also tobacco sales help our economy quite a bit.

I still do not understand why is it legal to do harm to others under the pretense of smoking. Smoking does kill, it's been proven to kill, ergo, it should not be legal.

I don't care what people do in their spare time. You can drink (without driving), have crazy sex, crochet hats for the faeries that live in the toadstool in your backyard, whatever. That stuff isn't going to be harmful to myself and others. (Leaving out drunk driving and assult while under the influence of alcohol) Cigarettes, however, effect everyone. I'm sure a lot of people don't enjoy having to walk through clouds of smoke to get into buildings, or like smelling the smell of stale cigarettes on people's clothing.

Yes, I can't force anyone to do anything. However, there should be a law against this.

Cody wrote: "Our bloody country was founded on tobacco it was a huge export in Colonial America and if it wasn't for it we would be a much different country. Don't try and kill our history."

Yeah. I understand that. that doesn't mean its right!!

About the eating cookies thing .. you could still potentially gain more weight if you ate a consistent diet of them.

Smoking is up to the person. I think we're in the right track of raising awareness about what it can do to you, but it's up to the person. Tobacco companies are making a lot of money out of it: it may be a harmful business, but who is to say that it's the only large thing that's hurting us?

Again, up to the person, let them pick their poison. I remember a quote one of my musicians once said, something about how if someone does suicide then that's one less silly person (but suicide is another topic ..). I just thought it semi-relates to this. Pick your poison?

but should it be illegal?? Cookies should be illegal? Really?

Drug dealers make money on illegal drugs. are they right?

It was an analogy -_-

Yeah. And I found a loophole. xD

"It's not a ... perfect metaphor." - Dr. Horrible <3 MEH HEH.