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Andrew Hollinger (andrewhollinger) | 9 comments Mod
1. Explain Lennie and George's relationship. Use quoted text and embedded quotations to support your answer.

2. According to your research, what does "of mice and men" imply? Do you see any foreshadowing in the text? use quoted text and embedd quotations to support your answer.

3. Post ONE of your dialectical journal entries from the first 37 pages. Post the quote and your response.

4. In your own words, explain what DIDLS is used for and how it can be beneficial in our understanding of texts.


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Maggie | 14 comments 1.nk klkv


message 3: by Jorge (last edited Sep 07, 2011 01:31PM) (new)

Jorge | 13 comments 1. Lennie isn't a very smart fellow and he probably relies on George for enlightment. Its peculiar how it seems George has a certain authority over Lennie, sort of "like a terrior who doesn't want to bring the ball to its master" or like a parent would or his child (Steinbeck 9). George and Lennie in a way balance each other out: George having the smarts, and Lennie having the physical strength. So for Lennie to trust George so much, they must have known each other for quite some time.


message 4: by Rhi (new)

Rhi | 16 comments 1. Their relationship is strange, Lennie copies George's every move, while at the river George "replaced his hat, pushed himself back from the river, drew up his knees and embraced them. Lennie, who had been watching, imitated George exactly. He pushed himself back, drew up his knees, embraced them, [and] looked over to George to see whether he had it just right"(4). Lennie is timid and does whatever George tells him, George is overly harsh and bossy towards Lennie.


message 5: by Kelsey (new)

Kelsey | 12 comments 1. The relationship between George and Lennie is different in many ways because George can be really mean to Lennie, but at the same time he still cares about him. For example George was saying all the time how if Lennie was not with him he would live more peacfully and so easy. "God a'mighty, if I was alone I could live so easy. No mess at all, and when the end of the month come I could take my fifty bucks and go into town and get whatever I want." Then when Lennie tells George he will leave, George says he was just kidding and that he doesn't want him to go. So there relationship is good, because they look over each other.


message 6: by Javier (new)

Javier | 12 comments 1.- They depend on each other they dont have to like each other but they still depend, lennie on george's intelligence and george's on lennie, (for him not to be a lone man), "when i think of the swell time i could have without you, i go nuts. i never get no peace..." "george,, you want i should go away and leave you alone?... "look i was jus' foolin' lennie cause i want you to stay with me..." "I want you to stay with me, lennie. jesus christ somebody'd shoot you for a coyote if you was by yourself"


message 7: by Monte (new)

Monte | 8 comments 1. George can be mean to him but he just does it because he wants to make sure nothing bad happens to him."Look, Lennie, if you get in any kind of trouble, you remember what I told you to do?" this shows how he cares about if he gets in any trouble.

2. It implys that no matter how much you plan something will go wrong. Yes it foreshadows that something bad is going to happen to George and Lennie.
"Look, Lennie! This here ain'tno set up. I'm scared. You gonna have trouble with that Curley guy..."

3. Q: "The water is warm too, for it has slipped twinkling over the yellow sands in the sunlight before reaching the narrow pool."

R: When i read this i can just feel the warm water and picture looking at the yellow sands and the sunlight reflecting off the water. I can just imagine looking at all of it and feeling the water.

4. DIDLS helps readers understand whats going on how it helps the reader picture what their saying about whats going on.


message 8: by Mark (new)

Mark | 2 comments 1.The realationship between Lennie and George is like two loving bickering brothers, where George is the more protective and easily annoyed older brother, and Lennie is the nice easily confused younger brother. George may argue with Lennie a lot, but he still wants him to "stay with [him]" no matter how serious there arguments can get.
2. The title for "Of Mice and Men" implys that there not going to get what they are shooting for. George and Lennys plan says that the are planning on getting "a lottle house and a couple of acres an' a cow and some pigs and...have rabbits", but form what the titile says that there not going to get it.
3. (Evidence) "I forgot. I tried not to forget... I remember about the rabbits, George." (4)
(Commentary) This shows that Lennie is very forgetful he doesn't remember much, but the things he does remember tend to be very soothing and draw his attention. It also shows that he gets real nervous if he forgets something.
4. DIDLS is used to help annotate, by seperating your annotations in certain categorys.


message 9: by Jonathan (new)

Jonathan Sears | 5 comments 1. George and Lenny's relationship is pretty close i guess you could say. GEaorge usually gets after Lenny cause of all the stupid stuff he does but deep down inside i really think George is just looking out for him. "Lenny!.. Lenny for God' sake dont drink so much..Your gonna be sick like you was last night."

