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Would Sirius Black have died if he had treated Kreacher with kindness? I recall from the books that Dumbledore tells Harry that Kreacher had visited Bellatrix and Narcissa, giving them vital information about the Order. Do you think Sirius' death could have been prevented? Did he bring it upon himself?


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Lyss (lyss4music) | 1370 comments Mod
Possibly, but I also think it was Harry's fault for taking Voldy's bait...as hard as it was, he should have made 100% Sirius was alright.


Bad Wolf (secretagentninja) Gee, Harry, sure good you remembered the present Sirius gave you to COMMUNICATE with him.


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Lyss (lyss4music) | 1370 comments Mod
Yeah!!


Bad Wolf (secretagentninja) I got so mad when he forgot that! I mean, come on!


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I KNOW! WHY DID HE HAVE TO DIE!! I think it could have been prevented. if he hadnt taken Voldy moldys bait and tried CHECKING the MIRROR that SIRUIS GAVE HIM!!!! maybe he would have lived.


oh, anyone know what the flash of siruis' eye in the broken piece of mirror was?


Bad Wolf (secretagentninja) Um, Aberforth? It wasn't Sirius's eye. His eyes are gray. I think. But not blue.


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Lyss (lyss4music) | 1370 comments Mod
Know hwta?? We're all debating things that Harry and Voldy and Sirius himself did,to lead up to his death........but really, the solution is simple...

J.K Rowling could have never wrote Sirius' death in the first place!!!!!


Bad Wolf (secretagentninja) I know! JK Rowling is soo... If she didnt write the series, I wouldnt like her.


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XD i agree with you there Alyssa

eh? Aberforth? i think im missing something


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When Harry saw the blue eye reflected in the two-way mirror, he was serif Aberforth's eye. Harry mistook it for Dumbledore's eye, because the two brothers share similarities, but discovers the truth when he meets Aberforth in the Hog's Head during Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows.


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...but i thought the mirror was for him and siruis? i am cunfuzzled


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When Sirius died, Mundungus Fletcher went through his stuff, turning around to sell it. One of the things Dung discovered was Sirius' mirror, which he gave to Aberforth.


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oh! i totally missed that part when i read the books!


Bad Wolf (secretagentninja) EPIC FAILURE!


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Lyss (lyss4music) | 1370 comments Mod
Lol, yeah pretty Epic. Ugh, Dung irritated me!

Why couldn't he hace died instead of Sirius?!


Bad Wolf (secretagentninja) Because J.K. Rowling wants Harry Potter to be in complete, utter, sadness while he attempts to save the wizarding world. I agree with this ending!http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=...


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Lyss (lyss4music) | 1370 comments Mod
Haha, yeah, apparently...sigh...what can you do?


Bad Wolf (secretagentninja) Get Voldemort. LOL


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Lyss (lyss4music) | 1370 comments Mod
Lol, who has seen "Potterpals - The mysterious Ticking Noise" ???? Its JILARIOUS!


"Muwahahahah!" *Tick. Tick. Tick. Tick* "Voldemort, Voldemort, Oooh, Voldy Voldy Voldy Voldemort!"


Bad Wolf (secretagentninja) Alyssa wrote: "Lol, who has seen "Potterpals - The mysterious Ticking Noise" ???? Its JILARIOUS!


"Muwahahahah!" *Tick. Tick. Tick. Tick* "Voldemort, Voldemort, Oooh, Voldy Voldy Voldy Voldemort!""


I love PPP! Wizard swears and the vortex are my favs.


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no because Kreacher's attitude towards Sirius was already sour, he only really liked Sirius's mother. and Sirius was letting "Mudbloods and traitors" into the house. he has always hated Sirius.

if it's Kreacher's fault Sirius is dead, why would Harry keep him? i know he was left to Harry, and he knew too much, but i would've done something, anything to get rid of Kreacher! (sirius is my fav character. i still cry when he dies D:)


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Ella Risnes | 6 comments If you think about it if Harry just learned occumuely (sorry if I spelled it wrong) Voldemort wouldn't have gave him the image and Sirius would have lived. In some respects it's Harry's fault!!:(


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Bad Wolf wrote: "Because J.K. Rowling wants Harry Potter to be in complete, utter, sadness while he attempts to save the wizarding world. I agree with this ending!http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=......"

XD haha omg yes! I agree with that ending lol


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