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message 1: by Danielle The Book Huntress , Jamesian Enthusiast (new)

 Danielle The Book Huntress  (gatadelafuente) | 1347 comments Mod
Which authors do you know about that no one seems to mention? Which books/stories by them would you recommend?


message 2: by Jon Recluse (last edited Mar 28, 2012 06:17PM) (new)

Jon Recluse | 137 comments Charles L. Grant
His novels are wonderful examples of quiet horror. So are his short stories.

Nightmare Seasons
Tales from the Nightside
For Fear of the Night
The Hour of the Oxrun Dead


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James Everington | 53 comments I'd say Robert Aickman. I know there is some love for him out there, but you still can't get most of his 'strange stories' (as he called them) outside of expensive hardbacks so I think he is still somewhat obscure.

The recent three Faber Finds paperback editions are all worth getting for the uninitiated.

Recluse - only read a couple of Grants' in anthologies but he does seem very good. Any in particular of those four you'd recommend to a greenhorn?


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Jon Recluse | 137 comments James- Tales from the Nightside is a solid short story collection.
For Fear of the Night is an excellent introduction to his stand alone novels.


message 5: by Char (new)

Char James, I don't think there is anything out there that Recluse hasn't read.

I'm going to go ahead and mention you, James.
"A Writer's Words" is still one of my favorite short stories.


The Pirate Ghost (Formerly known as the Curmudgeon) (pirateghost) I appriciate this thread, Lady D. I realized that, though I'm open to reading classics, other than Frankenstine, E.A. Poe and Dracula, I'm not very knowledgable of horror written before 1960. The stand, Dean Koontz and things from that time are more familiar to me. It helps getting some good suggestions and, I like the idea of foraging in areas not fully explored by my current generation.

Cool.


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Jon Recluse | 137 comments Charlene wrote: "James, I don't think there is anything out there that Recluse hasn't read.

I'm going to go ahead and mention you, James.
"A Writer's Words" is still one of my favorite short stories."


I haven't read Twilight...... :P

I'll second that!


message 8: by James (new)

James Everington | 53 comments You're too kind, both of you.

To redress the karmic balance I'll toss in another one: T.E.D. Klein

Dark Gods is a great collection of novellas.

Oh and also Iain Rownan's Ice Age is a must have if you read self-published books.


message 9: by Jon Recluse (new)

Jon Recluse | 137 comments I'm a huge T.E.D. Klein fan.
Just reread Dark Gods recently and plan to reread Ceremonies


message 10: by Char (new)

Char Yep. Dark Gods is just another one on Recluse's 'already read' shelf. *Sigh*

I've not read any T.E.D. Klein.


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James Everington | 53 comments I've never read The Ceremonies, although I have read short story The Events At Porloth Farm which I think it was expanded from?

I guess I'll have to get a second-hand copy of The Ceremonies as doesn't look like it will be republished any time soon...


message 12: by Jon Recluse (last edited Mar 29, 2012 01:21PM) (new)

Jon Recluse | 137 comments Yes, it is.

Looks that way.


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Gary Inbinder | 27 comments I'll put in a good word for August Derleth. He's usually associated with Lovecraft, but Derleth was an outstanding classic horror writer in his own right. I read several of his stories years ago--very creepy and well-written.August Derleth


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Amanda M. Lyons (amandamlyons) I love T.E.D. Klein :) Anyone remember Karl Edward Wagner? He did a lot of anthos and some great dark fantasy.


message 15: by Jon Recluse (new)

Jon Recluse | 137 comments I'm a big Wagner fan. In a Lonely Place is one of my favorite books.


message 16: by Char (new)

Char Was Karl Edward Wagner the guy who wrote a few books about a guy named Kane? I remember reading one or two when I was quite a bit younger and I wanted to see if I could find them again. I just can't remember for sure who the author was? A mind is a terrible thing to lose. : )


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Jon Recluse | 137 comments Yes, he is, Charlene.


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Char Thanks!


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Marc Iverson (marc_iverson) | 13 comments Dennis Etchison. A number of his books are available, but they regularly go out of print. He's not hugely esteemed for his novels, but his short stories are sometimes absolutely top-notch. When he's on, he's better than anybody out there. My favorite of his is On the Pike.