2. It implies that no matter how much work you put into planning something to come out perfectly, something is bound to happen. "Well, look. Lennie---if you jus' happen to get in trouble like you always done before, i want you to come right here an' hide in the brush..Hide in the brush till i come for you"

3. Q: "Lennie, for God' sakes dont drink so much...You gonna be sick like you was last night"(3).

R: This shows me how reckless Lennie is about his health. It also shows me that George is looking out for Lennie somewhat. I mean, how sick was he last night? Was it really not that bad for him to go on and drink up a river fearlessly and recklessly. Or is he just not all there?

4. DIDLS is benificial in our understanding of the text because "D", which stands for Dialect, helps us understand where they are from. "I", which stands for imagery helps us picture images in our head when we see text. Sight, sound, touch, taste, and smell are the five senses we have when we read a text. The second "D", which stands for details helps us state the important details that are happening in the story. "L", which stands for language helps us understand the kind of language they speak and how they talk.


message 10: by Andrea (new)

Andrea | 13 comments 1. George and Lennie have a "love-hate" relationship. During the time that they were on their way to the new ranch they decided to stop for the night. George comes off as very aggressive toward Lennie. It seems that George calls all the shots "You can jus' as well go to hell" (p16) and Lennie admires George enough to take whatever comments George throws at him.
2. According to the text I can predict that George, Lennie, and Curley may get into an argument later in the book. The first time they meet starts off the drama that is yet to come "His eyes flashed over George, took in his height, measured his reach, looked at his trim middle" (p.37) it seems that Curley is trying to size him up and put George in his place right from the start.
3. Evidence: "Blubberin' like a baby! Jesus Christ! A big guy like you" (p9)
Commentary: Why does Lennie allow George to talk to him like he is worthless?
I think that Lennie and George go way back. Something may have happened in the past where George saved Lennie and he feels as if he owes him or may admire him greatly for that. Toward the end of the book the author may reveal to his readers what that past event was that causes Lennie to forever cherish George. Throughout the beginning of the book, Lennie continually puts down George and he just takes it. This could be a result of George needing Lennie for some reason or another. therefore he may just look beyond the hurtful comments and go along with whatever Lennie tell him to do.
4. DIDLS is used to refer back to important events in a book and experience a deeper understanding of the meaning behind the book. DIDLS also can be beneficial for understanding not just the book, but what the author wanted his/her readers to get out of the book. By following the "rules" of DIDLS, one can get more out of reading a book by figuring out why the author wrote the way he did or why he wrote a specific detail a certain way.


message 11: by Jorge (last edited Sep 07, 2011 01:31PM) (new)

Jorge | 13 comments 2. The title Of Mice and Men is in reference to Robert Burns' poem. The full phrase is "the best laid plans of mice and men often go awry." Having this in mind the title is implying that the book is about plans going wrong rather than working out. In the story Lennie "can't keep a job", he made George lose "ever'job" he got into, he gets in trouble, and he does "bad things"(Steinback 11). In the story Lennie is portryaed as a failure in a way, since he seems to fall to his bad habits. Since George comes along side him, Lennie also messes up George's chances of a decent job. I do foreshadow that Lennie will probably mess things up for himself as well as George for some bad habits are hard to break from.


message 12: by Rhi (new)

Rhi | 16 comments 2. The "Men" in of mice and men refers to the common man. "Mice" is a an example of symbolism. Yes, Lennie loves to pet mice, but he accidentally and non-intentionally kills them, he would "pet 'em, and pretty soon they bit [his] fingers and [he] pinched their heads a little and then they [were] dead-because they [were] so little"(Steinbeck 10). I think that the Mice's fate foreshadow Lennie's.


message 13: by Cole (new)

Cole | 12 comments 1. Lennie and George are friends who travel the country looking for work anywhere they can find it. Lennie is extremely large and strong but he's not very smart, he thinks like a child would. He especially likes to touch soft things, he finds a dead mouse while they are waking to the ranch and George has to take it from him because Lennie won't give it up "Uh-uh. Just a dead mouse, George. I didn' kill it. Honest! I found it. I found it dead....I could pet it with my thumb as while we walked along,""Well, you ain't petting no mice while you walk with me....". George is basically Lennie's caretaker but also his friend, he takes Lennie with him wherever he goes and saves him when he gets into trouble, which he does frequently.

