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message 1: by Booknut, Head Moderator (new)

Booknut 101 (booknut101) | 4592 comments Mod
The girls who refuse to stop fighting for what they know is right! The girls who do not need a man to be truly independent and happy!

My favourite three:

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Tessa Gray from Infernal Devices

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Tris/Beatrice from Divergent

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Katniss from the Hunger Games

What do you think qualifies a heroine to be a HAB? And who else would you nominate?


message 2: by Claire (new)

Claire (claireplusone) | 676 comments I think Rose Hathaway from Vampire Academy would be a good one :)


message 3: by Sue (new)

Sue (youvebeensued) Rose Hathaway from Vampire Academy...she's the first one that comes to my mind. Then Grace from the Dark Divine series. Elena of Vampire Diaries somewhat fills a bit of space. Hermione Granger, one of the most notable.


message 4: by Zohal, Co-Moderator (new)

Zohal (bookworm122) | 1418 comments Mod
Booknut wrote: "The girls who refuse to stop fighting for what they know is right! The girls who do not need a man to be truly independent and happy!

My favourite three:


Tessa Gray from Infernal Devices
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Katniss is a definite yes


message 5: by Booknut, Head Moderator (new)

Booknut 101 (booknut101) | 4592 comments Mod
Louise wrote: "Hermoine Granger always seems to get left out. I thought that Minerva McGonagall seemed to be a heroine with a backbone, she kicked Snapes and the crazy brother and sister's but in Harry Potter and..."


Minerva McGonagall is a fine candidate indeed! :D


Rue~alwaysa1directioner~ (Ruealwaysa1directioner) | 104 comments Same as you Booknut!!!


message 7: by Claire (new)

Claire (claireplusone) | 676 comments Mimi from the Blue Bloods series :D


message 8: by Emily V (new)

Emily V (xemilyx) | 10 comments Tessa, Rose and Katniss I think


message 9: by Booknut, Head Moderator (new)

Booknut 101 (booknut101) | 4592 comments Mod
Speaking of backbone, I love Jennifer Lawrence's interview questionnaire thing below!:D

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message 10: by Claire (new)

Claire (claireplusone) | 676 comments Hahaha guess she didn't read the book :P


message 11: by Booknut, Head Moderator (new)

Booknut 101 (booknut101) | 4592 comments Mod
Claire wrote: "Hahaha guess she didn't read the book :P"

*smiles*


message 12: by Booknut, Head Moderator (new)

Booknut 101 (booknut101) | 4592 comments Mod
Louise wrote: "lol, the interview lady looks like the one who Gordon Ramsay insulted because she asked a personal question. Poor Jennifer Lawrence."

Nice referencing!


message 13: by Sue (new)

Sue (youvebeensued) Claire wrote: "Mimi from the Blue Bloods series :D"

I so damn agree with you. She's literally awesome! :D


message 14: by Lucy Qhuay (last edited Jun 28, 2012 12:39PM) (new)

Lucy Qhuay Best heroines ever:
- Éowyn - The Lord Of The Rings
- Hermione Granger - Harry Potter
- Clary Morgenstern - The Mortal Instruments series
- Beatrice/Tris Prior - Divergent Trilogy
- Meghan Chase - The Iron Fey series
- Antanasia Dragomir/Vladescu - Jessica's Guide To Dating On The Dark Side & Jessica Rules The Dark Side
- Gabriella Betarrini/Forelli - The River Of Time series
- Katherine Winters - The Goddess Test series


message 15: by Lucy Qhuay (new)

Lucy Qhuay Lucinda wrote: "Lucy wrote: "Best heroines ever:
- Éowyn - The Lord Of The Rings
- Hermione Granger - Harry Potter
- Clary Morgenstern - The Mortal Instruments series
- Antanasia Dragomir/Vladescu - Jessica's..."


That's alright Lucinda. Éowyn forgives you. :)
And yes, she is amazing. Usually people prefer Arwen but I just love Éowyn.
She suffered so much but was always so strong. She always fought for what she thought was right and we can't forget that this was in a time when men thought women could not fight.
And she was really fierce and incredible when she killed the Witch King of Angmar, Sauron's most lethal minion. The one people thought no living being could destroy. Amazing!!


message 16: by Booknut, Head Moderator (new)

Booknut 101 (booknut101) | 4592 comments Mod
Lucy wrote: "Lucinda wrote: "Lucy wrote: "Best heroines ever:
- Éowyn - The Lord Of The Rings
- Hermione Granger - Harry Potter
- Clary Morgenstern - The Mortal Instruments series
- Antanasia Dragomir/Vladescu..."


