Debates of all sorts discussion

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No you can comment and stuff, just don't post topics without asking. Debate all you want, just get permission before you add debates.

Yes. There is also a topic under the other folder called Suggestion for topics where you are meant to do this. It's a place for suggestions.

I guess i will start the debate then! Of course, I am not ok with public nudity. You can walk around naked all you want at home, but nobody wants to see all that stuff in the street! At the beach i can see people walking around in bikinis, but in public, girls and guys should at least wear a shirt or something to cover up. What i really don't like though is when i see girls wearing jean shorts so short that they are like jean UNDERWEAR! They barely cover up their butt or their panties!

Public nudity is illegal...at least, it is here. There are indecent exposure laws regulating that.

In my opinion, if you want to walk around in a bikini, go ahead: people will probably think worse of you for it, but that's your decision. Just not tiny bikinis...like, most of the butt and boobs must be covered :P

I don't really have a stand on this. I mean yeah if your wearing a thong bikini you should be wearing a coverup but other then that, I don't really care if your walking down the street looking like a slut, just as long as I don't get a nice view of your bum.

I guess so!

Yeah, agreed.

A girl can actually be topless in public in Central Park in New York, I think? Just found that out not too long ago.

Totally true, Aleph. I suppose anyone is entitled to dress how they wish, but they will face consequences. I know I sometimes take risks wearing what I wear (nothing skimpy, but just against the norm) and I have attracted unwanted attention.

I suppose this would be a good place to talk about school and dress codes. A dress code topic on its own would be lovely, but .. I notice that a lot of girls in my school wear those "denim underwear" or booty shorts and feathers and fake tans .. and they don't get stopped for it. But I was stopped once because my black jeans were "too rugged" and for wearing a long flowing black jacket. Yeah, because I'm totally someone to carry around weapons -_-

Wow that's crazy! They need 2 put a certain length restriction on shorts at schools cuz soon schools will be full of girls looking like sluts!

And they allow that, but they don't like tank tops. One of our administrators (an older fat man) called it "seductive" -_- Creepy, no?

Oh no, I'm showing my shoulders .. what a scandal! It's like back in the day (1800s?) when showing your ankles and/or knees was such a bad thing. If only they could see us now ..

I think you can go topless in Austin too, but I know that you can breatfeed in public in Austin.

Tenebris In Lux wrote: "And they allow that, but they don't like tank tops. One of our administrators (an older fat man) called it "seductive" -_- Creepy, no?"

...My grandpa was giving me a speech about proper dress the other day and he said something like this: "I know you're overflowing with hormones right now, and I know a woman's role is to seduce, but that doesn't mean you have to seduce everybody 24/7!!!" '-_-

.. Wow o_o

That's great!:P

Lol thats an awkward conversation rachel! O and i know you can breastfeed publically in certain US cities( i've heard of a couple foreign women doing it since they really care if people see their stuff!), but I've never heard of people being able to go topless. You must be crazy if you are a woman and suddenly feel like taking of your shirt. Take that to a strip club please!

*don't really care

It was '-_-

Oh yeah, I've seen public breastfeeding around here...and toplessness in France (on a beach) actually....
Do you guys think it's alright for a girl to have her top off at a beach?

I see no problem with it

Hey, I wish I was a guy so that I could do that! I don't get why guys don't take advantage of that all the time!

Why are womens' nipples seen as obscene, anyway?

Because they turn guys on.

And what about shirtless guys? Surely that could be a turn on, no?

I never understood that...and I'm bi '-_-

I'd feel too awkward doing it but I guess there's not really a problem with others doing it :P

I'm bi too.

Is it because the breasts are overly fetishized? Or because they are used for breast feeding? Or because the parts are different than a male?

I've seen guys jogging and girls jogging with sports bras. Imagine no bras .. oy.

I've seen my brothers without a shirt, it makes it very akward to see a man without a shirt.

Yeah. Especially hairy guys >_<

Or guys with manboobs

Water parks are the worst! Almost every guy isn't wearing a shirt, and lots of them are fat and hairy old men.

Ehhhh .. forgot about flabby dudes *shudder*

Or topless women that are accepted to be topless because she's a weight lifter and no longer has real breasts .. ._.

EWWWW!I hate body builders!

If I could unsee anything .. then that would be it ..

Tenebris In Lux wrote: "I'm bi too.

Is it because the breasts are overly fetishized? Or because they are used for breast feeding? Or because the parts are different than a male?

I've seen guys jogging and girls jogg..."

Hurrah!, probably overly fetishized tbh :P, and lol yeah...although for some women I don't think it would be that bad, but if they're bigger...eep.

Celine wrote: "Water parks are the worst! Almost every guy isn't wearing a shirt, and lots of them are fat and hairy old men."

I know right??!! Eww T_T

Tenebris In Lux wrote: "Or topless women that are accepted to be topless because she's a weight lifter and no longer has real breasts .. ._."

Body builders are a bit scary '-_-

...I don't know whether to laugh or shudder... Anyways lol.

Hehe .. moving on ..

Yeah, a woman with her top off... I'm not sure... Now it seems wrong, but that's due to our society, there are many societies that did (and do) not think anything of breasts...

That's true.

True that....

AMEN BROTHER!

Breasts have been over-fetishized over the years. Society tells us that womens' nipples are obscene ..

Aleph - Is there really a difference between the 'seductive' and the 'hippy' law-wise? How would you enforce what the spirit of the underdressedness is? :P

Oh, alright. Yeah, most people are decent enough to be proper in public....

What do you guys think of nudist colonies?

They can do whatever they want, but I aint going there. Though I do think it's great that they are that comfortable with their bodies, I ain't with my own.

Agree...one thing to add though: I'm not that comfortable with their bodies either '-_-

Oh I'm not either.

Nina wrote: "Would you be ok with people walking up and down the street in a bikini or something, because it is legal, you know? What would you consider appropriate, what should and shouldn't be illegal? What a..."

Um, if I was walking with my sisters across the street, I wouldn't want to see some naked lady there too. Thats just gross.

Nudity...ew.

The human body is nothing to be ashamed of, but when I see those low riders I have a strange urge to yell at the people "IF I SEE ANY BUTTS I AM KICKING THEM!"

hehehe

Lololololol :P

Of course, we shouldn't be ashamed of our body, but kids or ME dont wanna see any butts or boobs either.