His stories tend to be downers. They have an atmosphere thick with dread. A lot of them don't quite click. But those that do, you'll remember.


message 20: by Amanda (new)

Amanda M. Lyons (amandamlyons) Most of what I've read of Wagner was through anthos besides the complete collection of the three major Kane novels I read last year. My library's terrible about keeping older stuff in there sometimes while at others they get some really rare books. Got a library copy of Black Leather Required: Stories once and its got a special place on my shelf. I loved David J Schow's 80s and 90s stuff but haven't tried his noir novels yet.


message 21: by Danielle The Book Huntress , Jamesian Enthusiast (new)

 Danielle The Book Huntress  (gatadelafuente) | 1347 comments Mod
Wagner is exceedingly hard to find! I'm still looking for his Kane series, with no such luck.


message 22: by Jon Recluse (new)

Jon Recluse | 137 comments I have the Arkham House edition as well.

He certainly deserves more respect than he's gotten.
His Shadows series was simply incredible.


message 23: by Jon Recluse (last edited Apr 01, 2012 10:42PM) (new)

Jon Recluse | 137 comments I've got six of the Shadows series, including the first one, plus his After Midnight, Fears, Horrors, Nightmares and Terrors anthologies.
The publishers back then thought that only teenage boys read horror and bet heavily on the movie-style gore trend, so a lot of great authors didn't get any promotion at all.


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James Everington | 53 comments Marc - I've read only a few Dennis Etchison stories, but those I have I thought were really great. The last one was called Tell Me I'll See You Again in the anthology 'A Book If Horrors'

That anthology as a whole is well worth checking out, BTW


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Marc Iverson (marc_iverson) | 13 comments James wrote: "Marc - I've read only a few Dennis Etchison stories, but those I have I thought were really great. The last one was called Tell Me I'll See You Again in the anthology 'A Book If Horrors'

That anth..."


Thanks James, I'll do a search for it. Too bad his novels aren't as well-regarded as his short stories; if they were, he's got the talent to be huge. Even interviews with him are very rewarding.


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James Everington | 53 comments That was mean to be A Book OF Horrors, obviously.

A Book of Horrors by Stephen Jones

INTRODUCTION: WHATEVER HAPPENED TO HORROR? Stephen Jones
THE LITTLE GREEN GOD OF AGONY Stephen King
CHARCLOTH, FIRESTEEL AND FLINT Caitlín R. Kiernan
GHOSTS WITH TEETH Peter Crowther
THE COFFIN-MAKER’S DAUGHTER Angela Slatter
ROOTS AND ALL Brian Hodge
TELL ME I’LL SEE YOU AGAIN Dennis Etchison
THE MUSIC OF BENGT KARLSSON, MURDERER John Ajvide Lindqvist
GETTING IT WRONG Ramsey Campbell
ALICE THROUGH THE PLASTIC SHEET Robert Shearman
THE MAN IN THE DITCH Lisa Tuttle
A CHILD’S PROBLEM Reggie Oliver
SAD, DARK THING Michael Marshall Smith
NEAR ZENNOR Elizabeth Hand
LAST WORDS Richard Christian Matheson


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Marc Iverson (marc_iverson) | 13 comments Kindle edition $20.59, paperback $8.90? What the ...?


message 28: by Jon Recluse (new)

Jon Recluse | 137 comments Typical.


message 29: by Char (new)

Char This book was on sale last week. I got an email from ereaderiq.com. But it only dropped in price by a few dollars, so I didn't get it.
It's one of the most expensive Kindle books I've seen.


message 30: by Jon Recluse (new)

Jon Recluse | 137 comments A Kindle edition shouldn't be more expensive than a mass market paperback. Ever.


message 31: by Char (new)

Char I'm actually willing to pay slightly more for the Kindle ed. just for the convenience and how much easier it is to read.

But not that much more.


message 32: by Jon Recluse (new)

Jon Recluse | 137 comments For me, it depends on the book.