2. It means that no matter how much you plan and prepare for something, it can still be messed up by someone else. There is no situation that is 100% under your control. This may foreshadow that George and Lennie's plan to someday "have a little house and and a couple of acres an' a cow and some pigs..." may not come to fruition, it could be ruined through someone else's influence.

3. EVIDENCE "Behind him walked his opposite, a huge man, shapeless of face, with large pale eyes, with wide, sloping shoulders; and he waked heavily, dragging his feet a little, the way a bear drags his paws. His arms did not swing ay his sides, but hung loosely.""Where we goin', George?""They was so little. I'd pet 'em, and pretty soon they bit my fingers and I pinched their heads a little and then they was dead--because they was so little. I wish't we'd get the rabbits pretty soon, George. They ain't so little." -- COMMENTARY: When describing Lennie, words like; huge, large, sloping, heavily, a bear, and paw make him seem superhumanly large. Also, Lennie's actions and speech suggest he's not the shapest tool in the shed. He can't remember very well and he plays in the water of the pool they stop at, he keeps a dead mouse in his pocket so he can stroke it as he and George travel as well. When George asks for the mouse so he can throw it away, Lennie doesn't let him have it and acts like a child would in the same situation. Lennie has the body of the strongest, toughest man, but the mind of a child.

4.DIDLS is used to help you know what is significant in a text so that you know what to annotate and take note of. It also helps you to write well yourself. DIDLS identifies the most important pieces of iformation so that when you come across it while reading you know you need to annotate it.


message 14: by Ilse (new)

Ilse | 8 comments 1.George and lennie are to men who are always in search from a job, they never have a stable job because lennie always gets in truble and george feels the need to take care of him.
Their relationship may be described in friendship but also in a family one because Lennie thinks that George is his friend but George has differents views from lennie, He sees Lennie as a stop from him to accomplish stuff,"i could get along so easy and so nice if i didnt have you on my tail.I could live so easy and maybe have a girl," telling him words to offend and telling how much of mentally challenged person he is.


message 15: by Cole (last edited Sep 07, 2011 01:36PM) (new)

Cole | 12 comments @Jorge #1
I thought this was a really good idea, I also think they balance each other and must be really close friends.


message 16: by Tae (last edited Sep 07, 2011 01:37PM) (new)

Tae | 10 comments 1.Lennie and George are friends but not just a simple friend. George is really sad that he can't get a job because of Lennie who makes an accident during the important situation. However, George can't give up on Lennie because he had promised to Aunt Clara that he will take care of him. We can know George's thought when George tells to Lennie "God you're a lot of trouble," and "I could get along so easy and so nice if I didn't have you on my tail."
2.We can fail even if we have good conditions. George was looking for his job in Weed and failed to find it because of Lennie. It show when George say to Lennie "Well how the hell did she know you jus' wanted to feel her dress? She jerks back and you hold on like it was a mouse. She yells and we got to hide in a irrigation ditch all day with guys looking for us."
3."Guys like us, that work on ranches, are the loneliest guys in the world. They got no family. They got no family. They don't belong no place. They come to a ranch on work up a stake and then they go ina town and blow their stake,and the first thingyou know....look ahead to."
It shows that George need Lennie with him. It tells that Lennie is only his friend. Even though they have different blood relations, they are a still family to each other.
4.DIDLS is a study guide of the story. We can know more thing deeply about the story. It really helps to think and understand the story widely so that we can have a more creativity.


message 17: by Cole (new)

Cole | 12 comments @Tae
I agree with your answers except for number 1, I think George really likes Lennie, he just gets frustrated with him sometimes, and that he helps Lennie by choice, not becasuse he's obligated too.