Totally! Éowyn is an amazing character, though many of my friends and family will adamantly argue against her being of the same caliber as Arwen. I agree with you in the respect that it was basically a man's world - the fact she achieves the feats and freedom she does is incredible! When she killed the Witch King I was so impressed by her spirit and bravery. She proved that a woman's heart and determination is equal to, or even greater sometimes, than a man's.


message 17: by Becca (new)

Becca (becca_h) My favorite strong heroines so far (I'm still discovering new ones almost every single day book):

Top// Meghan Chase (Iron Fey)
1. Rose Hathaway (Vampire Academy)
2. Cassia Reyes (Matched)
3. Katniss Everdeen
4. Winter (Winter Saga)


message 18: by Booknut, Head Moderator (new)

Booknut 101 (booknut101) | 4592 comments Mod
Becca wrote: "My favorite strong heroines so far (I'm still discovering new ones almost every single day book):

Top// Meghan Chase (Iron Fey)
1. Rose Hathaway (Vampire Academy)
2. Cassia Reyes (Matched)
3. Kat..."


Cassia is another one! Great list Becca!!


message 19: by Sue (new)

Sue (youvebeensued) Becca wrote: "My favorite strong heroines so far (I'm still discovering new ones almost every single day book):

Top// Meghan Chase (Iron Fey)
1. Rose Hathaway (Vampire Academy)
2. Cassia Reyes (Matched)
3. Kat..."


That's a totally WOW list! ;)


message 20: by Lucy Qhuay (new)

Lucy Qhuay Booknut wrote: "Lucy wrote: "Lucinda wrote: "Lucy wrote: "Best heroines ever:
- Éowyn - The Lord Of The Rings
- Hermione Granger - Harry Potter
- Clary Morgenstern - The Mortal Instruments series
- Antanasia Dra..."


Yes, I know that most of the people say that Arwen is a better heroine. I don't agree with them.
What has Arwen done?? I just saw her trying to strengthen Aragorn and saying some prophecy-like stuff.
Éowyn, like you said, fought bravely in what can be considered a man's world.
She killed Sauron's most powerful servant, the one people said no living being could kill! She fought for Rohan, for Gondor, for friendship, for love, for justice, for freedom...
Indeed - she proved that a woman's heart and determination can be stronger than a man's physical strength and other things...


message 21: by Lucy Qhuay (new)

Lucy Qhuay Lucinda wrote: "Booknut wrote: "Lucy wrote: "Lucinda wrote: "Lucy wrote: "Best heroines ever:
- Éowyn - The Lord Of The Rings
- Hermione Granger - Harry Potter
- Clary Morgenstern - The Mortal Instruments ser..."


Dear Lucinda,
I agree that Arwen showed a noble nature by giving up her own immortality for Aragorn. But I think that if ones loves so much another, every possible sacrifice is a small price to pay.
She said herself that she preferred to spend one lifetime with Aragorn than all the ages of the world alone. So, in my point, giving up her immortality was something that she gladly did.
Arwen was also a strong woman, I'm not saying the contrary. But people tend to forget Éowyn, which I think is extremely unfair.
Éowyn wasn't immortal so she couldn't give up immortality but she risked her own life everytime.
Arwen could die, in the end, because her fate was tied to the ring but Éowyn could die at any moment.
What matters is that, as a woman in a world of men, she stood up and faced her fears, fighting alongside men for her king, Théoden, her land, Rohan, for Gondor and for the freedom of the people of all Middle Earth.
She succeed. She did great things.
She didn't just show physical strength. The White Lady proved to be, indeed, one of the noblest people of all.
Lucy
XXO


message 22: by Lucy Qhuay (last edited Jun 21, 2012 05:27PM) (new)

Lucy Qhuay Louise wrote: "Lucy wrote: "Best heroines ever:
- Éowyn - The Lord Of The Rings
- Hermione Granger - Harry Potter
- Clary Morgenstern - The Mortal Instruments series
- Antanasia Dragomir/Vladescu - Jessica's Gui..."


Oh, I loved it.
I love Henry.
However, I was a little angry with his behavious. He would spare a lot of suffering if he asked Kate directly if she had cheated on him with James during the Summer, if she loved him and if she wanted to stay with him for real.


message 23: by Becca (new)

Becca (becca_h) Booknut101 & Rimpy: thnx :) ur lists rock too.


message 24: by Booknut, Head Moderator (new)

Booknut 101 (booknut101) | 4592 comments Mod
Lucy wrote: "Louise wrote: "Lucy wrote: "Best heroines ever:
- Éowyn - The Lord Of The Rings
- Hermione Granger - Harry Potter
- Clary Morgenstern - The Mortal Instruments series
- Antanasia Dragomir/Vladescu ..."


