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"A Void" Georges Perec

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Gene (stromangd) | 55 comments Mod
Meeting will be on Sunday, October 9th! (NOT the first weekend of the month, but the second) 6 PM at Lamplighter Roasting Co.


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Gene (stromangd) | 55 comments Mod
Introduction instantly reminded me of Louis-Ferdinand Celine, one of my favorite authors.


message 3: by N (new)

N | 108 comments Mod
still in the mail...


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N | 108 comments Mod
the problem of 'e'
1 - La Disparition actually translates to disappearance, act of disappearing

2 - Jews are referred to as non-goyim on the first page lol


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N | 108 comments Mod
still on page1


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N | 108 comments Mod
The great Malcolm Lowry is recalled on page 17th I believe ...


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N | 108 comments Mod
Aginon had 25 cousins ...


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Sarah | 11 comments HEY! Anyone have a copy I can borrow this week? I'll even pay to "rent" it! Mine still hasn't arrived. I know I dropped the ball on ordering it early enough, but it's been a hellish month and I thought it'd be at the bookstore as my saving grace. Anyway, anyone? I'm desperate to read this!


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Gene (stromangd) | 55 comments Mod
Sarah wrote: "HEY! Anyone have a copy I can borrow this week? I'll even pay to "rent" it! Mine still hasn't arrived. I know I dropped the ball on ordering it early enough, but it's been a hellish month and I tho..."
Sarah, I'm only half way through, but I gave Nabeel your number. He's finished and said he would lend you the book. Hope to see you this Sunday!


message 10: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 11 comments You guys are the best!


message 11: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 11 comments I'm going to start posting today some discussion topics for the meeting tonight.

First up is the number six.

"six-month stint" (128)
"six major points" (115)
"six 'holy' books" (129)
"six grains" (130)
"an agony of six days" (133)
"six thick faggots" (134)(sorry to repeat that word here but it DOES mean wood in this instance)
"not surfacing from it for six days" (134)
"about six occasions" (143)
"six days for it to split up" (144)
"flat six, rond-point" (145)
"six months go by" (145)
"six stairs" (147)
"a child of six" (149)

Okay, so maybe I'm just being dense, but I'm having trouble concretely drawing the connection with six. I understand loosely the connection between six and twenty-six (26 being the alphabet). This might be a stretch, but I think I can see an example of six being used as part of that twenty-six over the span of the two chapters about which I am writing when Perec mentions "twenty springs" and, later, "six springs" (125, 131).

But what about the number six on its own? A, E, I, O, U and sometimes Y: this most likely accounts for the repeated instances of "5 or 6." I think five is the critical number here because we typically think of 5 vowels, and, also, if we are going to think of all potential six, then the absence of E would make it 5.

This leads me to think, though, that 4 would be the number that keeps cropping up. If we're dealing with a void, wouldn't Perec want to keep using 4 to remind us we don't have the typical 5 vowels? Or "4 or 5" instead of "5 or 6" because that math accounts for the voids in either possible number of vowels. These instances of 6 seem just to be used for fun, so I don't know what harm it would do to say 4 instead of 6. Or am I just totally missing what he's doing?

"managing to distinguish four words out of six" (136)


message 12: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 11 comments How do you feel about the constant literary and cultural references? Do they work well? Are they distracting? Frustrating? If you don't recognize the, do they disrupt your reading or interest you?


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Sarah | 11 comments Perec draws a great deal on Poe in A Void. This is certainly to do with the fact that he is parodying the genre that the literary world credits Poe with inventing—detective fiction. For this reason, I really enjoyed the brief appearance made by Dupin, a recurring detective in Poe's works. I also thought that Perec's adaptation of "The Raven" was fantastic. Did this work for you or was it too much?


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Sarah | 11 comments Wikipedia lists the major theme of A Void to be loss. Do you agree with this?

A key passage that speaks to loss is on p.112.


message 15: by Sarah (last edited Oct 09, 2011 02:24PM) (new)

Sarah | 11 comments What do you make of a Zahir? How would you define it?

Key passage = p. 123


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Sarah | 11 comments The sphinx is a fixture in the novel (95, 112, 156-57, etc). Do you know the story of the sphinx? Do you think this story merits such a prominent place for the Sphinx in the novel?


message 17: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 11 comments There are passages where it is clear that Perec is avoiding the letter E.

Ex.

"Can't we stay good chums?" instead of "good friends"

"Hang on a mo" (a character is cut-off, most likely because you can't substitute anything here without using an E) (133).

"unzip a banana" instead of "peel a banana" (113).

Do you think these are fun and minor substitutions or do they weaken the writing?


message 18: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 11 comments What do you make of the Moby Dick chapter (Chapter 8)?


message 19: by N (new)

N | 108 comments Mod
these are some excellent points ... i'll look 'em up.

I'd like to check out the story of the Sphinx which I had no idea what's its about.

I thought skipping letter e in sometimes not so oblique a fashion actually added some entertainment (since I was able to pick'em up). Another example of which is replacing years with springs as in 20 springs ago etc.


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