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Tae | 10 comments @Cole

I definitely agree about your second question. I wrote it same opinion like you.


message 19: by Robert (new)

Robert Ayala | 5 comments Lennie has a young mind eventhough he is a huge ,strong person and he likes to pet things " I could pet it with my thumb while we walked along, said Lennie." he likes soft things like mice and rabbits. George, on the other hand, is a short man and he is smarter than Lennie and he takes care of Lennie and sometimes can't put tup with Lennie be cause of his childish nature but he satys with him.


message 20: by Jorge (new)

Jorge | 13 comments 3. Evidence: "There is a path throught the willows and among the sycamores, a path beaten hard by boys coming down from the ranches to swim in the deep pool, and beaten hard by tramps who come wearily down from the highway in the evening to jungle-up near water" (Steinback 2-3).

Commentary: Imagery- this helps me see the dirt path how it must be worn-out. The fact that it is located where willows and sycamores are makes it seems woodsy in a way. Its also located near water meaning there might be pests such like insects. The path is probably uneven and bumpy for being walked upon by alot of people and its probably neglected and not paved. Steinback sets a visual setting.


message 21: by Marissa (new)

Marissa | 13 comments Mark wrote: "1.The realationship between Lennie and George is like two loving bickering brothers, where George is the more protective and easily annoyed older brother, and Lennie is the nice easily confused you..."

I agree with you on question 1. no matter how mad and annoyed George seems to Lennie, he still loves him no matter what.


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Tae | 10 comments @Monte

I was impressed about your letters beacuse I could think about the new aspect.I think it was pretty good opinions.


message 23: by Cesar (new)

Cesar | 3 comments 1.Lennies and georges relationship is a brotherly relation they got each others backs "i got you to look after me" like and older brother would.
2.in my research i dicovered the meaning of the title which comes from the poem "of a mouse" and in that story the poor mouse dies and the end and that made me foreshadow that there might be and insident. When he mentions " hide in the brush till i come for you" that might be a clue that something happens
3."i was only foolin', george i dont want no ketchup"
it shows that lennie is very child like he likes to fight with george or not fight him but get on his bad side
4.didls. the first d is for diction the i stands for imagery and the second d stands for dialect the l stands for language and s for syntex and using this it helps you understand what the authors key elements of the story are.


message 24: by Javier (new)

Javier | 12 comments 2.- my guess is that sometime during the story the main conflict will be lennie and george vs. curley, and the problem is that curley can get them fired "you gonna have trouble with that curley guy" "Dont make no mistake about that. He's the boss's son" and that just foreshadows that they will get into a conflict


message 25: by Javier (new)

Javier | 12 comments 3.-Q:"I want you to stay with me, lennie. jesus christ somebody'd shoot you for a coyote if you was by yourself" C:Aperantly even tho george cant handle or get get annoyed by lennie he still care for him alot even know how dumb or stupid he is, i mean because honestly i think i would be annoyed, lennie is just like a little kid...


message 26: by Robert (new)

Robert Ayala | 5 comments 2.the words "Of mice and men" are part of a poem by Robert Burnes and the line is The best-laid schemes o' mice an' men
Gang aft agley,
which is translated into The best laid schemes of mice and men Go often askew. This most likely means that George and Lennie's plan may not work although they do have a good chance to make their dreams true.


message 27: by Javier (new)

Javier | 12 comments 4.-DIDLS helps the person using them to understand the story WAY better,not only understand the story but to show what the author put for us out there and maybe we can use that stuff in the future for our writting


message 28: by Edgar (new)

Edgar O. | 6 comments Jorge wrote: "2. The title Of Mice and Men is in reference to Robert Burns' poem. The full phrase is "the best laid plans of mice and men often go awry." Having this in mind the title is implying that the book ..."

Although Lennie is messing everything up and probably will keep messing things up for a while, there is a part where George tells Lennie that he is getting better at remembering. I think he might fix his forgetting problem.


message 29: by Elinni (new)

Elinni | 13 comments 1. Lennie and George's relationship seems like a love hate relationship. George gets really fed up with Lennie's sort term memory and he always seems to have a short temper. Lennie really ticks off George when he just mentioned that he liked his beans with ketchup, "God a'mighty, if I was alone I could live so easy. I could go get a job an' work, an' no trouble. No mess at all, and when the end of the month come I could take my fifty bucks and go into town and get whatever I want. Why, I could stay in a cat house all night. I could eat any place I want, hotel or any place, and order any damn thing I could think of... An' whatta I got, I got you!," George just explodes and unleashes his feelings toward Lennie, showing that he does get very annoyed and frustrated. Later when George cools down he tells Lennie that he didn't mean those things that he said, and that he does want Lennie to stay with him.