I know!! Some guy characters need to OPEN THEIR MOUTHS AND TALK instead of brooding and trying to read between the lines. You have a mouth, dude - ask her!!


message 25: by Kristi (new)

Kristi (derek1) | 46 comments Claire Danvers
Chloe Saunders
Eve Rosser
Rose Hathaway


message 26: by E.E. (new)

E.E. (latinlovertothee) | 28 comments Am I the only one has EVER read the Hidden Hand by Eden Southworth? It is definitely worth a read.
Anyway, they are as follows:
Capitola Black- the Hidden Hand
Jane Eyre (do I really need to explain which book she comes from?)
Hester Prynne- The Scarlet Letter
Eowyn- Lord of the Rings
Janie Crawford- Their Eyes Were Watching God
It is sort of a lot, but I couldn't pick!


message 27: by Shatha (new)

Shatha (idrinktoomuchtea) | 32 comments Katniss Everdeen, Hermione Granger, Jane Eyre, Elizabeth Bennett, Anne Shirley and Josephine March.
BTW I love your lists guys!But someone must represent the classics.


message 28: by Booknut, Head Moderator (new)

Booknut 101 (booknut101) | 4592 comments Mod
Shatha wrote: "Katniss Everdeen, Hermione Granger, Jane Eyre, Elizabeth Bennett, Anne Shirley and Josephine March.
BTW I love your lists guys!But someone must represent the classics."


Oh, of course!! And I agree with Jane, Anne, Josephine and Elizabeth - I LOVE Anne of Green Gables, which is one of my favourite series' and Gilbert *sighs* - what is not to love about Gilbert, right?! Classics are brilliant and should definitely be on the list!


message 29: by Olivia (new)

Olivia (olivia1395) | 1948 comments Katniss
Hermionie
Elizabeth Bennett
Tessa Gray
Katsa
(there's more I just can't remember them at the moment!)


message 30: by Lucy Qhuay (new)

Lucy Qhuay Booknut wrote: "Lucy wrote: "Louise wrote: "Lucy wrote: "Best heroines ever:
- Éowyn - The Lord Of The Rings
- Hermione Granger - Harry Potter
- Clary Morgenstern - The Mortal Instruments series
- Antanasia Drag..."


Totally!
I get so frustrated when people suffer horribly for nothing when a simple question could spare all of that!


message 31: by Olivia (new)

Olivia (olivia1395) | 1948 comments Lucy wrote: "Booknut wrote: "Lucy wrote: "Louise wrote: "Lucy wrote: "Best heroines ever:
- Éowyn - The Lord Of The Rings
- Hermione Granger - Harry Potter
- Clary Morgenstern - The Mortal Instruments series
..."

Exactly!!


message 32: by Olivia (new)

Olivia (olivia1395) | 1948 comments Booknut wrote: "Shatha wrote: "Katniss Everdeen, Hermione Granger, Jane Eyre, Elizabeth Bennett, Anne Shirley and Josephine March.
BTW I love your lists guys!But someone must represent the classics."

Oh, of cours..."

Classics are amazing:)


message 33: by Aurora, Co-Moderator (last edited Jun 23, 2012 04:23AM) (new)

Aurora | 994 comments Mod
Maximum Ride - extreme backbone! Number 1 on my list!
Katniss Everdeen - yah
Valkyrie Cain
Katy - the girl from 'Malice' By Chris Wooding
Winter - from Conspiracy 365
Jordan - from Phoenix Files


message 34: by Zohal, Co-Moderator (new)

Zohal (bookworm122) | 1418 comments Mod
I would say

Valkryie Cain
Tanith Low
Katy (Malice)
Hermione Granger


message 35: by Olivia (new)

Olivia (olivia1395) | 1948 comments Aurora wrote: "Maximum Ride - extreme backbone! Number 1 on my list!
Katniss Everdeen - yah
Valkyrie Cain
Katy - the girl from 'Malice' By Chris Wooding
Winter - from Conspiracy 365"


Definitely Max!


message 36: by E.E.S. (new)

E.E.S. (classicsvariety) | 48 comments E.E. wrote: "Am I the only one has EVER read the Hidden Hand by Eden Southworth? It is definitely worth a read.
Anyway, they are as follows:
Capitola Black- the Hidden Hand
Jane Eyre (do I really need to explai..."