I'm getting KIndle editions of books from the 80s for about $2.99.


message 33: by Marc (new)

Marc Iverson (marc_iverson) | 13 comments A book has to really sell me on its merits for me to pay much these days. It is so easy to get a huge backlog of books for free or very cheap -- and that's if you're even buying. When a book is quite expensive, there's always the library, too.


message 34: by Jon Recluse (new)

Jon Recluse | 137 comments For anyone interested in Charles L. Grant

http://www.amazon.com/The-Curse-ebook...


message 35: by Danielle The Book Huntress , Jamesian Enthusiast (new)

 Danielle The Book Huntress  (gatadelafuente) | 1347 comments Mod
Ooh, thanks, Recluse!


message 36: by Jon Recluse (new)

Jon Recluse | 137 comments You're welcome!

I check certain publishers every week for new releases.


message 37: by Marc (new)

Marc Iverson (marc_iverson) | 13 comments Jodi wrote: "Marc wrote: "Dennis Etchison. A number of his books are available, but they regularly go out of print. He's not hugely esteemed for his novels, but his short stories are sometimes absolutely top-..."

That sounds like a great experience!


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Marc Iverson (marc_iverson) | 13 comments Recluse wrote: "For anyone interested in Charles L. Grant

http://www.amazon.com/The-Curse-ebook..."


Nice. Have you read this one?

It would be great if all his stuff came back in e-book form and at a great price.


message 39: by Jon Recluse (new)

Jon Recluse | 137 comments Actually, no.

And I never expected to get the chance.

Crossroad Press has been re-releasing a lot of books from the late 70s and 80s in ebook form for $2.99.
This is their first Grant book.
Necon Ebooks has been slowly re-releasing his novella collections. A little more expensive, $4.99, but still a bargain.


message 40: by Marc (new)

Marc Iverson (marc_iverson) | 13 comments I hope they get around to Michael McDowell. His Blackwater series was super highly regarded in the 80's, but now he has almost fallen off the map completely.

This stuff, when it's good, is timeless, so I'd love for all the old great classics to come back, especially if it's not as the world's sloppiest screwball OCR scans.


message 41: by Jon Recluse (new)

Jon Recluse | 137 comments I'll second that!


message 42: by Jon Recluse (new)

Jon Recluse | 137 comments I have The Pet, and Shadows 1 and 5 in the original paperbacks.

His Oxrun Station books are hard to find.

And I don't trust second party book sellers thru Amazon.


message 44: by Danielle The Book Huntress , Jamesian Enthusiast (new)

 Danielle The Book Huntress  (gatadelafuente) | 1347 comments Mod
I think it's great that everyone is recommending modern authors, but since this is a classic horror group, can you think of some pre-1960 authors?


message 45: by Jon Recluse (new)

Jon Recluse | 137 comments Sorry, Lady Danielle!

G.K. Chesterton: The Man Who Was Thursday
Guy Endore: The Werewolf of Paris
Cornell Woolrich: Night Has A Thousand Eyes
Walter Van Tilburg Clark: Track of the Cat
Joseph Payne Brennan: Nine Horrors and a Dream
Jack Williamson: Darker Than You Think
Mervyn Peake: Gormenghast
Robert Bloch: The Opener of the Way
Abraham Merritt: Creep, Shadow

Better?


message 46: by Danielle The Book Huntress , Jamesian Enthusiast (last edited Apr 04, 2012 10:02PM) (new)

 Danielle The Book Huntress  (gatadelafuente) | 1347 comments Mod
No need to be sorry. I just wanted to get some older stuff in there. I admit it's a bit selfish, since I am always on the lookout for classic horror. :)

And thanks! Adding to the list the ones I don't have already!


message 47: by Jon Recluse (new)

Jon Recluse | 137 comments Some of those are not traditional horror, but horror just the same, to my thinking.

Do you have Charles Maturin's Melmoth the Wanderer and James Hogg's The Private Memoirs and Confessions of a Justified Sinner on your list? They are personal favorites of mine.


message 48: by Kip (new)

Kip (pettydemon) | 1 comments I'd vote for Adrian Ross The Hole of the Pit as one of the better unsung horror tales of yesteryear...


message 49: by Char (new)

Char I have Melmoth the Wanderer. I wondered where I had got it from! It must've been a recommendation from Recluse. : )


message 50: by James (new)

James Everington | 53 comments Robert Aickman would be one of my favourite pre-60s writers. He's anthologised quite a bit, so not exactly obscure. But hasn't has the recognition he deserves.


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