2."of mice and men" implies that life can alter at any minute, no matter what plans you have for yourself, they can change. This foreshadows that the plans that George has for himself and Lennie might go in the opposite direction, "Lennie-if you jus' happen to get into trouble liek you always done before, I want you to come right here an' hide in the brush. 'Hide in the brush' said Lennie slowly," George repeats this a few more times in the story making me think that Lennie is going to get into trouble and have to hide in the brush by the river.

3."So you wasn't gonna say a word. You was gonna leave your big flapper shut and leave me do the talkin'," pg. 23
I thought george told Lennie not to say a word?
"His arms gradually bent at the elbows and his hands closed into fists. He stifened and went into a slight crouch." pg. 25
Imagery, you can picture the look the boss's son was giving George and Lennie.
"His glance was at once calculating and pugnacious." pg. 25
Diction, the word choice of calculating and pugnacious describes his glance
"Well next time you answer when you're spoke to." pg.26
The boss's son is very mean and even more intimidating than the boss man.
"well, I tell ya what-Curley says he's keepin' that hand soft for his wife... wait'll you see curley's wife." pg. 27-28
Why does Curley put his hand in vaseline all day? im thinking its something inappropriate, but also i can't tell if he's trying to say that his wife is really pretty or really ugly.

4.DIDLS helps us understand the story better and by writing yourself notes and questions personally helps me really understand the story and what's going on.


message 30: by Rhi (new)

Rhi | 16 comments 3.EVIDENCE: "A tall man stood in the doorway. He held a crushed hat Stetson hat under his arm while he combed his long, black, damp hair straight back. Like the others he wore blue jeans and a short denim jacket. When he had finished combing his hair he moved into the room, and he moved with a majesty only achieved by royalty and master craftsmen."
COMMENTARY: Steinbeck is describing Slim, the "prince of the ranch", the "jerkline skinner". When he uses the phrase "a crushed Stetson hat", it makes me think that Slim is a hardworking man, he wears his hat often. He is a respectable man whom everyone knows. He is good at his job, he is a man of great confidence.


message 31: by Natalia (new)

Natalia | 12 comments 1. Lennie and George have a very strange relationship. Lennie seems to look up to George, as he tries to do everything like him, "Lennie who had been watching imitated George exactly." This is one of the many examples from the text that shows that Lennie mimics George. On the other hand, George seems to have opposite feelings for Lennie. He is very rude and impatient, "God, your a lot of trouble." and "I could get along so easy and so nice if i didnt have you on my tail." These are some of the hurtful things George says to Lennie. Other times we see George stand up for Lennie, "But this Curley better not make no mistakes about Lennie." We could say that the two men are friends that travel together and look after eachother, "Because...because I got you to look out me, and you got me to look after you, and thats why."

2."Of Mice and Men" means that no matter how hard you have planned for something, it ends up failing or going opposite of what you hope for. The title might forshadow misfortune for the two men, who plan to, get some money together and buy some land, a house, and some live stock, "An' live off the fatta the lan'" this is their dream and plan, but it is forshafowed that something might go wrong.

3. "When he had finished combing his hair he moved into the room, and he moved with a majesty only achieved by royalty and master craftsmen." Pg. 33
This is the quote that is desxcribing Slim, the jerkline skinner. It describes him as having a "majesty" which reminds me a little bit of a super hero, who is admired, brave, good looking and everyone's idol. The author's description allows me to see Slim as a lady killer, strong, almost royal like character. These descriptions deal with imagery as well.

4. DIDLS is a way of breaking down texts in many ways. It helps us notice the diction which can tell us a lot about a story. It allows us to take the imagery of the story and analyse it thorougly so that we can see exactly what the author wants us to see, hear, taste, touch, or smell. The details are also what make a story meaningful, by picking out details we make sense of the story. The details make a story interesting. Language are the ways of describing or comparing some item of the story so that we can comprehend what teh author is trying to refer to. syntax is the way the sentences are made up, we cans ee if the author uses a lot of dialogue or we notice patterns in the usage of mechanics in the story. Basically, DIDLS i is a tool that allows us to really understand a text.


message 32: by Javier (new)

