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My character Dallas fights because he is a conformist to the gang. Dallas is definitely not a conformist to the law but he is a conformist to the gang. I feel that he thinks that to show that he is a hood he HAS to be in a gang. For example, in the book he is actually proud of his criminal record and he wants people to know that he is a greaser. This is basically saying I'm dangerous because I am in a group of delinquents. Another example would be when Dallas robbed the grocery store. He called the gang to come help him because that is what gang members do. If he were "loyal" he would not have called the gang to see him commit suicide but being loyal was not as important to him as wanting to conform to being a greaser.
My character Darry fights out of loyalty for the gang. I know this because in the book when the rumble is starting and no one is throwing the first punch, Darry stands under the street lamp and tells them to fight him. This proves that Darry would take chances to stay loyal to his gang. Another example is when Ponyboy says that Darry could easily become a Soc, but stays loyal to the greasers by staying with them. If Darry was a conformist, he would've put Ponyboy and Soda into the boys home, moved to the west side of town, and hang out with all of the Socs. This proves that Darry is loyal, not a conformist, because he could easily conform and be in another gang.
I'm the second person doing my H.W on Goodreads. My character Dallas Winston sadly died. Oh well. Does this mean I don't have to do anymore work in ELA? Did my character fight for himself because of loyalty to the gang? Or is it because he is a conformist? Dally was a tough mean and rough person in the gang. His first time in jail was when he was eleven years old. I believe Dallas fights for himself because he wants to show that he isn't afraid. For example, he looks for fights anywhere in town. He is showing the gang that he is tough and not to mess with him. He also doesn't show any fear. This shows that Dallas wants to get respect from the gang. Another example, is that Dally for the first time helps someone in the gang. When Johnny and Ponyboy ran away. They went to him and asked for help. He help them by giving some extra clothes, gun, extra cash, and giving them directions to an abandoned church. This shows that Dallas finally thinks about someone besides himself.
My character is Soda and i think that he does fight for him self and the gang. I think this because Soda is always the one who breaks up Pony and Dally from fighting all the time. I think this shows he is fighting for the gang because from keeping Pony and Dally together it keeps the gang together. Another example of Soda fighting for the Gang is by joining in the rumble and helping. This shows that Soda is joining in and helping the gang beat of the Soc's.
I think Soda fights because of loyalty towards the gang. For example, when Pony got into a fight with the Socs when he was walking home from the movies. Soda came and stuck up for Ponyboy. This shows that Soda chose to fight for himself because he was loyal to Ponyboy, and Ponyboy is apart of the gang. Another example, is Soda always fights in the rumbles and finds them fun. He also thinks they are like contests. This shows that by Soda going to the rumbles that he is loyal because he goes to all the rumbles which shows he is loyal because instead he could not fight but he chooses to.
My character Johnny fights because of loyalty for the gang. Johnny fights for the gang because he is part of it and an important piece in the puzzle. For example Johnny has a very bad upbringing due to the violence of his parents so he doesn't have anyone to depend on. This shows that since Johnny's parents have no involvement in his life, the Greasers are there to fill in the spots. Since Johnny can't depend on his parents he depends on the Greasers and the only way to really be part of the gang is by being loyal to them. Another example is when Johnny decides to go back to town after he murdered Bob. This shows that while Johnny could have kept on running he didn't, instead he decided to turn himself in because he didn't want to be any more trouble to the rest of the gang. Dally was getting investigated for the murder, Ponyboy was also wanted for just being Johnny's companion on the night of the murder, Darry and Sodapop were worried sick about where Ponyboy was, and all of the greasers are being in attacked by the rest of the Socs for killing their friend Bob. So by returning to the town he causes all of the burden that he gave to the rest of the gang away and onto himself; thereby making him loyal to the Greasers.
I think that my character, Dallas Winston, fights for himself AND his loyalty to the gang. For example, when Dally (basically) committed suicide, it was because of the fact that Johnny died and since Johnny was the only thing Dally loved in his life, there was no longer a reason for Dally to stay alive. This shows that Dally fought for the loyalty of his gang, even if his loyalty revolved around Johnny. Another example is when Dally popped the wheels of Tim Shepard’s car “just for kicks”. This shows that Dally fights for, not only his gang, but his reputation as a hoodlum as well. Thus, I think that my character, Dallas Winston, fights for himself AND because of his loyalty to the gang.
I think my character, Darry, fights for loalty to the gang. For example, in the story, it is said that Darry could be a Soc, if the greasers (his gang) weren't dragging him down. Which shows that Darry stays loyal to the gang no matter what. Another example is when Darry decides to start the rumble, and take on anyone. People in both the Greasers and the Soc's were hesitant on starting the fight. When nobody from the Greasers wanted to start, Darry started the fight. That shows how loyal he was to the gang, and did whatever he needed to do for the benefit of the gang.
I think my character Johnny is neither a loyal or a conformist. For example, Johnny killed Bod not because that the gang told him to since they dislike/ or hate the Socs. He did it because he was scared and he couldn't let the other Socs drown Pony boy. This shows that Johnny was neither being loyal or being a conformist, he did it because of fear and fear of someone else's life. Another example was that when Dallas told Johnny that the Greasers won the rumble Johnny didn't cheer or said anything about the Greasers being winners. He said that the fighting was useless. This shows that of Johnny was a loyal or a conformist he would have said something about the Greasers being in triumph, that now the Socs have no right to beat the Greasers up and other things like that. On the contrary, he said that all of it was pointless. This all shows why I think my character Johnny is neither a loyal or a conformist.