Oh, I'd add Elizabeth Bennet. I'm only halfway through Pride and Prejudice, but she is already an awesome character. And yes, I have read the Hidden Hand.


message 37: by Olivia (new)

Olivia (olivia1395) | 1948 comments E.E.S. wrote: "E.E. wrote: "Am I the only one has EVER read the Hidden Hand by Eden Southworth? It is definitely worth a read.
Anyway, they are as follows:
Capitola Black- the Hidden Hand
Jane Eyre (do I really n..."


Elizabeth Bennet is amazing:)


message 38: by Chelsea (new)

Chelsea (theycallmebookworm) | 21 comments Katsa <3
Fire <3
Bitterblue <3
- Kristin Cashore :D


message 39: by Olivia (new)

Olivia (olivia1395) | 1948 comments Chelsea wrote: "Katsa <3
Fire <3
Bitterblue <3
- Kristin Cashore :D"


I agree:)


message 40: by Anna (new)

Anna Wood-Gaines (annabanana13) | 1674 comments Booknut wrote: "The girls who refuse to stop fighting for what they know is right! The girls who do not need a man to be truly independent and happy!

My favourite three:




Tessa Gray from Infernal Devices


..."


Definitely some of my favs!


message 41: by Anna (new)

Anna Wood-Gaines (annabanana13) | 1674 comments Louise wrote: "Hermoine Granger always seems to get left out. I thought that Minerva McGonagall seemed to be a heroine with a backbone, she kicked Snapes and the crazy brother and sister's but in Harry Potter and..."

Definitely!! I almost always forget McGonagall but she is a true HAB!


message 42: by Anna (last edited Aug 27, 2012 11:57PM) (new)

Anna Wood-Gaines (annabanana13) | 1674 comments Booknut wrote: "Speaking of backbone, I love Jennifer Lawrence's interview questionnaire thing below!:D







"


*falls out of chair laughing* This perfect!!!! Poor Jennifer!

*cough cough* 74th & 75th


message 43: by Anna (new)

Anna Wood-Gaines (annabanana13) | 1674 comments Tessa Gray from Infernal Devices
Rose Hathaway from Vampire Academy
Hermione Granger from HP
Minerva McGonagall frop HP
Tris/Beatrice from Divergent
Katniss Everdeen from Hunger Games
Isabelle Lightwood from Mortal Instruments
Meghan Chase from Iron Fey
Maximum Ride from well Maximum Ride ;)

& more! I just can't think of them!


message 44: by Olivia (new)

Olivia (olivia1395) | 1948 comments Anna wrote: "Louise wrote: "Hermoine Granger always seems to get left out. I thought that Minerva McGonagall seemed to be a heroine with a backbone, she kicked Snapes and the crazy brother and sister's but in H..."

Haha McGonagall is definitely a HAB:)


message 45: by Olivia (new)

Olivia (olivia1395) | 1948 comments Anna wrote: "Tessa Gray from Infernal Devices
Rose Hathaway from Vampire Academy
Hermione Granger from HP
Minerva McGonagall frop HP
Tris/Beatrice from Divergent
Katniss Everdeen from Hunger Games
Isabelle Lig..."


I agree:) I don't know 2 people on there but I totally agree with all the others!


message 46: by Emma (new)

Emma (emmathelemon) Flavia Gemina from 'The Roman Mysteries' is pretty epic! Has anyone else read those?


message 47: by [deleted user] (new)

I have! I love her, and I really like Nubia too. She has a sort of calming presence that is really cool.


message 48: by Anna (new)

Anna Wood-Gaines (annabanana13) | 1674 comments Olivia wrote: "Anna wrote: "Tessa Gray from Infernal Devices
Rose Hathaway from Vampire Academy
Hermione Granger from HP
Minerva McGonagall frop HP
Tris/Beatrice from Divergent
Katniss Everdeen from Hunger Games..."


They pretty darn amazing :) Which two don't you know?


message 49: by Olivia (new)

Olivia (olivia1395) | 1948 comments Anna wrote: "Olivia wrote: "Anna wrote: "Tessa Gray from Infernal Devices
Rose Hathaway from Vampire Academy
Hermione Granger from HP
Minerva McGonagall frop HP
Tris/Beatrice from Divergent
Katniss Everdeen fr..."


Rose from Vampire Academy and Tris from Divergent, but I plan to read both of those:)


message 50: by Anna (new)

Anna Wood-Gaines (annabanana13) | 1674 comments Olivia wrote: "Anna wrote: "Olivia wrote: "Anna wrote: "Tessa Gray from Infernal Devices
Rose Hathaway from Vampire Academy
Hermione Granger from HP
Minerva McGonagall frop HP
Tris/Beatrice from Divergent
Katnis..."


Those are both amazing books! I highly recommend them!!


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