Javier | 12 comments Jorge wrote: "1. Lennie isn't a very smart fellow and he probably relies on George for enlightment. Its peculiar how it seems George has a certain authority over Lennie, sort of "like a terrior who doesn't want ..."
i agree with this because it is true, plus i really like how you put your thoughts into this


message 33: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 8 comments Jorge wrote: "1. Lennie isn't a very smart fellow and he probably relies on George for enlightment. Its peculiar how it seems George has a certain authority over Lennie, sort of "like a terrior who doesn't want ..."
I agree with how you feel about Lennie and George's relationship.


message 34: by Robert (new)

Robert Ayala | 5 comments 4. DIDLES helps the reader understand the message of the author in his/her book and it shows you all sorts of theing like details,imagery,Diction,syntax and other parts of the story


message 35: by Elinni (new)

Elinni | 13 comments Rhianna wrote: "1. Their relationship is strange, Lennie copies George's every move, while at the river George "replaced his hat, pushed himself back from the river, drew up his knees and embraced them. Lennie, wh..."

I agree! Lennie somewhat looks up to George and always trys to impress him, he never wants to upset George.


message 36: by Javier (new)

Javier | 12 comments Kelsey wrote: "1. The relationship between George and Lennie is different in many ways because George can be really mean to Lennie, but at the same time he still cares about him. For example George was saying all..."
i can obiously say i agree mostly because this is the way i see this


message 37: by Natalia (new)

Natalia | 12 comments Andrea wrote: "1. George and Lennie have a "love-hate" relationship. During the time that they were on their way to the new ranch they decided to stop for the night. George comes off as very aggressive toward Len..."
Everyone seems to be saying that George and Lennie have a love hate relationship. I agree with taht on George's side, but niot that much with that for Lennie because he seems to really admire George.


message 38: by Jorge (new)

Jorge | 13 comments 4. Using DIDLS (Diction, Imagery, Details, Language, and Structure) gives us a basic understanding of the passage we are reading so that we can correctly question and answer uncertainties of the passage; DIDLS are beneficial to us to keep ideas fresh in our mind so that we may have understandings of the passage (sort of like a conversation leads to an ensight or discovery at the end of it).


message 39: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 8 comments Jorge wrote: "2. The title Of Mice and Men is in reference to Robert Burns' poem. The full phrase is "the best laid plans of mice and men often go awry." Having this in mind the title is implying that the book ..."

Your answer is what i also thought the quote ment to, so i agree with your answer.


message 40: by Rhi (new)

Rhi | 16 comments 4. DIDLS is used to help the person understand the text better and analyze it. When you use DIDLS you break whatever it is down, and analyze everything, the author's diction, imagery, etc.


message 41: by Michael (new)

Michael Rodriguez | 16 comments Maggie wrote: "1.nk klkv"


I TOTALLY agree. lol


message 42: by Elinni (new)

Elinni | 13 comments Ilse wrote: "1.George and lennie are to men who are always in search from a job, they never have a stable job because lennie always gets in truble and george feels the need to take care of him.
Their relations..."


I do agree with this but I also feel that Lennie really does love Lennie he just gets annoyed.


message 43: by Kelsey (new)

Kelsey | 12 comments Ilse wrote: "1.George and lennie are to men who are always in search from a job, they never have a stable job because lennie always gets in truble and george feels the need to take care of him.
Their relations..."


I agree with you, but also George cares about Lennie because he looks after him. He also doesnt want Lennie to leave, when Lennie offers him he can leave anytime.


message 44: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 8 comments Rhianna wrote: "2. The "Men" in of mice and men refers to the common man. "Mice" is a an example of symbolism. Yes, Lennie loves to pet mice, but he accidentally and non-intentionally kills them, he would "pet 'em..."