My character is Johnny, and I think he is loyal. I think he is a conformist. Also, I think Johnny is loyal because he can be true to his friends, and he is a conformist because he fits in with the greaser but he doesn't want to fight and do other stuff like that. Johnny is a good character because he is nice to his friends as well.Johnny is a great character in the book.
My character, Johnny, fights because of loyalty. For Johnny, the gang is basically his family. Since his parents did not care for him, he treats his close friends just like family. For example, Johnny killed Bob, the Soc, to protect Ponyboy who was being drowned. This shows that Johnny is loyal to his friend and is willing to kill someone just to save them. This also shows a lot from Johnny because he was described as the boy who wouldn't even hurt a fly. Another example is when Johnny told Dally and Ponyboy that he decided do turn himself in. This shows that Johnny does not want to bring Ponyboy down since he is innocent as was not involved in the killing. By doing this, it also affects the rest of the gang in a good way. Darry and Sodapop can can rest knowing that Ponyboy is safe. The rest of the greasers is safe from the Socs because they were getting beaten up for killing their friend.
My character is Dallas Winston. He is definitively a person who fights for himself. I mean his whole life has not been for anyone else except for him. I mean only later on in the book do we find that he actually cared about Johnny, but he never did anything else for the gang instead, he caused them more trouble by killing himself. By killing himself he made his whole gang cry and sob for his death. On the page where it describes his death, we see lots of the gang members including Soda start to cry and causes Pony to go unconscious because of the incident. Dally also never cared about what others thought about him. Instead he just kept on causing trouble to prove how tough he was. Dallas wasn't even with the gang much, he just cared about mostly his own survival. This is why i think he is loyal only to himself, because lets face it he only mainly cared about himself except for Johnny which is not the entire gang.
My character is Johnny, he is probably the most loyal character in the book. I think this because he is loyal to Ponyboy. For example, he followed Ponyboy into the fire, and was killed in that Fire! That shows he is so loyal to Ponyboy that he would die for him. Another reason Johnny is loyal is he would do whatever Dally wanted him to. He isn't doing this to conform with the gang but because he idolizes every word Dally says. This shows he is loyal to Dally as well.
I think my character Sodapop fights for the loyalty of the gang. For example, when Ponyboy asked Soda why he dropped out of school, Soda replied, "cuz he's dumb andthe only thing he was passing was auto mechanics and gym. This proves that Soda does not really show any anger and that his life basically revolves around cars and working at the gas station, getting girls and the gang. I think that if it was up to Soda, he probably would rather fix cars with his best friend Steve than go fight a Soc. Another example is how Soda treats Ponyboy. Soda cares a lot about his brother and is really very good to him as well as Ponyboy calls Soda his 'happy-go-lucky' brother who is always grinning. This proves that Soda does not have much of a "rough interior" to himself and if he were to want to fight because he really liked fighting then he would probably have somethimg that is reallly rough to him or a challenging past like Dally. I think that Soda only participates in the rumbles and fighting just because he is a part of the greasers and he does not want to let the gang down. Therefore, that is why I think Soda just fights because of his loyalty to the gang.
Dear ms flagg i am unable to complete this assignment because i have just started my book. I will most likely complete the assignment by friday march 30th.
I think that my character Darry, in the book ( Outsiders ) by S.E. Hinton is a loyal person to the gang because he watches out for the gang. He does what his gang the "Greasers" do such as put grease in their hair, steal from stores and get into fights with the Socs if they try to start a fight. For example when the Socs were going to cut Ponyboys hair Darry was going to beat the Socs up really bad because they were messing with his brother and one of the gang members. This proves that no one should mess with Ponyboy or else Darry is going to beat them up really bad. Another example would be because Darry wanted to get back at the Socs as any other greaser would since their friend Johnny had been hurt and is in critical condition. He would not have been in the church if the Socs had not been bullying Ponyboy which caused Johnny to kill Bob (one of the Socs). So Johnny had to hide in the church with Ponyboy from the cops. Then the fire had started and he had to go into the church to save Ponyboy which had caused a lot of damaged to Johnny's body. If the Socs had left Johnny and Ponyboy alone then they would not have to be near the burning church. This proves that Darry is fighting since Johnny has been in critical condition because of the Socs.
I think thatmy character Two- Bit is in the gang because he is a conformist. I think this because when Pony asked T.B why he liked fighting he just said because everybody else does it. This meakes me think that .B does most things so he go with the crowd and since he liked fighting because everyone else does then he probably is in the gang because everyone he knows is in one. this is why I think that T.B is a conformist because he wants to go along with society and he just wants to be like everybody else.
My character, Johnny, from the realistic fiction novel The Outsiders, fights for himself out of loyalty to the gang. Johnny is not a boy who likes to get together with his friends so that he can be bad. He doesn’t take actions to be like whoever is in power. That is what a conformist would do. Johnny is loyal to his gang, the Greasers. The Greasers are like a loving family to Johnny. If you are a Greaser, you look a certain way. Therefore, groups outside the Greasers, like the Socs, pick on him. For example, after Ponyboy and Johnny talked with Soc girls at a movie, the Soc boys attack Ponyboy and Johnny. Johnny kills Bob out of self-defense, not because is trying to be like a gang leader or because all Greasers are killers. This shows that Johnny is loyal to his family/gang because he chooses to hang out with certain people and look a certain way, not that he is a conformist. Another example is that Johnny does not go hold up people or fight just to get out energy like Dally. This shows that Johnny fights when he has to defend himself, not because he his trying to fit in with his group.