I didn't think of the title in that way, but it is a very good answer and it will be intersting to see if anything does happen to Lennie.


message 45: by Joel (new)

Joel Rodriguez | 4 comments 1:The relationship that George and Lennie share is like a love/hate relationship. George calls Lennie dumb "Hell of a nice fella, but he ain't bright" but George will still defend him if Curley wants to beat him up for being fat. For example George said, "I seen plenty tough little guys. But this Curley better not make no mistakes about Lennie. Lennie ain't handy, but this Curley punk is gonna get hurt if he messes around with Lennie."
2:"Of Mice and Men" comes from a line in a poem from Robert Burn called "To a Mouse" and the line goes sort of like this " The best laid schemes of mice and men go often askew." which implies that we make plans in life and they don't always go as we want them to so George and Lennie's plans are probably not gonna go the way they planned them. "I got you! You can't keep a job and you lose me every job and I get. Just keep me shovin' all all over the country all the time. And that ain't the worst. You get in trouble. You do bad things and I got to get you out." foreshadows that Lennie is most likely going to get in trouble and ruin their plans.
3:EVIDENCE-"He ain't bright. Hell of a good worker, though. Hell of a fella, but he ain't bright. I've knew him for a long time."
COMMENTARY-Diction is used in my evidence but details is also used at the last sentence. You don't hear another person referecne another person by saying "hell of a fella" or saying "he ain't bright" meaning that he isn't smart but is a hard worker. The detail is "I've knew him for a ling time." which is saying that they haven't just met but have been friends for a long time.
4:DIDLS is helps me understand the book. For example "He ain't bright" is diction which is his choice of words but we would say he isn't smart. DIDLS also helps us annotate or just understand sentences or phrases in the book.


message 46: by Rhi (new)

Rhi | 16 comments Kelsey wrote: "1. The relationship between George and Lennie is different in many ways because George can be really mean to Lennie, but at the same time he still cares about him. For example George was saying all..."

I agree, good point.


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Natalia | 12 comments Javier wrote: "4.-DIDLS helps the person using them to understand the story WAY better,not only understand the story but to show what the author put for us out there and maybe we can use that stuff in the future ..."

This is exactly what I think, it breaks down all the components of a story in a way that is easier to understand.


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Christopher | 8 comments @ Jorge your responce to DIDLS is really good and i totally agree with your answer.


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Maggie | 14 comments 1. Lennie and George's raltionship may be seen as one-sided, but George also wants Lennie there with him. If he didn't, he would have run off or left him alone ages ago. For example, when George gets mad at Lennie says that he "can go off in the hills [and] find a cave" to live in. Geore immediately reacts to this, insisting that he "was jus' foolin'" around and that he "want[ed] [Lennie] to stay with [him]." We can tell easily by this that although George is very harsh with Lennie, he cares about him as he would care for family. He has Lennie and Lennie has him.

2. The title, "Of Mice and Men", holds two meanings that contribute to each other. The "Men" refers to the commom man such as the men at the ranch the story is set in. They have simple dersires, nothing special. To make enough money to get by on. The "Mice" part of the title however, refers to Lennie and George. Lennie loves soft things and he often pets and tries to take care of mice. But, Lennie is much too strong for those delicate creatures. They bite him and that displeases him, so he pinches their heads ever so slightly. But, it's enough to take away their fragile life.
In a similar way, George looks after Lennie and although Lennie is far from fragile physically, he is exceedingly fragile mentally. When Lennie did something to displease the world, they were going to punish him, they were going to do the same thing he had unintentionally done to those mice. George has to kill him, intentionally, to continue protecting that fragile man.

3.QUOTE:
"George looked quickly at Lennie. 'I been mean, ain't I?'
'If you don't want me I can go off in the hills an' find a cave. I can go away any time.'
'No-look! I was jus' foolin', Lennie, 'Cause I want you to stay with me.'"

COMMENTARY:
In a way George reminds me of a friend of mine. He acts harshly sometimes to Lennie, always seeming irritated and always commenting on how easy his life would be without Lennie, however what I like about this quote is that when Lennie offers to leave, George immediately says he was joking and that he wants Lennie to stay with him. It shows that this isn't one-sided friendship, nor a love-hate relationship. George does care about Lennie, he just shows it in a different manner.

4. DIDlS can be used for dialectical journals and embedded quotations. It helps us break down a quote or text and in a simplified version, with everything catagorized we are able to make clearer and more accurate analysis. DIDLS is an efficient way of breaking down a text to analyze.


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Jorge | 13 comments Rhianna wrote: "1. Their relationship is strange, Lennie copies George's every move, while at the river George "replaced his hat, pushed himself back from the river, drew up his knees and embraced them. Lennie, wh..."

I disagree with you to a certain extent. George isn't exactly bossy its just the fact that he has himself to look after as well as Lennie who relies on him for support. If you had someone relying on you for support you would get somewhat fustrating with it.


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